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A Stability Police Force for the United States
Rand Corporation ^ | Several

Posted on 12/07/2009 5:22:42 PM PST by FromLori

Justification and Options for Creating U.S. Capabilities

Establishing security is the sine qua non of stability operations, since it is a prerequisite for reconstruction and development. Security requires a mix of military and police forces to deal with a range of threats from insurgents to criminal organizations. This research examines the creation of a high-end police force, which the authors call a Stability Police Force (SPF). The study considers what size force is necessary, how responsive it needs to be, where in the government it might be located, what capabilities it should have, how it could be staffed, and its cost. This monograph also considers several options for locating this force within the U.S. government, including the U.S. Marshals Service, the U.S. Secret Service, the Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs (INL) in the Department of State, and the U.S. Army's Military Police.

The authors conclude that an SPF containing 6,000 people — created in the U.S. Marshals Service and staffed by a “hybrid option,” in which SPF members are federal police officers seconded to federal, state, and local police agencies when not deployed — would be the most effective of the options considered. The SPF would be able to deploy in 30 days. The cost for this option would be $637.3 million annually, in FY2007 dollars.


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1 posted on 12/07/2009 5:22:42 PM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori

Yeah, no thanks.


2 posted on 12/07/2009 5:24:19 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: FromLori

Glad to see the Police State getting their Christmas wish list in order.


3 posted on 12/07/2009 5:24:39 PM PST by BGHater (America is a Kakistocracy.)
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To: FromLori

SS Troopers


4 posted on 12/07/2009 5:26:07 PM PST by Diggity
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To: FromLori

They are going to keep on until the people have to
take their freedom in their own hands.
It won’t be pretty.


5 posted on 12/07/2009 5:26:44 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: FromLori

We can handle it ourselves thanks.


6 posted on 12/07/2009 5:26:46 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: FromLori

Elite Federalized police. This is getting scary.


7 posted on 12/07/2009 5:26:49 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. " George Orwell)
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To: FromLori
Holy cow! Does the one know you are letting the cat out of the bag?
8 posted on 12/07/2009 5:27:36 PM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: FromLori
A preview:

Photobucket


9 posted on 12/07/2009 5:27:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: FromLori

“Civilian National Security Force”

Clever. Very clever. Someone should suggest that to the WH.........


10 posted on 12/07/2009 5:28:57 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: FromLori

would this be added to the civilian security force he so wants, the one which will match that of the military, just as well funded too.

We have a take over this country which has been planned for years and now they are in power we can kiss fair elections goodbye, we can kiss justice as we know it good bye.


11 posted on 12/07/2009 5:29:00 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: FromLori

Emperor bammy’s stormtroopers? Oh Yeah, that’ll end well.


12 posted on 12/07/2009 5:29:02 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: FromLori

You mean the Secret Service, NSA, CIA and FBI are not enough? Obama requires his own Gestapo???


13 posted on 12/07/2009 5:29:04 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: FromLori

Funny, our lack of a national police force was one of the reasons the Russians listed as a reason America could never be occupied.


14 posted on 12/07/2009 5:29:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: freedumb2003

15 posted on 12/07/2009 5:29:52 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: FromLori

Exclusive! The FBI Deputizes Business

16 posted on 12/07/2009 5:29:55 PM PST by BGHater (America is a Kakistocracy.)
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To: FromLori

..and they should wear black uniforms with distinctive red piping; with armbands, peaked hats, and high glossy leather boots. Officers should wear an assortment of badges and insignia that will serve to impress the populace being “stabilized”.

Or should they just dress like Judge Dredd?


17 posted on 12/07/2009 5:31:08 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority)
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To: FromLori

Posse Commitatus

The Posse Commitatus Act, while advisory and customary, is not equivalent to the Constitutional guarantee of border security to the several States. Further, the protections offered by Posse Commitatus, supposedly precluding the use of military force within the US are at best, illusory. I point you to USC Title X, Section 333( http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00000333——000-.html ):

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—

(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

So you see, Congress gave the President the police power with enormous latitude well over 100 years ago, Constitutional or not (IMO, not).


18 posted on 12/07/2009 5:31:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: An Old Man

You do realize, don’t you, that this report was commissioned by the US Army, and was issued nearly a year ago, under the Bush administration, right?


19 posted on 12/07/2009 5:31:52 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: FromLori

Oh please no more.


20 posted on 12/07/2009 5:32:09 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Race war.


21 posted on 12/07/2009 5:32:12 PM PST by MaxMax (Obamao can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: SandRat

Authors:

Terrence K. Kelly, Seth G. Jones, James E. Barnett, Keith Crane, Robert C. Davis, Carl Jensen


22 posted on 12/07/2009 5:32:21 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

the TOTUS-reader has truly accomplished something historical — he has reconciled fascism and socialism.


23 posted on 12/07/2009 5:32:44 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: bamahead; ExTexasRedhead

This is what they reccomend during the Christmas season? I can’t wait to see what they call for during Easter.


