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Sen. Snowe likely 60th vote for cloture on Senate Obamacare with abortion funding, public option
Fox news Channel | 12/7/09

Posted on 12/07/2009 4:11:36 PM PST by pabianice

Per Fox. Title says it all. Gonna happen in time for Christmas. Gutless conservatives have been rightfully excluded from government.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoabortion; bhohealthcare; cloture; missinglink; snowe
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1 posted on 12/07/2009 4:11:37 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

So Blanche can have cover??


2 posted on 12/07/2009 4:12:58 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Mmmm, Mmmm, Mmmm.......)
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To: pabianice

I’m not even going to say what I’m thinking.


3 posted on 12/07/2009 4:13:13 PM PST by jersey117
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To: pabianice

I’m sorry, not buying it.


4 posted on 12/07/2009 4:13:14 PM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: pabianice

Breaking News?

Shouldn’t there be a “Fully Expected News” category?

How about a “Usual Weasels” category?


5 posted on 12/07/2009 4:14:30 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: pabianice

I thought there were 3 Dem holdouts. Fox ought to shut the hell up!


6 posted on 12/07/2009 4:14:54 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: pabianice

TEA PARTY


7 posted on 12/07/2009 4:15:09 PM PST by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: pabianice

Now if we were in 1776 what would the colonists do??????


8 posted on 12/07/2009 4:15:11 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: pabianice

What a worthless politician.

If she isn’t tossed from the party, democrats will say “bi-partisan” support for the next year.


9 posted on 12/07/2009 4:15:52 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Is she up for election in 2010?

Do the Maine voters care what way she votes?


10 posted on 12/07/2009 4:17:32 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: pabianice

Wonder how much they are putting in her Swiss account? What do you think...a 100 million? Gold?


11 posted on 12/07/2009 4:17:48 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: pabianice

If Lieberman promised to be a holdout, they will still be short.


12 posted on 12/07/2009 4:17:53 PM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: pabianice

Is Snowe up for re-election?


13 posted on 12/07/2009 4:18:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ronnie raygun

They would kill them all and let God sort them out !


14 posted on 12/07/2009 4:19:17 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: pabianice

You know, given the utter failure of Maine’s version of statewide healthcare, you would think that Snowe would seriously consider voting against this piece of garbage ObamaCare they are attempting and WILL shove down our collective throats.

I have said it once and I will continue to say it: I will vote for any GOP-type candidate that guarantees to repeal, remove, whatEVER this and any other thing like Cap and Tax, etc.


15 posted on 12/07/2009 4:19:20 PM PST by cranked
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To: ronnie raygun
Now if we were in 1776 what would the colonists do??????

Something we are not allowed to discuss on FR.

Mr. niteowl77

16 posted on 12/07/2009 4:19:25 PM PST by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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To: ronnie raygun

Uh, I’d do what they did in 1775 ~


17 posted on 12/07/2009 4:19:54 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: pabianice

Anyone who didn’t anticipate that the fix was in from the start had their head in the sand. We truly are in the “awkward stage”. There seems to be no legal, peaceful way for us to fight all of the the numerous ways the statists in both parties are raping our Constitution. Yet it’s too soon for “the shooting” to begin (purely in a metaphorical way, of course).


18 posted on 12/07/2009 4:20:11 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: pabianice

In New England they used to burn witches at “the stake”! I guess one got away!


19 posted on 12/07/2009 4:20:11 PM PST by WellyP
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To: pabianice
The Republican party needs to be put out of business permanently. Time to start a new party that actually represents conservative Americans.

A new party may take a generation to finally boot out the marxists in D.C., but you have to start somewhere.

20 posted on 12/07/2009 4:20:29 PM PST by Pox
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To: pabianice

It’s not a surprise in the slightest.

The only SLIGHTLY good news about this is that this move serves as greater proof that Obama is NOT bipartisan when we make our case to people considering our views. A “bi-partisan” president would realize that his move towards universal health care in and of itself is a hard pill for many in this country to swallow. That he and the Democrats in Congress insist not only pushing this controversial legislation, but do so with abortion tacked on like a slap in the face, dispels any illusions that this administration might still be trying to maintain.

A bipartisan president would have realized that the health care plan itself was divisive enough. A bipartisan president would have said, “You know, we’re pushing our agenda pretty hard by adding a public option... perhaps we ought to throw the other side a bone and not trample on one of their biggest issues.”

We need to pounce on this, and hard.


21 posted on 12/07/2009 4:20:30 PM PST by MWS
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To: K-oneTexas
Do the Maine voters care what way she votes?

