Posted on 12/07/2009 3:47:11 AM PST by marktwain
There's been a SWAT raid in Toronto over a gun scare, and designer Jeremy Bell was temporarily held at gunpoint. Per the Toronto Sun:
The partner at digital marketing company Teehan+Lax was surrounded by heavily armed tactical officers, cuffed and held against the wall of his Richmond St. W. office -- until, that is, the cops found the gun he had been holding in front of the window about 90 minutes earlier was a pile of blocks.
The BrickGun Semi-Automatic gun (purchased online from BrickGun, "designers and builders of the world's most realistic custom Lego weapon models") arrived at Bell's office Wednesday.
Here is Bell's account of what happened. You get some idea of the level of response the report of a man with a gun prompted, complete with air support:
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
The guy is lucky he wasn't taken out by these yahoos. That is just ridiculous. How does something like this even happen?
Coming to an Obamanation near you.
I would be willing to “bet the farm” on the fact that the person who called police was a female.
They know instinctively that guns are dangerous and will kill you all by themselves. Don’t believe it? Just set a gun on a table and ask an average female to pick it up.
Proof will be in the pudding. (Of course there are exceptions...like Sarah Palin)
The idiots in our nations capital, but mostly the media, have done a brilliant job of making guns the demons.
Oh, and I believe the wuss "Tweeted" a lame apology.
They know instinctively that guns are dangerous and will kill you all by themselves. Don’t believe it? Just set a gun on a table and ask an average female to pick it up.
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That’s a little harsh, don’t you think? I am a woman, and I would be a little shaky in the scenario you paint. But not because I think the gun will kill you buy itself but because I might accidently kill someone. Guns are dangerous — in the hands of the inexperienced. Therefore, it would be irresponsible of me to pick up your hypothetical gun unless I have been properly trained.
Most women, especially in my generation, have had no experience with hunting and, thus, no reason to learn about guns. Wouldn’t you rather have us hesitant about picking up that gun until we have had some safety lessons?
BTW, I plan to learn, and I am confident that I will be a pretty good shot and not be such a fraidy cat.
buy = by
Is it a capital offense to say the word “gun” in Canada yet?
Back when I was a kid a street cop would have entered the building and investigated then left His report would have been - “nothing more than childrens lego blocks”.
When I was 12 I use to return pop bottles and get the 2¢ deposit. Then go to Montgomery Wards and buy a box of .22 shells. Hold my .22 rifle on my handle bars all the way out to the stone quarry and have a little target practice.
“Air support” required to handle a man with a pistol....
words fail me.
I hate to say it, but that generalization would be true with most of the women I’ve known, in my family, friends, virtually all I’ve dated. That it’s not true for you makes you a rare exception...marry me?
And my wife, hehehehehe!
“I don’t like [hammers, pliers, screwdrivers, powersaws, drills, crowbars, or any other tool] around me...” quoth the metro-...
I remember saying something like this after 9/11 when I said people at all levels of government had been conditioning us to be scared little sheep. But, people said I was a kook an we needed to just trust the government to take care of us.
What is your generation? Are you in your 20's, thus a Millenial?
Rule #2: Always keep your finger off the trigger.
How hard is this?
Not hard at all, except many people don’t do it. And it is far from all you need to handle an unfamiliar firearm.
Take a gun safety class.
Buy a gun you are comfortable with. Take marksmanship classes and practice, practice, practice.
You should respect a weapon but never fear it, fear leads to mistakes.
BTW, woman take to shooting faster than men. Before you know it, you will be better than most of the men that you know.
What firearms are these people using? Most revolvers work the same. Most semiautos pistols work the same.
They probably forget Rule #1: Never point it at anything you don’t want to destroy.
Morons. Pride before the(ir) fall.
Shimmer is another exception!
I thought that was rule 2.
Rule one is “all guns are always loaded”.
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LOL! No millennial here. I’m a boomer
I went and looked it up myself. The nra has some different rule order from “jeff cooper’s rules”.
RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET (and what’s beyond)
The funny thing is, I JUST attended a training class, sponsored by the NRA, and with certified NRA instructors, and they used the above rules/order.
I bet the NRA and Cooper had different ideas about what is a rule and what’s a basic assumption.
