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Gate-crashers to take the Fifth if subpoenaed
Associated Press ^ | Dec.8, 2009 | EILEEN SULLIVAN

Posted on 12/08/2009 4:09:32 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House gate-crashers plan to invoke their Fifth Amendment rights and refuse to testify if they are subpoenaed to appear on Capitol Hill about the security breach.

Reality TV hopefuls Michaele and Tareq Salahi said through their lawyer on Tuesday that the House Homeland Security Committee has drawn premature conclusions about the Nov. 24 incident, when they were able to get into the state dinner without being on an approved guest list.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conartists; desireespals; diplomaticincident; fakepolocharity; gatecrashers; gatecrashgate; homelandsecurity; partycrashers; salahi; salahis; securitybreach; statedinner

1 posted on 12/08/2009 4:09:32 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Would the Patriot Act apply as this incident would relate to national security?


2 posted on 12/08/2009 4:10:51 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Frankly, they should be charged with trespassing at the minimum.
3 posted on 12/08/2009 4:11:54 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If they are truthful it will sound something like this, “I refuse to answer on the grounds that my answer may incriminate someone in the 0bama administration.”


4 posted on 12/08/2009 4:16:09 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
We first met Barak at Occidental college during his gay phase......errr I take the 5th! Ooops!
5 posted on 12/08/2009 4:18:18 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

6 posted on 12/08/2009 4:19:25 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
"Frankly, they should be charged with trespassing at the minimum. "

Virtually impossible to convict on trespassing. It's not like they jumped the gate, they walked in through the front door, announced their arrival as themselves and the Secret Service, and perhaps an Obama aide, let them in.

The only thing that perhaps they could get pinched for is lying to a federal agent. Of course, that lie has to come during the course of an official investigation. I suppose a US Attorney could argue that the investigation was at the gate when the Federal Agent was determining if they were on the guest list. It's a stretch, to say the least.

7 posted on 12/08/2009 4:19:32 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

They need to get them on something. It has become rather a thorn on the Secret Service side.


8 posted on 12/08/2009 4:20:57 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“aide”

Aide? Rogers was doing a diva routine. So.....who was it? Michelle or 0bama?


9 posted on 12/08/2009 4:24:18 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
"They need to get them on something."

I know. It's tough though. There's not much in the US Code about "criminal mischief" or "disturbing the peace" or even "disorderly conduct", those are all state violations.

The fact of the matter is they didn't really cause any commotion while they were there - no disorder, no mischief and no disturbance. It's going to take a very enterprising prosecutor, and a very gullible judge to make anything stick.

10 posted on 12/08/2009 4:26:14 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I pretty sure that there is pressure on the Department of Justise to get rid of this problem.


11 posted on 12/08/2009 4:27:40 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: OldDeckHand
"The only thing that perhaps they could get pinched for is lying to a federal agent. Of course, that lie has to come during the course of an official investigation. I suppose a US Attorney could argue..."

The Federal Agency has to be able to prove that they lied to the agent. This sound like a "he said/she said" deal to me and the only way that you could prove they lied is to get them to take a polygraph examination. Do you think they would voluntarily take such an examination?

Don't misunderstand me; I think they are lying too (but how does the Federal Government prove it?

12 posted on 12/08/2009 4:29:40 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit." Ellen Ripley, Aliens 1986)
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To: OldDeckHand
I can't shake the notion that this was a publicity stunt that the WH might have created.

Please, anyone, feel free to correct me if my hunch is clearly in error.

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13 posted on 12/08/2009 4:31:28 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: ConservaTexan

Maybe they bought their way in. If so, the administration wouldn’t want to start answering questions about a money trail.


14 posted on 12/08/2009 4:35:21 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Friend_from_the_Frozen_North
"This sound like a "he said/she said" deal to me and the only way that you could prove they lied is to get them to take a polygraph examination."

Well, polygraphs aren't admissible in any US court of law. But, the crime of "lying to a federal officer" (covered in 18 USC § 1001 Statements or entries generally), frequently comes down to a he/said-she/said. It's the federal government that usually wins that argument.

Having said that, I would be shocked beyond belief if they actually pursued such an indictment, and even more shocked if it bore fruit in court.

15 posted on 12/08/2009 4:39:38 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

heh heh heh ..... zero’s been punked


16 posted on 12/08/2009 4:42:03 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Seaplaner
"I can't shake the notion that this was a publicity stunt that the WH might have created."

I don't see the political benefit to Obama in having a security detail and events planning staff that look incompetent.

I'm guessing that they just want this to go away.

17 posted on 12/08/2009 4:42:22 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
WHY do "they need to get them on something" ?
18 posted on 12/08/2009 4:51:10 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

They know they committed a crime by taking the Fifth Amendment.


19 posted on 12/08/2009 4:56:58 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: umgud

Whoa! Is that Carnak the Magnificent to Bambi’s left?


20 posted on 12/08/2009 5:00:38 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: sonofstrangelove
Your wording indicates you have already hung them for treason.

Why not a couple of people over (a little too many?) drinks look at each other simultaneously and ask ... "Hey ... y'know what would be REALLY neat ....... ?"

zero's been punked ... that's all it is.

21 posted on 12/08/2009 5:05:41 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

They embarrased the Secret Service by getting through their security. I am willing to bet that the Secret Service is looking very carefully at their background for something to get them on.


22 posted on 12/08/2009 5:07:37 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: knarf

They know they are in deep trouble and that is why they took the Fifth Amendment today.


23 posted on 12/08/2009 5:11:27 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: knarf

The Secret Service is currently conducting a criminal investigation into the security breach; charges have yet to be referred for prosecution

http://www.startribune.com/politics/78811047.html


24 posted on 12/08/2009 5:14:28 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Seaplaner
I can't shake the notion that this was a publicity stunt that the WH might have created.

You're right. I see some psychiatric problems with this stunt also, stemming from no BC, ACORN vote fraud, illegitimate presidency, sort of a original trespasser in a photo op with new trespassers.

25 posted on 12/08/2009 5:42:59 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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