Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

EPA Finding Gives It Effective Control of the Economy
The Corner on National Review Online ^ | 12/07/09 | Iain Murray

Posted on 12/07/2009 10:14:03 AM PST by TonyInOhio

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-71 next last

1 posted on 12/07/2009 10:14:04 AM PST by TonyInOhio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio; DollyCali; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; Thunder90; Little Bill; Nervous Tick; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/07/2009 10:16:11 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio
Time to go on the offensive and start filing lawsuits against the implementation of this charade. These left wing nutcases must be stopped.
3 posted on 12/07/2009 10:17:12 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (A proud global warming denier.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

“Stroke of the pen, law of the land.”

NOT what the Founding Fathers intended.


4 posted on 12/07/2009 10:17:14 AM PST by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

BTTT!


5 posted on 12/07/2009 10:17:44 AM PST by houeto (Free Republic will not support RINOS!! Rudy McRomney, et al, can go straight to hell!! -JR)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

We have to get these leftist democrats out asap.


6 posted on 12/07/2009 10:17:47 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: steelyourfaith

Attack, attack attack....Repeal the Clean Air Act !!


7 posted on 12/07/2009 10:18:20 AM PST by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Major Matt Mason

To get around this, Obama’s EPA proposed a “tailoring rule” that would change the language of the CAA so that the threshold would be 25,000 tons. The legality of this is very much in doubt, as it amounts to the executive branch legislating, and is therefore a violation of the separation of powers.

Also under the Clean Air Act, any “pollutant” that “endangers” human health and welfare, and which is regulated for stationary and mobile sources, becomes subject to National Ambient Air Quality Standards. As described above, the Obama administration is in the process of fulfilling all these NAAQS criteria.

Last week, two environmentalist groups petitioned the EPA to regulate greenhouse gases under NAAQS. Soon the EPA will have no choice. Once the NAAQS kicks in — and it will — the American economy is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed. The government won’t be able to permit anything larger than a mansion. Taken to the extent mandated under the Clean Air Act, the EPA would probably have to order the shut-down of most industrial suppliers and users of conventional energy.

WHAT IS GOING ON?
THIS IS MINDLESS REGULATION.


8 posted on 12/07/2009 10:20:43 AM PST by Achilles Heel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

“There’s only one remedy for this otherwise inevitable regulatory nightmare. The Congress must pass H. R. 391, legislation offered by Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R., Tenn.) that prohibits the EPA from using the Clean Air Act to regulate greenhouse-gas emissions.”

Even if they manage to pass the regulations they want, “regulations” can be litigated, and will be. As with any so called, “climate treaty”, we will never allow them to go into effect.

July 2, 2009
Senate May Pass U.S. Climate Bill, Reject Treaty, Kerry Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601130&sid=aMs9V_EUxE0Y
By Jim Efstathiou Jr. and Daniel Whitten

....”Passing __ domestic __ climate-change legislation remains __ the most crucial step, Purvis said.

<>

Ironically, The “EPA” came out and said “There are no findings that Co2 is dangerous to the environment...” Funny.... 6

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/12/guest-blog-senator-john-barrasso-r-wy-uncovers-epa-deception/#more-6615

Internal Memo Confirms EPA Regulation of CO2 Will Hurt Economy!
http://patrioticmind.com/2009/05/internal-memo-confirms-epa-regulation-of-co2-will-hurt-economy/
by Patriot-in-Chief on May 12, 2009 ·

ABC News Correspondent Jake Tapper is reporting on an internal Obama administration memo to the EPA. The memo is warning that regulation under the clean air act will damage the economy, especially small business and communities.

“That nine-page memo voices “a concern that EPA is making a finding based on (1) ‘harm’ from substances that have no demonstrated direct health effects, such as respiratory or toxic effects, (2) available scientific data that purports to conclusively establish the nature and extent of the adverse public health and welfare impacts are almost exclusively from non-EPA sources, and (3) applying a dramatically expanded precautionary principle.”
If the EPA goes forward with a finding of endangerment for all six greenhouse gases, the document warns, “it could be establishing a relaxed and expansive new standard for endangerment. Subsequently, EPA would be petitioned to find endangerment and regulate many other ‘pollutants’ for the sake of the precautionary principle (e.g., electromagnetic fields, perchlorates, endocrine disruptors, and noise).”