I always assume that a gun is loaded until I visually inspect it and prove that it is not or unload it.
At all times, even after I’ve unloaded it, I practice safe gun handling because doing otherwise would lead to sloppiness that could hurt someone.
I agree with the others that say you should take a gun safety class, find a gun that is comfortable for you and practice. Heck, I’m a boomer too and just passed my CCW test a few months ago along with my best friend (a retired USAF Medic) and her husband. With all that is going on in the world these days, it would be foolish not to be prepared to defend yourself.
I'm guessing you mean negligent discharge. I agree with you. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge. All of them can be chalked up to negligence at some point.
With all that is going on in the world these days, it would be foolish not to be prepared to defend yourself.
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I agree with you completely, which is why it’s on my to-do list for the new year.
There are a very tiny number that are due to actual mechanical failures. But most of those are due to poor gunsmithing or manufacture. You are right that nearly everything people call an ‘accident’ are events of negligence.
What is an “ND” Talon?
See post 19.
>“I don’t like [hammers, pliers, screwdrivers, powersaws, drills, crowbars, or any other tool] around me...” quoth the metro-...
Nothing says ‘shut-up’ to a metro, or most people, like a tire-iron to the face. ;)
>I’m guessing you mean negligent discharge. I agree with you. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge. All of them can be chalked up to negligence at some point.
I disagree, a weapons malfunction can cause an accidental discharge that is not negligent. Such malfunctions are rare, but should be recognized as existing.
And the malfunction is due to?
At some point, someone didn't do what he or she was supposed to do, either with maintenance or quality control.
It may not be the firearm owner's fault, but it could be chalked up to negligence up the line.
Think SKS and slam-fire. Piss-poor negligent design leads to unwanted effect.
>At some point, someone didn’t do what he or she was supposed to do, either with maintenance or quality control.
But that is NOT negligence on part of the [weapon’s] operator, which is integral to the definition of “negligent discharge.”
Furthermore, even with quality-control it is possible to have a single defective item slip past.
I see your point. In my original post, I had it in mind that ND was specific to the operator, but I wasn't explicit.
I’d of never guessed ...thanks
I’d of never guessed ...thanks
Yes...it is Marktwain
But nobody physically opposes it...that’s such a shame nobody gets their feathers ruffled anymore.
These LE’s are just following orders ...programed to get a paycheck and they will kill you if you disobey and their office will high-five ‘em and....well they are just so f**king dumb.Because they have a family too..but live for the moment.
OTH..citizens are the dumbest (you and I)because we don’t sacrifice our lives for integrity(for the truth)...we are afraid.The Word of GOD says,”I’ve not been born again,of a spirit of FEAR...but of LOVE,POWER,and a Sound mind....in God..there is no fear.
I see people on here talk about fighting for “OUR RIGHTS”(and the old fat men would rather go to a tea party)...and their spirit is willing but their flesh is weak
They say.”well, I’ve gotta go to work now on monday...but maybe I can make it on the next go around ya know...I gotta make a living.”
What old lazy men don’t realize is... that old men are the ones that will have to move first...and it won’t be a Tea Party.
A Tea Party nowadays is just a social gathering to listen to politicians that are there to B*LLSH*T you into casting a vote for them....they can not HELP YOU. YOU have to do it YOURSELVES...Will you die in this endevour for freedom against your Federal monster Government that you created.
Probaly! What’s it’s worth to you? Are you that selfish?
Actions speak louder than words.
For gun enthusiasts..that use all those acronyms and gibberish “Weapontry talk” (science sh*t)&(at the Range)To make people think you know your sh*t...You ain’t sh*t..ting
NOBODY!(I take that back...you could be helping someone) forgive me,Maybe a weener.
The mind is greater than a thing.My Dad taught me safety with a gun at(13 yrs old) and no it has not changed!I taught
my son...he taught his sons and daughters and there’s nothing else to teach. now..”Self defense” is in the soul of man.
If you wanta do target practice and (well) get technical stuff...hey? Are you guys selling a service? OOPS! Sorry!
Didn’t mean to get into your “climate change” presentation..and I’m backing off stage... tipping hat to you!
You must be a wantabe COP.Safety w/a gun is simply and not hard.
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