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Audio: ďI donít want to have to kill this man, but Iíll kill him graveyard deadĒ
Hot Air ^ | 8 December, 2009 | AllahPundit

Posted on 12/08/2009 8:05:32 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

You've got to listen to this audio. It's terrible what this woman went through - she clearly has a hard time doing what had to be done - but it's also a sign of why it's a good thing the second amendment allows Americans to defend themselves and their property. The burglar was probably stoned and "crazy." He might have done terrible things to the woman if she wouldn't have stopped him.

This was the most obvious case of "self defense" if ever there was one.

I’d call it a palate cleanser except that it’s too riveting and simply … too sad for that. Not only is this poor woman put through the wringer, it sounds like the guy breaking in was out of his gourd: They didn’t know each other, yet he was screaming threats and resorted to throwing patio furniture through the back door to get in. Reportedly, when the cops found his sister to let her know, she was so high she was nearly unconscious, so that’s the theory for his behavior at the moment. No word yet on what he was on.

I hope the NYPD would have been as supportive as the dispatcher is at the end here, but New York ain’t Oklahoma, needless to say. Exit quotation from the sheriff: “This was nothing more than a home invasion and Mrs. Jackson was defending herself.”

Listen to the audio at Hot Air.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 911; bloggersandpersonal; noob; selfdefense

1 posted on 12/08/2009 8:05:32 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

Meth makes you lose your mind like that.


2 posted on 12/08/2009 8:08:19 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

That poor woman!!!!


3 posted on 12/08/2009 8:09:21 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

I listened to this yesterday. It took 20 minutes for cops to arrive. Thank goodness this woman was armed.


4 posted on 12/08/2009 8:11:06 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Michael van der Galien

I hope this woman realizes that she didn’t kill him, he killed himself. I would have called 911 to report a dead man in my home


5 posted on 12/08/2009 8:14:12 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: vladimir998

Kuddos to Oklahoma. Luv the “graveyard dead”
description. She was obviously a good shot....


6 posted on 12/08/2009 8:14:29 AM PST by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..........)
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To: Michael van der Galien

When your life is being threatened, shoot first and call for clean up later....


7 posted on 12/08/2009 8:14:35 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Incredible. And the fact she remained so calm is amazing.


8 posted on 12/08/2009 8:14:51 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obamacare should cover lobotomies for Democrats)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Alone out in the middle of nowhere. She had no choice.


9 posted on 12/08/2009 8:16:51 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: vladimir998

I’ve walked my fiance through our break in scenario.

We both head to the same corner of the same room, facing out, she’s get’s the phone, I get the .357. (phone is located next to corner)

If she’s home by herself, gun then phone.

As I explained to her, searching for the bad guy from room to room may look good on tv, however, I much prefer letting the bad guy make the mistake of finding me.


10 posted on 12/08/2009 8:18:06 AM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

No one should have regrets for defending themselves.


11 posted on 12/08/2009 8:20:33 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Michael van der Galien
I often travel to Europe and have had the opportunity to spend 6 months in Amsterdam as part of my work. I often get into conversations with the locals who do not understand the “gun culture” here in the US.

One of the things I have to explain is that there is a different time/distance/expectation here in the US than in Europe. At one point, I pulled out a map of US/Colorado, showed them where Denver was and traced the route eastward following I-70 till I got to Kansas City. I then told the small crowd that had gathered that that trip, taken by car and following the speed limits would have taken 8 hours minimum and more likely 10 hrs if you stopped for lunch or dinner. Their perception of a 10 hour drive at highway speeds 120 km/hr was that they would cross several countries.

I then told them that it often takes 15 to 20 min for the police to show up at your door. To which many simply could not believe me. The few that did believe me then understood that you could not simply wait till the cops arrived.

Michael, do you experience similar time/distance/expectation differences with your friends back in the Netherlands?

12 posted on 12/08/2009 8:21:59 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Michael van der Galien

MUNCHKIN NO. 1
We thank you very sweetly
For doing it so neatly.