My impression is that she is re-elected more on her celebrity as former first lady than on a belief that she represents the citizens well.

If it's not that, it's affection for her husband the ex-governor.

22 posted on 12/07/2009 4:20:49 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: pabianice

This doesn’t make sense, since Sen. Nelson is going to vote no because of abortion and Sen. Lieberman is going to vote no because of a public option. Blanche — who knows? Certainly Senator Reid’s hysteria suggests they don’t have enough votes.


23 posted on 12/07/2009 4:20:58 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: pabianice

No shocker here. That sunt will vote Democrat all the time.


24 posted on 12/07/2009 4:21:42 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: jersey117

I don’t dare say what I am thinking!
I do find myself wondering what the storm on the White House and Congress is going to look like, however.


25 posted on 12/07/2009 4:21:51 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: I cannot think of a name

“One idea calls for national nonprofit insurance plans to be administered by the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees the popular Federal Employees Health Benefits Program.

The proposal seems to appeal to a key Republican, Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, who met with Obama at the White House on Saturday.

On Sunday, Snowe called the possible compromise “a positive development” because it would give consumers more options for buying insurance.

Snowe’s potential support for the Democratic-crafted bill is crucial. Supporters need 60 votes to overcome filibusters, and the chamber’s 40 Republicans hope to draw at least one Democrat to their side.

It could be Nelson, who says he will not support final passage of a health care bill unless it includes the tight abortion restrictions he wants. If so, Democrats would have to woo moderate Republicans such as Snowe.”

This idea is an absolute non-starter, just like the “trigger.” Liberal Dems will never support it. Also, I can’t find anything that says Snowe will vote for abortion funding in the bill.


26 posted on 12/07/2009 4:23:27 PM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Brilliant

You mean pro life Democrat Senator Casey of Pennsylvania lied to us when he ran for election? Running on his fathers name and firm pro life stand he gathered up the Catholic vote. What fools they are. Stupid silly dimwits voting for the liar Casey. One conservative in line to vote last November said “ if any of the Catholics voted pro life we would not see Casey or Obama types. They always break ranks.” I am sorry to say she was speaking the truth.


27 posted on 12/07/2009 4:23:44 PM PST by oldironsides
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To: awake-n-angry

Don’t trust him at all. Don’t forget, when he ran for VP with ol whatshisname...he abandoned his sacrosanct beliefs to run on the ticket...He is no better than the louts in the progressive party.


28 posted on 12/07/2009 4:24:10 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: pabianice

Elections have consequences.


29 posted on 12/07/2009 4:24:33 PM PST by paddles
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To: pabianice

Disgusting!!!


30 posted on 12/07/2009 4:24:45 PM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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To: pabianice; shibumi; Salamander

31 posted on 12/07/2009 4:24:56 PM PST by Semper Mark (Vegetables are what food eats.)
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To: pabianice

So is Olympia Snowe on Harry’s and O’s Christmas Party lists for sure this year or what?


32 posted on 12/07/2009 4:25:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: thecabal

What will be too late in your opinion?


33 posted on 12/07/2009 4:25:45 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: pabianice

These people are unstoppable.


34 posted on 12/07/2009 4:25:47 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne (vote them out!))
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To: moose2004

Told ya this was a done deal.


35 posted on 12/07/2009 4:26:56 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: cranked

Maine’s system is broke. That’s why Snowe is willing to vote for the Federal takeover. She’s wants the rest of us to bail out Maine. I absolutely despise these morons. Central planning of one-sixth of the American economy is what they’re forcing down our throats. Socialists are losing all over Europe because of the failure of their policies. And we’re hellbent on adopting them.

Republicans started all of this. George Bush made it acceptable for government to take over education and banks, to spend like there was no tomorrow, and to guarantee all kinds of benefits to people who are in the country illegally. He trashed the Republican brand more effectively than Richard Nixon ever did. And the Republican lemmings in Congress allowed him to do it. Now they’re bellyaching because the Democrats are taking over and extending everything they started.

How do we stop this madness?


36 posted on 12/07/2009 4:27:05 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: freespirited

I know things didn’t work for John and Judy but I have never understood what “Jock” saw in Olympia. I have known her longer then he has and I have never found her to be anything other than a really nasty bitch!


37 posted on 12/07/2009 4:27:18 PM PST by WellyP
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To: WashingtonSource

And then there is Sen Kyl of AZ who made some inane remark about not trying to stop this but trying to throw many amendments to the bill up against the wall to what..stone wall and get discussion going?
If the Resident cared at all what solutions others had to suggest would not have had a meeting behind closed doors with the jackasses only.
A pox on all of them.


