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Gun Control Issue Reveals a Changing Canada
NY Times ^ | December 7, 2009 | IAN AUSTEN

Posted on 12/07/2009 3:34:49 PM PST by neverdem

OTTAWA — Like public health care, Canada’s tight gun-control laws help distinguish the country from its powerful neighbor to the south. But as Canadians commemorated the 20th anniversary of one of the country’s most notorious shooting sprees on Sunday, their Parliament was on course to eliminate one of its most significant gun-control measures.

A long-gun registry, which requires the registration of rifles and shotguns, emerged largely from public revulsion over the massacre in 1989.

A decade before the Columbine high school shootings set off a national debate on gun violence in the United States, an angry, unemployed 25-year-old armed with a semiautomatic hunting rifle stormed the École Polytechnique, an engineering school in Montreal. Shouting “I hate feminists,” the gunman separated the female students from the men and killed 14 women before killing himself.

The crime was the sort that, even then, most Canadians thought could happen only in the United States. The anniversary was observed Sunday, as it has been every year since, by ceremonies across the nation...

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“Canada is suddenly changing into a place that loves guns and armies and war,” said Gerald L. Caplan, a prominent academic and former campaign director of the liberal New Democratic Party. “I don’t know how we got there but I don’t like it.”

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“This is so vicious, it’s amazing,” said Suzanne Laplante-Edward, whose 21-year-old daughter, Anne-Marie, was killed in the Montreal shooting. “The gun-control law is a monument erected to the memory of our daughters.”

The current debate does not involve handguns, whose registration has been required since 1934. Nor does it involve a variety of military-style weapons like assault rifles and sawed-off shotguns, which are banned outright. And the law’s repeal would not alter the requirement that gun buyers take safety courses and obtain a license...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 12/07/2009 3:34:50 PM PST by neverdem
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To: fanfan
BANG!
2 posted on 12/07/2009 3:36:23 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
And when Guns are confiscated, what else will they need to confiscate and control mercilessly? Knives?, Gasoline?, Fertilizer and diesel fuel?, big vehicles, Dynamite?

Google, BATH SCHOOL DISASTER.

3 posted on 12/07/2009 3:39:17 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: neverdem

Hmm, you know i was thinkin`...

if people were armed when that deranged lunatic entered the poli-technique they could have shot the SOB before he killed so many, if any, at all.


4 posted on 12/07/2009 3:41:22 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: neverdem

They want their citizens to be prepared in case our civil war spills over the northern border.


5 posted on 12/07/2009 3:51:38 PM PST by ronnyquest (That's what governments are for: to get in a man's way.)
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To: neverdem
The real story behind this national gun registry in Canada is that it's being eliminated because it is completely useless and an enormous waste of money. I was traveling in Canada when it became a hot political issue in 2002-03 due to the huge cost overruns of the program. Someone figured out that the Canadian government could have funded something like 20,000 organ transplants over the course of a decade with the money they p!ssed away on that stupid registry.

It was so ineffective that the Canadian government even doctored the records to avoid having to answer for just how ineffective it was. When the law was first passed they originally estimated that 4-5 million firearms were owned by Canadians. When only 2 million of them got registered, they revised their estimate downward to avoid admitting that only 40%-50% of the gun owners felt obligated to obey the law.

6 posted on 12/07/2009 3:52:04 PM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: neverdem

Can you believe it? The Times forgot to name the shooter?

Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi

Marc Lépine (October 26, 1964 – December 6, 1989) was a 25-year-old man from Montreal,Canada who murdered fourteen women and wounded ten women and four men[1] at the École Polytechnique, an engineering school affiliated with the Université de Montréal, in the “École Polytechnique massacre”, also known as the “Montreal Massacre”.[2][3]

Lépine was born Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi, in Montreal, the son of a Canadian nurse and a Algerian-born businessman.


7 posted on 12/07/2009 3:52:29 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Algerian-born businessman.

Ahh...the arm of Islam is long.

8 posted on 12/07/2009 4:36:39 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Para-Ord.45
the gunman separated the female students from the men and killed 14 women before killing himself.

Maybe its just me but I don't think I could just stand around watching another person shoot innocent people. Stupid or not, I'd do something regardless of the outcome........

9 posted on 12/07/2009 4:43:43 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: neverdem
"“The gun-control law is a monument erected to the memory of our daughters.”

If only one of those women had had a gun and knew how to use it, there might have been only one death that day. His.

Think about it, Mommy.

;-/

10 posted on 12/07/2009 4:44:16 PM PST by Gargantua (Appropriate that the re-birth of our great nation be delivered by a woman.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You forgot this part about Lépine’s dear old dad.

Gharbi was a non-practicing Muslim, Instability and violence marked the family: they moved frequently, and much of Lépine’s early childhood was spent in Costa Rica and Puerto Rico, where his father was working for a Swiss mutual funds company.[4][11]

Gharbi was an authoritarian, possessive and jealous man, frequently violent towards his wife and his children.[12] Gharbi had contempt for women and believed that they were only intended to serve men.[13] He required his wife to act as his personal secretary, slapping her if she made any errors in typing, and forcing her retype documents in spite of the cries of their toddler.[11][14] He was also neglectful and abusive towards his children, particularly his son,[9] and discouraged any tenderness, as he considered it spoiling.[13][15][16]

In 1970, following an incident in which Gharbi struck his son so hard that the marks on his face were visible a week later, his mother decided to leave. The legal separation was finalized in 1971, and the divorce in 1976.


11 posted on 12/07/2009 4:45:00 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: neverdem
Lépine was the child of a French-Canadian mother and an Algerian father, and had been physically abused by his father. His suicide note claimed political motives and blamed feminists for ruining his life.
12 posted on 12/07/2009 5:19:12 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Hot Tabasco

I like to think I would do something too. Something so bold it would surprise even me.


13 posted on 12/07/2009 5:31:24 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Perfection is the enemy of Good.)
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To: neverdem

Some half-caste Muslim kills a bunch of women and the Canadian government institutes a meaningless unenforceable gun law penalizing all Canadian citizen as a memorial to the slain women? Most politicians everywhere must be insane.


14 posted on 12/07/2009 7:24:04 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: neverdem; All
Shouting “I hate feminists,” the gunman separated the female students from the men and killed 14 women before killing himself.

Isn't there even one person in Canada who asks :"What would have happened if one of the females was armed?"
15 posted on 12/08/2009 6:47:29 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Snowyman

non-practicing? From that description he was seriously practicing.


16 posted on 12/08/2009 6:54:52 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: neverdem; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Squawk 8888; headsonpikes; AntiKev; Snowyman; ...
Thanks for the ping, neverdem.


17 posted on 12/08/2009 7:54:00 AM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Snowyman
Gharbi was a non-practicing Muslim

Seems to me he was "practicing" normal Muslim behavior...

18 posted on 12/08/2009 8:01:25 AM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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