This is of course directly the opposite of the Obama administrations message to the public that Cap-and-Trade would be an economic boon to our country. Read the orignial memo here: EPA memo http://patrioticmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/epa.pdf

More information on this whole ongoing scam can be found here. http://patrioticmind.com/2009/04/taxing-the-very-air-we-breathe/

Update: Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) blogs on the “Smoking Gun” memo at Heritage.org.

Read it here. http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/12/guest-blog-senator-john-barrasso-r-wy-uncovers-epa-deception/

Guest Blog: Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) Uncovers EPA Deception

Posted May 12th, 2009 at 3.39pm in Energy and Environment, Ongoing Priorities.
EPA Holds ‘Smoking Gun’ Memo from the White House
VIDEO at link
Today I exposed a “smoking gun” White House memo to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The memo warns that regulation of small CO2 emitters will have “serious economic consequences” for businesses and the overall economy. I was questioning EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson during the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee budget hearing.

I received the memo this morning, that’s marked ‘Deliberative: Attorney-Client Privilege’. In this memo Counsel for the White House repeatedly, repeatedly suggests a lack of scientific support for this proposed finding. This is a smoking gun, saying that the EPA findings were political and not scientific.

The EPA has failed to release the memo and has ignored the advice.

The nine-page White House memo undermines the EPA’s reasoning for a proposed finding that greenhouse gases are a danger to public health.

This misuse of the Clean Air Act will be a trigger for overwhelming regulation and lawsuits based on gases emitted from cars, schools, hospitals and small business. This will affect any number of other sources, including lawn mowers, snowmobiles and farms. This will be a disaster for the small businesses that drive America.

To quote from the memo to the EPA, “making the decision to regulate carbon dioxide under the Clean Air Act for the first time is likely to have serious economic consequences for regulated entities throughout the US economy, including small businesses and small communities.”

The memo is an amalgamation of findings from government agencies’ sent from the Office of Management and Budget to the EPA.

This smoking gun memo is in stark contrast to the official position presented by the Administration and the EPA Administrator.

Despite the findings in the memo, the White House has given the EPA the green light to move ahead with regulation under the Clean Air Act.

According to government records, the document was submitted by the OMB as comment on the EPA’s April proposed finding that greenhouse gases are a danger to public health and welfare.

The memo - marked as “Deliberative-Attorney Client Privilege” - doesn’t have a date or a named author. But an OMB spokesman confirmed to news agencies that it was prepared by Obama administration staff.

BACKGROUND: The White House brief questions the link between the EPA’s scientific technical endangerment proposal and the EPA’s political summary. Administrator Jackson said in the endangerment summary that “scientific findings in totality point to compelling evidence of human-induced climate change, and that serious risks and potential impacts to public health and welfare have been clearly identified…”

The White House memo notes, the EPA endangerment technical document points out there are several areas where essential behaviors of greenhouse gases are “not well determined” and “not well understood.”

It warns about the adequacy of the EPA finding that the gases are a harm to the public when there is “no demonstrated direct health effects,” and the scientific data on which the agency relies are “almost exclusively from non-EPA sources.”

The memo contends that the endangerment finding, if finalized by the administration, could make agencies vulnerable to litigation alleging inadequate environmental permitting reviews, adding that the proposal could unintentionally trigger a cascade of regulations.

The views expressed by guest bloggers on the Foundry do not necessarily reflect the views of the Heritage Foundation.


