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To: TonyInOhio
Taken to the extent mandated under the Clean Air Act, the EPA would probably have to order the shut-down of most industrial suppliers and users of conventional energy.

I hope that's exactly what they do because it's the only way we'll get most of the drones to snap out of it. The hardcore ones will hold a party, no doubt, but the rest will wake up to see how much damage is being done. It's absurd that it would take something like that, but obviously they aren't seeing it yet so stronger measures are called for.

22 posted on 12/07/2009 10:41:27 AM PST by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: Dahoser
I'm afraid this COUP may have legs. Consider this:

The chief industrial and energy businesses in America -- the ones hit hardest by the new EPA ruling -- will now lobby for passing of the Cap-and-Trade bill. Why? Because if it now passes, they won't be the ONLY industries penalized by the EPA ruling. All other industries and businesses will be penalized too, which in effect levels out the playing field.

Obama and the EPA know this. This ruling is, basically, EXTORTION!!!!

Watch: the energy industry will now have a financial reason to support Cap-and-Trade.

27 posted on 12/07/2009 10:48:03 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Dahoser

[[I hope that’s exactly what they do because it’s the only way we’ll get most of the drones to snap out of it.]]

They aren’t goign to shut down these businesses- they are simply goign to impose heavy fiens and taxes and ‘carbon credits’, and these businesses will simply go right along with it without resisting liek they have been for a long time now- because they know they are powerless to stop the government from ruining their business- Big business to the government is ghe ‘root of all evil’ and our government will make htem pay for their suppsoed ‘environmental sins’

as well financial institutions are ALL onboard with htis collossal criminal fraud because they are the oens that are goign to be handling al lthe money extorted from businesses in the form of hte carbon credits- these financial institutions stand to make massive massive profits from this criminal fraud, and there is NO WAY the government and the financial institutions are EVER goign to let this fraud die the death it deserves to die.


31 posted on 12/07/2009 10:55:14 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Dahoser
Taken to the extent mandated under the Clean Air Act, the EPA would probably have to order the shut-down of most industrial suppliers and users of conventional energy.

The NRO article does not cite what part of the Clean Air Act would force the EPA to shut down users of conventional energy. Why couldn't they choose to regulate the "big" energy users and choose not to regulate the "smaller" ones, at least not right away? (Why would they choose not to regulate smaller users? To avoid an economic crash that would hurt Dems politically.)

But even in that case, that regulation would still raise electric, natural gas, and gasoline prices.

I am hoping this will be another negative for the Dems in Nov. next year.

45 posted on 12/07/2009 12:45:59 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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