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Did Nebraska Get Screwed ? (NCAA Big XII )
December 06 2009 | self

Posted on 12/06/2009 3:35:50 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

Was it me or did the refs give Texas a second chance after Texas QB Colt McCoy ran a play trailing by two points with only six seconds left, rolled out and threw the ball away and out of bounds as the clock ticked down to 0.00 and then the referee`s whistle blew.

Texas coach Mack Brown demanded an extra second to kick a field goal and the officials obliged him. Texas kicked the field goal and won the game.

I only saw the reply once with audio and clearly heard the official`s whistle blow after the clock showed 0.00 on the clock.

Nebraska got screwed.


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1 posted on 12/06/2009 3:35:50 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

The only one to get screwed was TCU.


2 posted on 12/06/2009 3:38:02 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Para-Ord.45

It looked like the ball was out of bounds with 1 second left but I was rooting for Nebraska too.


3 posted on 12/06/2009 3:38:12 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

no dog in the hunt for me

good call.. ball hit something out of bounds and the clock wasn’t at zero


4 posted on 12/06/2009 3:38:14 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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The replay clearly showed the ball hit a railing out of bounds with 00:01 seconds left. This was a correct call. Sorry.


5 posted on 12/06/2009 3:39:29 PM PST by falcon1966
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To: Para-Ord.45
That's the way it looked to me too, but I am biased against Texas.
6 posted on 12/06/2009 3:40:15 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Para-Ord.45

YEP, NEBRASKA GOT TOOLED

LSU fan here and I thought Les Miles was bad at using the clock but ole Mack Brown takes the cake.


7 posted on 12/06/2009 3:40:20 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: Para-Ord.45

The referees have the final say! That’s why we have them!


8 posted on 12/06/2009 3:40:51 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Para-Ord.45

Makes no difference when they blew the whistle. Clock stoppage is reviewable, and on review, the clock still said 1 second when the ball hit the ground. Blowing the whistle late was an error, and the replay corrected the error.

If the ball had been thrown higher or further, they would have lost.


9 posted on 12/06/2009 3:41:03 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
Not what we saw: Texas shouldn't have gotten a 'second' chance Here's exactly what happened: There were 24 incomplete passes in the Texas-Nebraska game. On every one of them — every single one (I know, I went back and checked in slow motion) — the game clock ticked off that second, and sometimes another. That's how it always works in this and every other game: There's a bit of a human element (the eye sending the message to the brain, the brain relaying it to the finger on the clock button, the electronic impulses prompting the clock to stop). And so, when Colt McCoy inexplicably decided to run a play with six seconds remaining instead of calling timeout or, well, showing any sense of urgency, he rolled out and threw the ball away, way out of bounds, as the clock ticked down to 0:00. http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10481260/Texas-shouldn't-have-gotten-a-'second'-chance . .
10 posted on 12/06/2009 3:41:07 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: falcon1966

Texas got the win fair and square but after that performance it shouldn’t be them playing for the national championship.


11 posted on 12/06/2009 3:41:43 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Para-Ord.45

The ball hit the turf with 1 second on the clock but usually takes the guys who run the clock a couple seconds to hit the stop button. It was a dumb decision on Texas’ part to make it so close but it was the correct call.


12 posted on 12/06/2009 3:42:18 PM PST by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: Para-Ord.45
When I looked at the replay, I saw it as the correct call.

Didn't like it, me being in Nebraska and all.

13 posted on 12/06/2009 3:43:48 PM PST by MountainDad
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To: Para-Ord.45

Prior to the one second incident, there were two pass interference calls, for non-catchable balls.

I have a conspiracy theory of sorts. At least twice in my memory, the Big 12 has shot itself in the foot and destroyed a Big 12 team’s BCS Championship hopes, through an upset in the Big 12 game. The officials are Big 12 officials. They support their league. They may even have a vested interest in the Big 12’s exposure/success. It seems intuitive that they would prefer Texas win.

