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Raising the Banner for Creation Truth (according to the evos, these men and women aren't scientists)
ICR ^ | December 2009 | Various Authors

Posted on 12/07/2009 8:33:19 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Dr. Henry M. Morris founded the Institute for Creation Research in 1970 with a vision to uncover and present evidence for the accuracy and authority of the Bible. For almost 40 years, ICR has distinguished itself as the leader in creation science research and education, ably assisted by the many fine scientists whom God has led to work here. These men and women have dedicated their training and skills to raising the banner for the truth of our Creator God. We would like you to meet our current on-site scientists and hear their thoughts on the purpose, significance, and importance of the creation science research they do...

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1 posted on 12/07/2009 8:33:20 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: All

For the record, this post is being posted in News/Activism by the express permission of Jim Robinson, founder and owner of Free Republic:

“Debate on church doctrine and or threads on specific religious matters may be best posted in the religion forum, but the defense of religious freedom, especially against those who wish to deprive us of same belongs front and center on FR....They banned God and prayer and creationism from public schools and public places, but I’ll be damned if they’re gonna ban Him or it from FR!”

—Jim Robinson

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2 posted on 12/07/2009 8:34:06 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 12/07/2009 8:35:07 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Do we have to talk about the Flintstones again?

To your credit, last time you admitted your position is based on assumptions, and not on evidence.
4 posted on 12/07/2009 8:35:29 AM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


5 posted on 12/07/2009 8:36:02 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

Keep the Faith my FRiend.


6 posted on 12/07/2009 8:37:03 AM PST by tractorman
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To: tractorman

Mega Dittos :o)


7 posted on 12/07/2009 8:38:34 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

here, here!!!!


8 posted on 12/07/2009 8:39:06 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
As for people being scientists or not? I ask the question, what exactly is a scientist anyway? Many quacks that claim to be scientists, I mean the theory of evolution is a bunch of nonsense, same so called scientists that believe that, also believe in global warming etc.

These quacks believe the world is billions of years old, yet we have only been keeping records for around 200 years in regards to temperatures etc. I have very little respect for much of science, I mean they lose me with the theory of evolution, just to name one. It`s a bunch of nonsense, not to mention it was only a theory in itself.

9 posted on 12/07/2009 8:40:08 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

If they were engineers (like me ) and not scientists, they would quickly realize that nothing builds itself.


10 posted on 12/07/2009 8:43:43 AM PST by tractorman
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To: Friendofgeorge

I completely agree...as soon as scientists say “the debate is over”, whether it be about evolution, climate change, AIDS, you name it...you can bet they have ceased practicing science and are now pushing their own personal politics/religion.


11 posted on 12/07/2009 8:44:41 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Friendofgeorge

“I have very little respect for much of science”

Thanks for the honesty. Some hate science not because it fails to live up to its own methodology, but because of its own methodology.

The problem with the AGW crowd is they aren’t transparent, they don’t make testable predictions, the replace evidence with consensus, they don’t modify the theory when faced with new evidence (the role of sulfate aerosols, the laspe-rate in the troposphere, etc. etc.)

In contrast, something like the Big Bang theory makes theoretical predictions that have been empirically verified.


12 posted on 12/07/2009 8:46:13 AM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Henry seems to be an accomplished civil engineer. John seems to be an accomplished civil and geological engineer...

Hold on....are you now saying YOUR scientists are infallible and don't have an agenda to push, no bias, no foredrawn conclusions?

I'll deal with their bogus claims instead of their profiles.....and would match my profile against theirs any day.

Though, they allow BTMS* to pass on the nonsense...so i won't see much of their works.

...but lemme get this straight....all other scientists but yours are fallible and biased......right?

13 posted on 12/07/2009 8:54:58 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I believe deeply in God and that The Bible supports ~15 billion years of creation and molecular evolution in some, but not all cases.


14 posted on 12/07/2009 8:55:46 AM PST by onedoug
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m thankful for them too. For too long Christians felt forced to accept theistic evolution or reject their faith. It was so cool when I first watched a Kent Hovind video and saw that the Bible isn’t wrong.


15 posted on 12/07/2009 8:59:39 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

For starters I would strongly suggest that you take the time to look up the definition of a scientific theory.

Making arguments against a subject without at least rudimentary knowledge of that subject only makes you look foolish.