38 posted on 12/07/2009 4:27:32 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: pabianice

I fail to see who the “gutless” conservatives are. All the conservatives are sticking together to oppose this, and Snowe has never been conservative. Sounds to me like the conservatives are standing their ground.


39 posted on 12/07/2009 4:28:01 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: oldironsides
One conservative in line to vote last November said “ if any of the Catholics voted pro life we would not see Casey or Obama types. They always break ranks.” I am sorry to say she was speaking the truth.

Yep. Got one in the family, and when this is brought up she gets very indignant and changes the subject. In that house, the Democrat party gets obedience while the Pope gets lip service.

Mr. niteowl77

40 posted on 12/07/2009 4:28:44 PM PST by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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To: LS

You’re wrong, read my previous post:

“One idea calls for national nonprofit insurance plans to be administered by the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees the popular Federal Employees Health Benefits Program.

The proposal seems to appeal to a key Republican, Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, who met with Obama at the White House on Saturday.

On Sunday, Snowe called the possible compromise “a positive development” because it would give consumers more options for buying insurance.

Snowe’s potential support for the Democratic-crafted bill is crucial. Supporters need 60 votes to overcome filibusters, and the chamber’s 40 Republicans hope to draw at least one Democrat to their side.

It could be Nelson, who says he will not support final passage of a health care bill unless it includes the tight abortion restrictions he wants. If so, Democrats would have to woo moderate Republicans such as Snowe.”

This idea is an absolute non-starter, just like the “trigger.” Liberal Dems will never support it. Also, I can’t find anything that says Snowe will vote for abortion funding in the bill.


41 posted on 12/07/2009 4:28:51 PM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: pabianice

42 posted on 12/07/2009 4:29:13 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: cranked

The problem is that our national elite, which imcludes many so-called conservatives like Cornyn, WANT this. because of the sheer power it puts into their hands. When they call Palin, who is really a moderate Conservative, a “populist,” as if she were Tom Watson dedux, you know what they are about. They are probaly going to get their way because Conservatives—in the end—will not fight hard enough, will not use all the weapons they have in their hands. They could delay this thing into January— though I doubt they will—and let public opinion kill it. But if that happened, there would hell to bear, and they don’t have the nerve.


43 posted on 12/07/2009 4:29:22 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: ColdOne

Not correct, anyone can be stopped. We have to be smart and do it through the ballot box!


44 posted on 12/07/2009 4:30:12 PM PST by WellyP
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To: WestSylvanian
How do we stop this madness?

Please let me know if/when you get an answer that works...This is pure insanity. Only 35% of the country supports this yet those that are supposed to represent us are going to do it anyway.

Stop this government...I want to get off!!!

45 posted on 12/07/2009 4:30:26 PM PST by IrishPennant (If you can accept losing, you can't win. ~ Vince Lombardi)
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To: indylindy

I think that quite a few people are getting very near to the breaking point.


46 posted on 12/07/2009 4:30:42 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: LS

One more point, whatever happened to the “compromise” Tom Carper said he was trying to reach with Snowe et. al? Didn’t hear anything did ya? Snowe wants a “trigger,” which many liberal Dems have said “no” to. Also, Snowe voted against Reid’s “compromise” bill which included a government run public option.


47 posted on 12/07/2009 4:32:03 PM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: ColdOne
These people are unstoppable.

Who's really trying to stop them? I think the GOP just figures it's going to help them in the next election cycle.

The Liberals have used lawyers to get them where they are, challenging every legal angle that didn't fit with their agenda. Why don't we have any lawyers? Why aren't we fighting in court against the czars, cap & trade, healthcare?

I don't even see us trying to slow them down. ; (

48 posted on 12/07/2009 4:32:10 PM PST by Kenny
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To: pabianice

Sorry, I don’t believe it. I’ve always felt Snowe was pretty mad at Harry Reid when he told her he would include the trigger and just as soon as she sided with him to vote the health care bill out of committee, he yanked the trigger out. I’d be surprised if Snowe wouldn’t insist the trigger be put back in for her vote.

If anyone saw Orin Hatch on Fox News today about Harry Reid’s remarks, Hatch said something towards the end that was rather interesting. He said that ALL the Republicans are incensed that they’ve been closed out of any type of negotiations and they are ALL united. He was pretty livid-even for Orin Hatch. I got the distinct impression that ALL actually met ALL. This would explain Reid’s meltdown today. He now has to get ALL Democrats to side with him.


49 posted on 12/07/2009 4:32:19 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: niteowl77

The question isn’t what WE would do , it asked what you THINK the COLONISTS would do !


50 posted on 12/07/2009 4:34:08 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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