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Why young-age creationism is good for science
Journal of Creation ^ | Brett W. Smith

Posted on 12/07/2009 7:30:12 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

The current treatment of young-age creationists in the scientific community and society at large is unfair and unwise. Scientists and philosophers of science, including old-age creationists and naturalists, should respect youngage creationists as legitimate contributors to science. Young-age creationists offer to the current origins science establishment a competing rational viewpoint that will augment fruitful scientific investigation through increased accountability for scientists, introduction of original hypotheses and general epistemic improvement...

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1 posted on 12/07/2009 7:30:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/07/2009 7:31:32 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Or to put it another way, in the marketplace of ideas, competition is a good thing, and unfair barriers to the same leads to poorer products for the consumer, and laziness amongst the monopolists. I see plenty of evidence for those phenomena.


3 posted on 12/07/2009 7:33:13 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

These threads deliver ^__^


4 posted on 12/07/2009 7:33:48 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Good Lord deliver us)
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To: GodGunsGuts

IBTkeywordspammers


5 posted on 12/07/2009 7:35:34 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Are you sure? I immediately looked up at the keywords after your IBT and guess what I found???


6 posted on 12/07/2009 7:39:40 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Keep up the good work, GGG.


7 posted on 12/07/2009 7:40:46 PM PST by rae4palin
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To: Liberty1970

>>Or to put it another way, in the marketplace of ideas, competition is a good thing, and unfair barriers to the same leads to poorer products for the consumer, and laziness amongst the monopolists. I see plenty of evidence for those phenomena.<<

Creationism is NOT a “competing idea” any more than astrology is a “competing idea” to astronomy.

It meets exactly zero scientific criteria.

It may have some currency in a philosophical/theological arena, but that isn’t where the so-called “debate” is occurring.

Neither creationism nor ID are science. To suggest they are is to purposely misrepresent science and the scientific method.

This takes it our of the “arena of ideas” and into the “arena of fraud.”


8 posted on 12/07/2009 7:45:06 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GodGunsGuts

YEC.... oooooo boy... one of these threads.


9 posted on 12/07/2009 7:45:34 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Liberty1970

Precisely, if more debate was allowed to occur withing what should be the free market of scientific ideas, the origins/historical sciences would benefit just as much as as any other scientific enterprise...that is, so long as the debate is not declared “over” by those who have an agenda that has as its object something other than the truth!


10 posted on 12/07/2009 7:46:19 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

FWIIW, I have never (that I can recall) added any keywords to your threads and certainly haven’t done so in this one — you can check with mods.


11 posted on 12/07/2009 7:46:43 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bogey78O

oooooo boy... one of these looney psuedo-science groupies pushing evolution....


12 posted on 12/07/2009 7:48:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts

>>that is, so long as the debate is not declared “over” by those who have an agenda that has as its object something other than the truth!<<

So you are cool with phrenology, astrology and alchemy participating in the “marketplace of scientific ideas,” right?


13 posted on 12/07/2009 7:49:24 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

Thanks, that is about the nicest thing you have ever said to me, FD! No need to check with the mods, I will take your word for it :o)


14 posted on 12/07/2009 7:50:28 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“by those who have an agenda that has as its object something other than the truth!”

Its easier to use its screen handle: freedumb. :o)


15 posted on 12/07/2009 7:50:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So this is a marketplace of ideas? Very well, then: if this is a marketplace, then I ain’t buyin’ this “young-age Earth” nonsense, which completely ignores what we know about radioactive age-dating.

There are limits to how idiotic people can be, and still expect to be accepted by serious researchers.

In this “marketplace of ideas,” I subscribe to the view that “young Earth” nuts should go jump in a lake.


16 posted on 12/07/2009 7:51:13 PM PST by docbnj
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To: editor-surveyor

Wait... now this thread is about evolution?

So who has an agenda now?


17 posted on 12/07/2009 7:52:34 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: editor-surveyor

>>oooooo boy... one of these looney psuedo-science groupies pushing evolution...<<

Quote the masochist, aren’t you? It is like “I DON’T UNDERSTAND SCIENCE SO I WILL KEEP EMPHASIZING THAT SO PEOPLE CAN PITY ME” in neon on your forehead.

If you have a SCIENTIFIC alternative to TToE that explains the BILLIONS of data, including MILLIONS of reproducible experiments and MILLIONS of observed examples — now is the time. Remember, if you can’t account for all of you have failed.

Meet the challenge or say goodnight Gracie.


18 posted on 12/07/2009 7:52:45 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
"So you are cool with evolution, phrenology, astrology and alchemy participating in the 'marketplace of scientific ideas,' right?"

Put them back in your toy box please!

19 posted on 12/07/2009 7:53:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: freedumb2003

How long do you think they would last if they threw their hat in the ring of the science? I should think that neither creationists or evolutionists have anything to fear from any of the long-since discredited disciplines you mentioned above.


20 posted on 12/07/2009 7:54:44 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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