MUNCHKIN NO. 2
You’ve killed him so completely
That we thank you very sweetly.


13 posted on 12/08/2009 8:22:24 AM PST by albie
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To: vladimir998

“When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.”


14 posted on 12/08/2009 8:24:21 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Michael van der Galien

Incredible clip. Thanks for posting. Prayers up and out to Mrs Donna Jackson for her comfort and assurance that she did the right thing.


15 posted on 12/08/2009 8:24:31 AM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: murrie
She was obviously a good shot....

That's the nice thing about shotguns, you don't have to be a good shot. Shotguns are designed to easily hit small, flying objects, 30 or more yards away. A large object, coming straight at you, from 10 or 20 feet away, is almost impossible to miss.

Even a small shotgun, loaded with birdshot, can easily be fatal from that range.

16 posted on 12/08/2009 8:26:14 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Lancey Howard
“When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.”

In this case, 20 of them. :-)

17 posted on 12/08/2009 8:27:13 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: DonaldC

The Lady should be given a medal ... for preventing future mayhem and perhaps horrific death to others this freak would victimize in his drug-induced future.


18 posted on 12/08/2009 8:29:00 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: 3niner

#5 or larger pellets for home defense loads, nothing smaller. Better to clean-up the mess than be carried by six.


19 posted on 12/08/2009 8:31:07 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Amazed she remained so calm?

What effect to you think was had by her knowledge that she could neutralize the threat with the twitch of a finger?

No gun- no calm.


20 posted on 12/08/2009 8:34:18 AM PST by getitright (Are you hoping to change back yet?)
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To: getitright

She was calm...but my heart breaks for her at the end when she did what she had to do and is overwhelmed with remorse and praying for forgiveness...

Poor lady...I hope she can fall back on the Peace that Passeth Understanding.


21 posted on 12/08/2009 8:39:00 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: MHGinTN
I used to think that in order to make the US into a socialist country that the first thing to go would be the 2nd Amendment. However, as I see things going today I am beginning to think that they are purposely saving that for last.

Once the majority of our basic rights are stolen from us how many will be left standing willing and able to apply the 2nd Amendment for what its true purpose is? I fear that by that time there will be far too few left to save our nation.

22 posted on 12/08/2009 8:40:16 AM PST by mtdrake
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To: MHGinTN
#5 or larger pellets for home defense loads, nothing smaller.

That's if you are planning for home defense. If you are improvising with sporting equipment, it will still work. Anyone who is used to shooting birds, can hit a face from 10 or 20 feet, every time. There's a small chance that it will not be fatal, but the perp will be doing nothing else, for a very long time.

23 posted on 12/08/2009 8:41:50 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: 3niner
This is a target hit by several rounds from a 20 gauge shotgun loaded with birdshot. The range was about 10 yards.

That's a kill.

24 posted on 12/08/2009 8:47:01 AM PST by CholeraJoe (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Oh man, graveyard dead is the worst kind of dead. Theres no recovering from that.


25 posted on 12/08/2009 8:47:09 AM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Our government is turning on this country like a parasite turns on it's host.)
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To: stylin_geek

“As I explained to her, searching for the bad guy from room to room may look good on tv, however, I much prefer letting the bad guy make the mistake of finding me.”

Excellent point, I prefer the bathroom (with firearm and phone), lock the door, get in tub, dial 911 and WAIT. The tub offers some protection (cast iron would be great) and the locked door requires forced entry (when that happens identify your target and FIRE) .


26 posted on 12/08/2009 8:53:12 AM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: 3niner
While a shotgun is not a magic device . . . believe me I have missed plenty of clay birds and cowboy targets . . . anybody who's a decent shot at Sporting Clays or Cowboy Action will have no trouble hitting an intruder at typical indoor distances.

I would hate like heck to be the recipient even of No. 7 out of my little 20 ga. Stoeger coach gun. And after lots of practice, I can actually get 2 more shells in it tout suite. Nothing like working against the clock to get that reload drill down . . . but if I had my choice I'd haul out the 12 ga Rem 870 or the 20 ga Rem 1148 and stuff some No. 3 or 4 down it.