Besides that, the entire NCAA, BCS, bowl game host cities, etc. had a vested interest in preventing ‘BCS Chaos’. I can find alot of reasons why alot of people would prefer Texas win.

But, good grief, Nebraska was terrible. The Big 12 North was nothing to write home about this year. Come to think of it, neither was the Big 12 South.

I’m a ‘Bama fan; and, I was actually worried they might have to play Cincinnati, a team better than Texas IMHO.


14 posted on 12/06/2009 3:43:49 PM PST by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: perez24

Why didn’t Nebraska even try to get one more first down before they kicked the go-ahead FG.

And if they don’t kick the ensuing KO out of bounds, they had a much better chance to win. Nebraska screwed themselves.


15 posted on 12/06/2009 3:44:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Para-Ord.45

Keep the ball in bounds, Huskers!


16 posted on 12/06/2009 3:46:14 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Para-Ord.45

If Nebraska hadn’t kicked the ball out of bounds it wouldn’t have mattered.


17 posted on 12/06/2009 3:46:34 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

UT has secured the right to get free football lessons at Pasadena.


18 posted on 12/06/2009 3:47:05 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Replays showed the ball hit the ground with 1 second left on the clock. Nebraska screwed itself by kicking off out of bounds a couople plays before that, giving Texas the ball at their own 40 yard line. To bad; I was pulling for Nebraska.


19 posted on 12/06/2009 3:47:53 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I blame Bush, Texas and Halliburton ; connect the dots .


20 posted on 12/06/2009 3:49:16 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The ball went out of bounds with one second left.
The clock stops immediately when the play is out of bounds.
Nobody got screwed. I am a fan of neither team, being from Missouri.


21 posted on 12/06/2009 3:50:26 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Para-Ord.45

Texas got a big break. The clock was 00....even if the ball hit out of bounds with 01 left. Football, unlike basketball, does not have clocks that go 1/10 of a second

In the 1998 Rose Bowl....Washington State spiked the ball, and the clock had two seconds left when they spiked the ball to stop the clock....this was clear on the replay. Instead, the clock ran down to zero...and Michigan won, with Wash State not getting an additional play

In football....the clock is stopped when the referee blows a play dead....not at the moment of a dead ball (which basketball does). The ref did not blow the play dead until the clock ran out

Nebraska got jobbed. This is not basketball....where Texas would have had tenths of a second left


22 posted on 12/06/2009 3:52:19 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Al Gore is neither a scientist (Global Warming Fraud) nor an economist (Free Trade, NAFTA))
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To: Para-Ord.45

“I only saw the reply once with audio and clearly heard the official`s whistle blow after the clock showed 0.00 on the clock.”

Thanks for that. That was a heart breaker for Nebraska.

I watched the game on TY, hoping for a big upset. The play clock was shown at the top of the screen, ticking down the seconds during the pass play prior the field goal attempt . It ticked down to one second when the ball hit the ground out of bounds. But the referees did review the camera replay before they decided toallow the field goal try.

The Nebraska coach was hopping mad about something and I couldn’t figure out why he kept going on. The announcers didn’t seem to have a clue neither. It must have been the whistle.


23 posted on 12/06/2009 3:52:42 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Para-Ord.45
Nebraska got screwed before the Colt McCoy idiot move at the end. Good luck with that Heisman, Colt when Alabama dismantles you. Colt McCoy = Eric Crouch II.

The refs made some pretty bad calls (Like pass interference on Nebraska when the receiver ran out of bounds) which kept Texas in it at the end.

The great thing about the 160ft TV at cowboys stadium is that you could clearly see the Texas players holding the Nebraska defense and it wasn't being called by the Refs. Suh sacked McCoy once with a Texas guy hanging off of him. I don't remember one holding call during the game.

Nobody at the game thought Texas won it. If they did they were a Yeehaw, braindead Hook'm Horns Texas fan. The people watching the game objectively thought either Nebaraska lost it or the refs lost it for Nebraska. If anybody thinks Texas won it, they are confused.

24 posted on 12/06/2009 3:57:39 PM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: haroldeveryman

The network showed the replay only once, WITH AUDIO.

The whistle blew at Zero.

I`ve YET to find a video online with the audio to watch it again.


25 posted on 12/06/2009 3:59:12 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Wrong, the ball was out of bounds and the clock kept running. The ball went out of bounds at one second left. It was the right call to reset the ball with at one second to go.


26 posted on 12/06/2009 3:59:34 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Deep breaths ... deep breaths ....

There are more important things in this life bunky.
27 posted on 12/06/2009 4:00:12 PM PST by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: Para-Ord.45
The ball clearly hit the ground out of bounds with one second left on the clock. It was a good call.

Too bad...despite being an Alabama fan I was rooting for BCS chaos!

28 posted on 12/06/2009 4:01:06 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

WHAT !?

This time of year, NOTHING is more important than football !

;-)


29 posted on 12/06/2009 4:01:49 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Para-Ord.45
Makes no difference when they blew the whistle. Clock stoppage is reviewable, and on review, the clock still said 1 second when the ball hit the ground. Blowing the whistle late was an error, and the replay corrected the error.

On the other hand, there normally is a delay between when clock should stop and when it actually does. Usually earlier in a game, nobody complains when a second or two is lost.

30 posted on 12/06/2009 4:02:22 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know
Yeah, like the exorcism of the evil demonRAT hordes up at the hill!!

btw, HOOK'EM HORNS!!!!!!!! YEAH BABY!!

31 posted on 12/06/2009 4:02:51 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Para-Ord.45

The video showed the time was on the clock.


32 posted on 12/06/2009 4:04:25 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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1:50 to go and N kicks the ball out of bounds and comes out to the 40 yard marker or where ever. Then the horse collar tackle adds another 15yds... Two mistakes which cost N the game. The clock be damned had they not made either of them. N lost because of their own failings.


33 posted on 12/06/2009 4:05:10 PM PST by deport (86 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; Para-Ord.45
Texas got a big break. The clock was 00....even if the ball hit out of bounds with 01 left. Football, unlike basketball, does not have clocks that go 1/10 of a second

Unless the game is played at Baylor's Floyd Casey stadium.

34 posted on 12/06/2009 4:07:08 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Nebraska got jobbed. This is not basketball....where Texas would have had tenths of a second left

Exactly. Football plays end at the whistle not the clock. The clock is used to see if a play was begun before the "play clock" expires but once the play begun it is the whistle that ends the play. If the whistle blows the play is dead no matter what happens after. It is the whistle not the clock that matters. As HAL would say, "Human error" but the play stands. Unless you are Texas and the creditability of the BCS (BS) system are at stake.

35 posted on 12/06/2009 4:07:54 PM PST by mc5cents
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Big 12 coordinator of football officials Walt Anderson said the right call was made in putting an extra second on the clock, allowing Texas’ Hunter Lawrence to kick the game-winning field goal in the Big 12 championship game on Saturday night. The clock showed :00 after Texas quarterback Colt McCoy scrambled and threw the ball out of bounds. But while Nebraska players threw up their arms in celebration and ran onto the field, officials waved their arms trying to gain control of what proved to be a premature celebration. A second was put back on the clock after the play was reviewed. Lawrence then made a 46-yard field goal for a 13-12 Texas victory. “The play is reviewable because it involves a clock error at a crucial time of the game,” Anderson said. Anderson said replay officials were looking at the flight of the ball with the clock superimposed on a replay. They ruled the ball hit the ground with one second left. “Once we saw it hit something, that was the point at which we stopped the clock,” Anderson said. Texas won Fair & Square.


36 posted on 12/06/2009 4:08:14 PM PST by davetex (If it's in stock, we've got it.)
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To: freedumb2003

” The video showed the time was on the clock.”

The video shows the ball landing out of bounds as the clock ticks to 0.01 BUT, what does the audio tell us as to when the whistle blew?

I heard the whistle blow at 0.00 on the play clock.


37 posted on 12/06/2009 4:09:58 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

I didn’t have a dog in the fight but clearly saw the call as correct and am glad that the officials studied the audio and the video to make a correct call...something that could not have been done just a couple of years ago. I would have loved to see Nebraska win so that TCU could have gone to the NC.


38 posted on 12/06/2009 4:15:24 PM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I guess it was technically the correct call tho on all pass plays the clock invariably runs a few seconds after the ball hits the ground. Not sure why it should be any different on that last play but then I don’t now the rules.

I was pulling for Nebraska despite the fact that I like Mack Brown and Colt McCoy and would normally pick Texas. I just was pulling for the underdog.

I have seen many games in which the refs clearly took over and decided a game.

The earliest I can remember was way back in the 60’s or maybe early 70’s. LSU was upsetting Southern Cal. Then the PAC 6 or PAC 8, refs whichever it was at the time, just took control of the game. They called one phantom penalty after another.

The next day the LSU coach called a press conference and showed film of the game. He was furious and had a right to be. My understanding is that game was the reason the NCAA quit using mixed crews.

Also remember Penn State getting a couple of game changing calls which were about as blatantly off as it is possible to get.

Also recall Troy was about to upset LSU and scored a winning TD on the last play. They refs called a late phantom shift violation to move Troy back 15 yards and also erase the TD and Troy nearly scored again.

I recall back in the 60’s the coaches of the weaker PAC 8 teams saying the refs were cheating to keep USC and UCLA from losing. Not that they were for them so much as trying keep the conference looking better.

I do think the refs called two improper pass interference calls on Nebraska right at the end, but then they regularly miss those calls anyway so can’t say it was on purpose.


39 posted on 12/06/2009 4:15:38 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Para-Ord.45

It’s you.


40 posted on 12/06/2009 4:15:42 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

My thought turned to the LSU- Ole Miss debacle immediately. Difference is that Miles blew it and lost the game for LSU but Texas was able to get the kick off and won. Don’t know anything about Mack Brown but LSU sure didn’t get their 3 million bucks worth with Miles performance.


41 posted on 12/06/2009 4:17:16 PM PST by strongbow
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To: Paleo Conservative

Right, that’s why it’s funny how we know exactly when the last play should have stopped, but no idea if the clock STARTED at the right time on the play, nor can they really review that. Or when it stopped on the previous play.

OF course, Nebraska probably wouldn’t have needed help at the end if they had just not kicked the ball out of bounds on the kickoff.


42 posted on 12/06/2009 4:18:27 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Para-Ord.45

I didn’t see the Reply, but I saw the Replay, and the ball hit the ground out of bounds, with one second on the clock.


43 posted on 12/06/2009 4:19:28 PM PST by 4Speed
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To: davetex

Colt let that one get a little too close but a second is a second.
Longhorns won that one. Hook’em!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjZLxsxmBSc


44 posted on 12/06/2009 4:20:18 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The fix was in with the early strange interference calls.


45 posted on 12/06/2009 4:23:42 PM PST by Western Phil
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To: Liberty Valance

That game just about wore me out, and I was in my living room!!


46 posted on 12/06/2009 4:25:40 PM PST by davetex (If it's in stock, we've got it.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Multiple replays showed clearly that TX still had 1 second left. It was a good call...and I went to Kansas State.


47 posted on 12/06/2009 4:26:17 PM PST by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Nebraska could have helped their cause if they had an offense.


48 posted on 12/06/2009 4:27:13 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Para-Ord.45

It was the correct call....now Texas can roll over the tide in the NC game.....Colt can finally win his Heisman...and Shipley the Biletnikoff award...beautiful.


49 posted on 12/06/2009 4:27:14 PM PST by northwinds
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To: davetex

LOL - me too! Long game. Never seen so many flags thrown in one game.


50 posted on 12/06/2009 4:30:37 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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