9 posted on 12/07/2009 10:21:57 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("The Role of Government is to Secure Our Liberty, Not to Seize It" ~ Rush 6/26/09)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Achilles Heel
It is mindless in the sense that radical environmentalists believe that humans are a hazard to the planet and should be severely limited or eliminated. These are human hating humans.
10 posted on 12/07/2009 10:24:52 AM PST by Truth29
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

There is an excellent chance the election of 2010 won’t mean anything.

Obama will take everything he wants by fiat.

If a bunch of RINOs go up there and continue their civil war with the conservatives, expect more of this type of stuff.

You wanted “Change” America. Now bend over and get ready to take it.


11 posted on 12/07/2009 10:26:56 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Achilles Heel
WHAT IS GOING ON? THIS IS MINDLESS REGULATION.

It's called a COUP.

12 posted on 12/07/2009 10:28:54 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

Green is the new tyranny.


13 posted on 12/07/2009 10:29:35 AM PST by mojito
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mojito
Green is the new tyranny.

That's a great tagline, right there.

14 posted on 12/07/2009 10:30:26 AM PST by TonyInOhio (The City of masterless men have found a Master.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Tzimisce

Obama will take everything he wants by fiat.

Well, with govt motors and stimulus bills and porkulus continuing, EPA rulings, Obamacare regulating doctors, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has the army in the streets next.


15 posted on 12/07/2009 10:31:31 AM PST by Achilles Heel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Matchett-PI

“There’s only one remedy for this otherwise inevitable regulatory nightmare.”

B.S.

I can think of a few more Remedies.


16 posted on 12/07/2009 10:32:39 AM PST by myself6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

We’re done- We’re finished- the LIES have won, and the TRUTH has lost- with htis announcement, there is absolutely nothign that can be doen to stop this fraud- I’ve said right along that now that it has been discovered that ‘man-caused global wamring’ is a criminal fraud, that they were simply goign to change their wording to now say ‘CO2 is a pollutant which we must act now to reverse’ before ‘it’s too late to reverse it’

The EPA now has the legal power to enforce laws, and to extract taxes and fines, to control CO2 because it is now concidered a ‘dangerous greenhouse gas’, and it doesn’t matter if the earth warms, cools, or remains the same- they feel it’s their duty to enforce laws taxes and fines to control the gas- it’sa no logner about ‘climate change’, and is now only about ‘pollution control’

These freaking criminals have suceeded in scamming us all- defrauding us of trillions of dollars- all based on a lie that CO2 creates and environmental crisis that ‘needs to be fixed imediately’ accordign to hteir alarmism- I knew damn well these criminals were just simply goign to change the wordign to ‘pollution control’ to keep their criminal fraud alive


17 posted on 12/07/2009 10:32:45 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio

Well the answer is to STOP FUNDING THE EPA.
There that solves the problem.


18 posted on 12/07/2009 10:35:49 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Achilles Heel

[[To get around this, Obama’s EPA proposed a “tailoring rule” that would change the language of the CAA so that the threshold would be 25,000 tons. The legality of this is very much in doubt, as it amounts to the executive branch legislating, and is therefore a violation of the separation of powers.]]

It doesn;’t matter if it’s a violation of hte seperation of powers- this administration is continually violating the constitution because he knows he can, because he knows noone will seriously stand up against it- by all rights, he shoudl be immediately thrown out of office for violating his sworn duty and oath of office to proetect us from these kinds of fraudulent acts, and the democrats shopuld be immediately thrown out of office for failing to represent our best itnerests by scamming us- criminal charges shoudl be filed, and the government sued for deriliction of duty and engagign in a criminal act agaisnt hte people

But nope- NOONE is goign to stop these criminals, and so they don’t really care whether somethign is agaisnt hte law or not


19 posted on 12/07/2009 10:37:01 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: TonyInOhio
Time to use the tactics of the left in a big, big way. SUE the bastards in every way and every how....and if that fails, SUE ‘EM AGAING..pullout all of the stops...tie them up in legal hassles forever...this CANNOT stand!!
20 posted on 12/07/2009 10:39:05 AM PST by JPG (Climategate coming soon to the SRM.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-71 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson