Skip to comments.Audio: ďI donít want to have to kill this man, but Iíll kill him graveyard deadĒ
Posted on 12/08/2009 8:05:32 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
You've got to listen to this audio. It's terrible what this woman went through - she clearly has a hard time doing what had to be done - but it's also a sign of why it's a good thing the second amendment allows Americans to defend themselves and their property. The burglar was probably stoned and "crazy." He might have done terrible things to the woman if she wouldn't have stopped him.
This was the most obvious case of "self defense" if ever there was one.
Id call it a palate cleanser except that its too riveting and simply too sad for that. Not only is this poor woman put through the wringer, it sounds like the guy breaking in was out of his gourd: They didnt know each other, yet he was screaming threats and resorted to throwing patio furniture through the back door to get in. Reportedly, when the cops found his sister to let her know, she was so high she was nearly unconscious, so thats the theory for his behavior at the moment. No word yet on what he was on.
I hope the NYPD would have been as supportive as the dispatcher is at the end here, but New York aint Oklahoma, needless to say. Exit quotation from the sheriff: This was nothing more than a home invasion and Mrs. Jackson was defending herself.
Listen to the audio at Hot Air.
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Meth makes you lose your mind like that.
That poor woman!!!!
I listened to this yesterday. It took 20 minutes for cops to arrive. Thank goodness this woman was armed.
I hope this woman realizes that she didn’t kill him, he killed himself. I would have called 911 to report a dead man in my home
Kuddos to Oklahoma. Luv the “graveyard dead”
description. She was obviously a good shot....
When your life is being threatened, shoot first and call for clean up later....
Incredible. And the fact she remained so calm is amazing.
Alone out in the middle of nowhere. She had no choice.
I’ve walked my fiance through our break in scenario.
We both head to the same corner of the same room, facing out, she’s get’s the phone, I get the .357. (phone is located next to corner)
If she’s home by herself, gun then phone.
As I explained to her, searching for the bad guy from room to room may look good on tv, however, I much prefer letting the bad guy make the mistake of finding me.
No one should have regrets for defending themselves.
One of the things I have to explain is that there is a different time/distance/expectation here in the US than in Europe. At one point, I pulled out a map of US/Colorado, showed them where Denver was and traced the route eastward following I-70 till I got to Kansas City. I then told the small crowd that had gathered that that trip, taken by car and following the speed limits would have taken 8 hours minimum and more likely 10 hrs if you stopped for lunch or dinner. Their perception of a 10 hour drive at highway speeds 120 km/hr was that they would cross several countries.
I then told them that it often takes 15 to 20 min for the police to show up at your door. To which many simply could not believe me. The few that did believe me then understood that you could not simply wait till the cops arrived.
Michael, do you experience similar time/distance/expectation differences with your friends back in the Netherlands?
MUNCHKIN NO. 1
We thank you very sweetly
For doing it so neatly.
MUNCHKIN NO. 2
You’ve killed him so completely
That we thank you very sweetly.
“When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.”
Incredible clip. Thanks for posting. Prayers up and out to Mrs Donna Jackson for her comfort and assurance that she did the right thing.
That's the nice thing about shotguns, you don't have to be a good shot. Shotguns are designed to easily hit small, flying objects, 30 or more yards away. A large object, coming straight at you, from 10 or 20 feet away, is almost impossible to miss.
Even a small shotgun, loaded with birdshot, can easily be fatal from that range.
In this case, 20 of them. :-)
The Lady should be given a medal ... for preventing future mayhem and perhaps horrific death to others this freak would victimize in his drug-induced future.
#5 or larger pellets for home defense loads, nothing smaller. Better to clean-up the mess than be carried by six.
Amazed she remained so calm?
What effect to you think was had by her knowledge that she could neutralize the threat with the twitch of a finger?
No gun- no calm.
She was calm...but my heart breaks for her at the end when she did what she had to do and is overwhelmed with remorse and praying for forgiveness...
Poor lady...I hope she can fall back on the Peace that Passeth Understanding.
Once the majority of our basic rights are stolen from us how many will be left standing willing and able to apply the 2nd Amendment for what its true purpose is? I fear that by that time there will be far too few left to save our nation.
That's if you are planning for home defense. If you are improvising with sporting equipment, it will still work. Anyone who is used to shooting birds, can hit a face from 10 or 20 feet, every time. There's a small chance that it will not be fatal, but the perp will be doing nothing else, for a very long time.
That's a kill.
Oh man, graveyard dead is the worst kind of dead. Theres no recovering from that.
“As I explained to her, searching for the bad guy from room to room may look good on tv, however, I much prefer letting the bad guy make the mistake of finding me.”
Excellent point, I prefer the bathroom (with firearm and phone), lock the door, get in tub, dial 911 and WAIT. The tub offers some protection (cast iron would be great) and the locked door requires forced entry (when that happens identify your target and FIRE) .
I would hate like heck to be the recipient even of No. 7 out of my little 20 ga. Stoeger coach gun. And after lots of practice, I can actually get 2 more shells in it tout suite. Nothing like working against the clock to get that reload drill down . . . but if I had my choice I'd haul out the 12 ga Rem 870 or the 20 ga Rem 1148 and stuff some No. 3 or 4 down it.
You know what, that’s a great example of why many Europeans don’t understand Americans and the American ‘gun culture.’ Most of us don’t understand just how big the US really is. We think it’s big, we know it is, but most have no idea how big it truly is. The idea that you live somewhere and you have to travel, say, an hour before seeing another house, or at least a small village; that’s too much for most europeans (let alone 10 hours to the nearest major city).
I’ve found that if I explain the situation to them as you just did (as well), they almost have a revelation.’
That explanation also works, by the way, when you want to explain political stuff to them and Americans’ love for small government. Tell a European “OK, what if Brussels said it wanted to create a health care system for all EU-states, whether you like your system as it currently is in the Netherlands, doesn’t matter, and you’ll have to pay for those in Bulgaria?”
The answer: “Heck no!”
why can’t we build phones into guns? one less item to have to locate.
Scary stuff. I live in a fairly rural area with little crime, but I still worry over my wife when I’m on business travel. I have a loaded 12 gauge on both levels of our townhouse, and told my wife to use the tools if she needed to.
That is a good idea! My son has a tiny tracfone that I pay $20 every three months and it give me 60 minutes each time and they just keep accumulating. He only uses it for in case of emergencies or when he needs me to pick him up from somewhere. One could easily duct tape this little phone to shotgun!!
I don't care if she had a howitzer hidden behind the door. Even with a maniac screaming and breaking down a door to get to her, yes, amazing that she remained calm.
Or better yet, have it attached with velcro! Have an earphone plugged in to it, one of those kinds with the mic in the cord that is actually made for cellphones, you know? Keep the phone velcroed to gun, keep the phone plugged in nearby. After securing the situation, you could easily remove the phone and continue talking without carrying the gun around.
Total hands-free communication and security at the same time.
Wow...Lord help this lady!
Did you hear the whole thing? It goes on for like 20-30 minutes!
I listened to the video on the thread. But I listened to this one too. Oh my...
I do hope you'll update that plan when/if you have kids.
We’re both on the other side of 50.
Not an issue.
amazing audio. A lesson on police response time and how each of us are ultimately responsible to be prepared to defend ourselves. May God grant peace to this brave lady.