24 posted on 12/07/2009 5:32:50 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

http://www.bubbanosferatu.com/


25 posted on 12/07/2009 5:35:28 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Diggity
SS Troopers Target Practice
26 posted on 12/07/2009 5:36:05 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: freedumb2003

Not much of a reconciliation in my opinion.

Under socialism there is no pretense of private ownership. Under fascism, business is “privately owned” but does as government demands....or else.


27 posted on 12/07/2009 5:36:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
You do realize, don’t you, that this report was commissioned by the US Army

No, I did not. I would appreciate any links you may have so that I may learn more.

28 posted on 12/07/2009 5:36:36 PM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: FromLori

Just what we need in America. Another collection of jackbooted traitors to enforce tyranny and protect the Washington elite from the consequences of their unconstitutional conduct and actions.


29 posted on 12/07/2009 5:36:36 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: An Old Man

I bet I’m on a list most of us are just for going to tea parties.


30 posted on 12/07/2009 5:38:42 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: cripplecreek

>>Under socialism there is no pretense of private ownership. Under fascism, business is “privately owned” but does as government demands....or else.<<

And we now have both! And clearly, soon the shredded remnants of the 4th Amendment will be tossed onto the decaying bodies of the 9th and 10th.

The revolution WILL be televised.


31 posted on 12/07/2009 5:39:37 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: B-Chan
Good evening.

What happened to that thread you started this weekend? The one I commented on regarding the Posse Comitatus Act?

5.56mm

32 posted on 12/07/2009 5:40:52 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: FromLori

Are they going to wear red coats this time around too? I hope so. Easier to see.


33 posted on 12/07/2009 5:42:40 PM PST by geddylee
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To: FromLori
6,000 storm troopers. Yep, that size force will intimidate all of America.

That's about two storm troopers per US county.

There's about 36,000 sworn officers in the NYPD.

Just to keep things in perspective.

34 posted on 12/07/2009 5:42:51 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: FromLori
I often wonder if they have any idea of the size of the BUZZ SAW they will encounter should this nasty business come to fruition.
35 posted on 12/07/2009 5:43:29 PM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: FromLori
"The authors conclude that an SPF containing 6,000 people "

The authors are idiots. If the Feds create a "police force" like this, they're going to need a hell of a lot more than 6,000 people.

36 posted on 12/07/2009 5:44:08 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: An Old Man
Here's the PDF of the actual report

On the fourth page or so it says "The research described in this report was sponsored by the United States Army under Contract No. W74V8H-06-C-0001."

This page, which compiles Pentagon reports, shows the report date as January, 2009.

37 posted on 12/07/2009 5:45:17 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Czar; jesseam; No Surrender No Retreat; justiceseeker93; rodguy911; null and void; ZULU; exit82; ...

Hitler and his Gestapo come to mind along with the names Obama, Reid, Pelosi et al.

Never Again is here.


38 posted on 12/07/2009 5:47:00 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: FromLori

“range of threats from insurgents to criminal organizations”
OK start with the ones in DC and the Whitehouse


39 posted on 12/07/2009 5:47:06 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: randomhero97

They have much smaller, miniscule version of this, already in the bomb sniffing dogs that are paid for with fed grant money.

The agency gets to use the dog but if and when the feds say they need the dog, the dog and handler must report for duty.


40 posted on 12/07/2009 5:47:38 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry.")
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To: FromLori; Jim Robinson; dcwusmc; A Navy Vet; Jeff Head
Here it comes!!

We are now at CONDITION TWO. Cock and Lock!!!!

Revolution is brewing!

Toward FREEDOM!

41 posted on 12/07/2009 5:47:55 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member) 3%)
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To: FromLori

Stability Police Force (SPF).

NO I am against this 100, 000, 000%. They probably wouldn’t even have to be sworn to defent the Constitution!~


42 posted on 12/07/2009 5:50:22 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

43 posted on 12/07/2009 5:52:05 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Thanks for getting back so quickly.

From the cover sheet of the report:


Terrence K. Kelly, Seth G. Jones, James E. Barnett II,
Keith Crane, Robert C. Davis, Carl Jensen


Prepared for the United States Army

Anyone know who these people are?

44 posted on 12/07/2009 5:52:09 PM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: FromLori
6,000 is too small. It will only casue more unrest when deployed. The only way to make it work is Central America type death squads. Which of course this will be - eventually - after regular ops fail.
45 posted on 12/07/2009 5:53:26 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

I suppose they think if they start it small it won’t be noticed as much and then they can add on.


46 posted on 12/07/2009 5:55:34 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: mad_as_he$$

This sort of crap is why I like things to be as local as possible.

Schools were better under local control, congressmen and senators were better under local control, police are better under local control.


47 posted on 12/07/2009 5:55:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: FromLori

48 posted on 12/07/2009 5:55:51 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: FromLori

49 posted on 12/07/2009 5:55:58 PM PST by Signalman
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To: FromLori

Imagine how the leftists would screech at such a proposal during the Bush administration.


50 posted on 12/07/2009 5:57:09 PM PST by VR-21
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