27 posted on 12/08/2009 8:53:28 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: taxcontrol

You know what, that’s a great example of why many Europeans don’t understand Americans and the American ‘gun culture.’ Most of us don’t understand just how big the US really is. We think it’s big, we know it is, but most have no idea how big it truly is. The idea that you live somewhere and you have to travel, say, an hour before seeing another house, or at least a small village; that’s too much for most europeans (let alone 10 hours to the nearest major city).

I’ve found that if I explain the situation to them as you just did (as well), they almost have a revelation.’

That explanation also works, by the way, when you want to explain political stuff to them and Americans’ love for small government. Tell a European “OK, what if Brussels said it wanted to create a health care system for all EU-states, whether you like your system as it currently is in the Netherlands, doesn’t matter, and you’ll have to pay for those in Bulgaria?”

The answer: “Heck no!”


28 posted on 12/08/2009 8:59:06 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
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To: stylin_geek

why can’t we build phones into guns? one less item to have to locate.


29 posted on 12/08/2009 9:05:38 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Scary stuff. I live in a fairly rural area with little crime, but I still worry over my wife when I’m on business travel. I have a loaded 12 gauge on both levels of our townhouse, and told my wife to use the tools if she needed to.


30 posted on 12/08/2009 9:18:53 AM PST by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is a good idea! My son has a tiny tracfone that I pay $20 every three months and it give me 60 minutes each time and they just keep accumulating. He only uses it for in case of emergencies or when he needs me to pick him up from somewhere. One could easily duct tape this little phone to shotgun!!

http://www.tracfone.com/phone_details.jsp?model=PCTFC139_EN


31 posted on 12/08/2009 9:18:59 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: mtdrake
The current strategy of the obamamunists is to destroy the American economy and thus pin out nation to a world economic system and a new world currency. When the collapse these bastards are orchestrating happens, the mayhem and chaos will mean having fire arms for home defense will be paramount to survival as the feral criminal element increases with scarcities.
32 posted on 12/08/2009 9:28:04 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: getitright
What effect to you think was had by her knowledge that she could neutralize the threat with the twitch of a finger?

I don't care if she had a howitzer hidden behind the door. Even with a maniac screaming and breaking down a door to get to her, yes, amazing that she remained calm.

33 posted on 12/08/2009 9:31:26 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obamacare should cover lobotomies for Democrats)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Or better yet, have it attached with velcro! Have an earphone plugged in to it, one of those kinds with the mic in the cord that is actually made for cellphones, you know? Keep the phone velcroed to gun, keep the phone plugged in nearby. After securing the situation, you could easily remove the phone and continue talking without carrying the gun around.

Total hands-free communication and security at the same time.


34 posted on 12/08/2009 9:35:10 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: Michael van der Galien

Wow...Lord help this lady!


35 posted on 12/08/2009 9:36:50 AM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: LadyPilgrim

Did you hear the whole thing? It goes on for like 20-30 minutes!

http://www.newsok.com/woman-shoots-and-kills-intruder-in-lincoln-county/article/3422498?custom_click=pod_headline_crime


36 posted on 12/08/2009 9:43:20 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom

I listened to the video on the thread. But I listened to this one too. Oh my...
Thanks. :-)


37 posted on 12/08/2009 9:50:56 AM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: stylin_geek
As I explained to her, searching for the bad guy from room to room may look good on tv, however, I much prefer letting the bad guy make the mistake of finding me.

I do hope you'll update that plan when/if you have kids.

38 posted on 12/08/2009 9:57:38 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

We’re both on the other side of 50.

Not an issue.


39 posted on 12/08/2009 10:32:54 AM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Michael van der Galien; DaveLoneRanger

amazing audio. A lesson on police response time and how each of us are ultimately responsible to be prepared to defend ourselves. May God grant peace to this brave lady.


40 posted on 12/08/2009 10:39:32 AM PST by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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