16 posted on 12/07/2009 9:03:25 AM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: onedoug

You are entitled to your belief. But hopefully you are not one of those evos who has declared the “debate is over.”


17 posted on 12/07/2009 9:04:30 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: demshateGod

==I’m thankful for them too.

It really must bug the evos to know end knowing that these biblical creationists obtained their degrees from some of the most prestigious Temple of Darwin indoctrination centers in the country!


18 posted on 12/07/2009 9:09:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
...who has declared the “debate is over.”

Never. God's ways are too deep and rich for that nonsense.

19 posted on 12/07/2009 9:16:33 AM PST by onedoug
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To: GodGunsGuts

Just like it made “the people of the land” mad in the book of Ezra that God was using Ahasuerus, the King of Babylon, to rebuild the city of Jerusalem.


20 posted on 12/07/2009 9:19:44 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

Would that be the same Kent Hovind who is serving a ten-year prison sentence in the Federal Correctional Institution, Edgefield in Edgefield, South Carolina, after being convicted of 58 federal counts, including twelve tax offenses, one count of obstructing federal agents and forty-five counts of structuring cash transactions.

It appears there are he does not take a literal translation of the Ten Commandments


21 posted on 12/07/2009 9:24:14 AM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

It’s the same one. He was under the misconception that the United States was still a government of the people. He should have realized it isn’t and paid his taxes.


22 posted on 12/07/2009 9:37:32 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

I guess he thought that Matthew 12:17 was only an allgory.


23 posted on 12/07/2009 9:50:16 AM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Junk science is a term used in U.S. political and legal disputes that brands an advocate’s claims about scientific data, research, or analyses as spurious. The term may convey a pejorative connotation that the advocate is driven by political, ideological, financial, or other unscientific motives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_science

So who is staffing the Erik von Daniken Chair?


24 posted on 12/07/2009 10:06:24 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts
I was brought up and taught “millions of years”. Lately, I have seen much evidence to suggest that thousands of years in in fact a possibility. In fact, a more likely possibility than millions of years. Yet, Evos will not even consider the biblical views, thus limiting their ability to find truth. We need to reinvent the adage “Question Authority” to be “QUESTION SCIENCE”. or “Science is NEVER settled”, because you don't know, what you don't know.
25 posted on 12/07/2009 10:22:32 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I quite agree, the evidence for a young creation is growing by leaps and bounds. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. All the best—GGG


26 posted on 12/07/2009 10:57:42 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: demshateGod

He was under the misconception that the United States was still a government of the people.

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I don’t follow. He lied and cheated about his income because he was under a misconception that the US is still a government of the people? Such a shame he didn’t use that defense in court. I’m sure he would have gotten off.

I guess I was under the impression that he lied and cheated on his taxes because he thought he could get away with it, and didn’t want to have to play by the same rules as us little people. No different than Daschle, Geitner, or anyone else.


27 posted on 12/07/2009 11:03:07 AM PST by dmz
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To: GodGunsGuts

And you haven’t shown us one shred of this evidence.


28 posted on 12/07/2009 11:05:19 AM PST by Wacka
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To: dmz

If he had said he did it to raise money for a underage prostitution ring, he would have got away with it. He said his employees were missionaries. They were but the government didn’t see it that way.

Except Daschle, Geitner, and those guys aren’t serving 10 years.


29 posted on 12/07/2009 11:05:38 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

he continues to piss in the wind. One would think the blowback stinks


30 posted on 12/07/2009 11:07:02 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: Wacka

How do you keep your nose trimmed so close to your face? Do you carry around a chainsaw in your car or something?


31 posted on 12/07/2009 11:15:28 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
“GGG admits he’s a fraud & professional troll”

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/9hp52/whats_the_best_scam_youve_ever_pulled/c0ctjz8

32 posted on 12/07/2009 11:37:58 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Already been tried, xcamel. But it does go to show how desperate your fellow evo-trolls are to take me down. Thankfully, not everyone is as easily (or should I say voluntarily?) hoodwinked as you are. Or perhaps maybe you are behind this whole effort? I wouldn’t put it past you, given your inverted moral code.


33 posted on 12/07/2009 11:47:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

You haven’t showed one peer-reviewed scientific paper on any creationist claim.

What you spam this forum with is pseudoscience by BTMS*, the greatest science writer of all time, and others.

Religion is not science. All you spout is religion.

I think what you are referring to is my “Pinocchio nose” but it is so vague a reference, I’m not sure.


34 posted on 12/07/2009 12:17:24 PM PST by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts

Then it should be easy for you to please explain why we find no trilobites above the Permian strata, and why we find no dinosaurs above the cretaceous strata, or no mammals in the Cambrian strata?

I have asked you this question at least 7 times with no reply, are you still researching your answer or just avoiding a question that you cannot answer?


35 posted on 12/07/2009 12:17:57 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the plug!


37 posted on 12/07/2009 12:37:19 PM PST by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts; xcamel
You forgot:

"Evolutionism (the idea that is the only moral law in nature) has brought us English colonialism, the opium wars, robber-baron capitalism, fascism, naziism, and two world wars.

You want to know what comes next? The answer is that unless humankind disabuses itself of this stupid bullshit, WW-III comes next."

- Ted Holden

38 posted on 12/07/2009 12:38:49 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts

I really wouldn’t mind if the Evos posted something CONCRETE, LOGICAL and EVIDENCE BASED to back up their theories ( even if they do critique ID ).

What I cannot stand is their getting PERSONAL.

Also, I cannot stand ONE LINERS. They do nothing for me.

Discussions and logical arguments should be welcome, insults and ridicule are not.


39 posted on 12/07/2009 12:42:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Hey GGG, they’re jerks. Just write ‘em off and go in peace. Why waste your energy?


40 posted on 12/07/2009 12:44:03 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: betty boop

Because they are setting up fake accounts and pretending they are me on other sites, and then bringing it back here and trying to make it look like I’m a troll, when they are in fact the trolls. Notice we don’t follow them around, but they dog us from post to post and try to make our live miserable...and the evo-friendly mods let them get away with it, to include the malicious keyword spams...even after we complain about it. It’s a coordinated campaign against us, BB. And it is being hatched at websites such as Darwin Central.


41 posted on 12/07/2009 12:48:03 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Considering the source there might be a certain amount of honor to being called a troll and an “evo-atheist” at that.

When you're treated as a friend, then would be the occasion to be concerned, I should think.

42 posted on 12/07/2009 12:49:26 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: betty boop

PS Did you notice the “a mod who shall remain nameless” invited xcamel over to Darwin Central? Explains a lot, don’t you think???


43 posted on 12/07/2009 12:49:50 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Sounds like all these jokers are trolls. Ignore all evo-thugs will be my motto. It’d be nice to have a list.


44 posted on 12/07/2009 1:03:27 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
It’s a coordinated campaign against us, BB. And it is being hatched at websites such as Darwin Central.

Well, no sh*t, GGG (pardon my French).

But they're still total, abject NINNIES.

Why do you bother with them at all?

45 posted on 12/07/2009 1:10:29 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: demshateGod

Yes, they are trolls, and they coordinate their attacks from FreeRepublic-hating websites like Darwin Central.

Indeed, now I’m getting threatening PMs from fanatical evos saying that I better back off xcamel “or else”.


46 posted on 12/07/2009 1:12:07 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: SeekAndFind

We have, over and over again. The creves totally ignore it or dismiss it.


47 posted on 12/07/2009 1:12:45 PM PST by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts

[[Because they are setting up fake accounts and pretending they are me on other sites, and then bringing it back here and trying to make it look like I’m a troll, when they are in fact the trolls.]]

That hsould be grounds enough for them to be banned- They’ve proven themselves to be nothign but trolls, nasty trolls at that- anyonme that pull that kind of childish crap isn’t worth wasting any energy on- they’ve proven over and over again that nothign they say can ever be trusted again- and stooping that low is despicable- even for them


48 posted on 12/07/2009 1:29:07 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Henry seems to be an accomplished civil engineer.

Maybe, but when an Hydraulic Engineer comes up with the Morris Theory of Hydraulic Sorting, which is contrary to what should be learned in High School Physics lab, I have immediate doubts about either his competance or honesty.

49 posted on 12/07/2009 1:32:05 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: betty boop

Ninnies who are specifically hatched and dispatched by DC to be trolls on FR. Why are you willing to tolerate them once they have exposed themselves for what they really are?


50 posted on 12/07/2009 1:32:24 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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