Black Gangs Vented Hatred For Whites In Downtown Attacks

TheDenverChannel.com ^ | 2009.12.5 | Alan Gathright

[Tench_Coxe]

"Does the regular terrorist hunting license apply to these subhuman animals?"

Not the legal ones.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

“Must be some sort of innate jungle tribal instinct just too difficult for their race to overcome.”
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~~~DUMASS STATEMENT!!!~~~

Put down the brush,,,

Some areas of some cities ?,,,Yes,,,

Nasty places,,,

DON’T LIKE BLACK MILITARY!!!...

[Windflier]

More young black men die being shot by other young black men than die being shot by cops or civilians of any other race.

My own theory on this briefly - the deliberate devaluation of human life by liberals.

You've hit the nail right on the head. No people are innately so self-destructive. The pathology of crime and violence among the black population has been purposely indoctrinated into them by the hard left.

The massive deceit that has been perpetrated upon black Americans by the left is nothing short of genocide. Through decades of forced mis-information, a concerted effort to destroy the educational standards of blacks in general, the imposition of massive government intrusions in the way of welfare programs, affirmative action, housing assistance, and the promotion of the concept of "multi-culturalism", blacks have been been nearly destroyed as a people.

The effort, all along, has been to cause blacks to individuate themselves from the mainstream American culture, and to foster among them a strongly agreed-upon mindset of failure, hopelessness, disability, and victimhood status. The result is a broken, dysfunctional subset of the the population that can be easily manipulated for nefarious purposes.

It's diabolical. Pure evil, through and through. I thank my lucky stars that I am one of the few who managed to escape it.

[Windflier]

That's what so ticks me off--these people think they deserve RESPECT for such cowardly acts?

I don't think these thugs are looking for what you and I think of as "respect". Their concept of respect is limited to causing fear in their perceived enemies. Unless you've known some of these personalities, you cannot understand how depraved they are. I'm talking worthless - beyond redemption.

That being said, it took dedicated leftists a lot of hard work, and decades to produce this monster class of "humans".

[Windflier]

Like I said, the type of people you’re describing are beyond redemption. They’ve sunk so low as beings, that there’s almost no humanity left in them. They’re not far from being animals, in truth. You would not believe how incapable of feeling these people are.

Even the most rabid liberal is miles above these people in the thinking department. We’re talking collapsed souls here.

[whatisthetruth]

This sort of gangster thuggery has plagued the black community for a very long time, and in much greater depth than it has on the rest of the culture. You don't hear about the atrocities that occur in "the hood" too often, but there's a near epidemic of violence occurring there.

Offended you how and why? Then why don't one of you explain the reasons why YOUR above quote rings true. I merely gave one possible conjecture about it, pls enlighten as to yours.

Btw I might add Alan Keyes, Walt Williams, Larry Elder, Ken Hamblin, Rev. James Manning, Jesse Lee Peterson, Ken Blackwell to your list. I have no doubt there's others.

Unfortunately these few good black folk pales in comparison to the 96% of Blacks that voted for the Marxist-In-Chief Maobama. Something is seriously wrong with the Black race in general.

[BIGLOOK]

"I hate you f---ing white people,"

Objection! Hearsay.....irrelevant.

[Windflier]

Offended you how and why? I merely gave one possible conjecture about it, pls enlighten as to yours.

Don't play dumb. Your statement below is a demeaning generality, and you know it.

Must be some sort of innate jungle tribal instinct just too difficult for their race to overcome.

The statement is highly invalidative, and racist on its face. It's too late for you to try the intellectual route. You insulted an entire race of people, not unlike what the thugs in the story above did.

As for my thoughts, experiences, and feelings on the matter, they're detailed in several posts upthread.

[fr_freak]

It used to bug me that white people seemed to ridge up when I'd approach them. Even in my professional adult life, I've had to deal with that reaction, which always melts as soon as I begin talking. I've had to be discerning, myself.

I appreciate the fact that you get caught in the middle, as do all respectable black Americans, where you often get regarded as if you might be one of the thugs just because you share the skin color, but before you condemn white people for being overly suspicious, you have to remember that white people also get it from both sides - white people get assaulted by black people, but they're not allowed to be afraid or suspicious of black people, and if white people want to help the black community, they get called racist for pointing out any problems.

The PC in this country is so ridiculous that employers are afraid to fire a black man who habitually sleeps on the job (this actually happened in a place I worked). If a black man punches a white guy, it was because of oppression. If a white guy punches a black guy, it's a hate crime with special enhancements and media character assassination. All of the racial meddling and engineering by the government has made the problem far worse.

I've known a lot of black people over the years, and with some, I've tried to make the conservative points to them, and make them understand that Uncle Sucker will only make things worse, not better, but no matter what facts I bring or what logic I use, I generally get dismissed outright, because, as a white man, I couldn't possibly understand. Nothing I say means anything to them solely because of my race. Yet, at the same time, I, and every other white person, are held responsible for every problem the black community has. Blacks kill whites and its whitey's fault. Blacks kill blacks and it's whitey's fault. If whites try to correct the situation, it's racism.

Quite the predicament we're all in, eh?

[B-Chan]

I appreciate that you're offended. This subject is intrinsically offensive. But if we don't honestly address the offensive realities of race relations in America verbally, we in this nation will eventually be forced to address them physically.

That being said, I wonder if you could address the point under contention: namely, that some sort of "tribal instinct" lies at the root of the problems blacks have in every part of the world. There must be some reason that Detroit, East St. Louis, and Africa are hellholes, after all. Would you care to speculate on that reason, or do we have to stop talking about this now because you've become offended?

[jurroppi1]

My G30 with an extremely small barrel seems to be accurate enough at 75 feet and I don’t practice a lot. The first time I shot it I hit a cigarette pack at 30 paces, so I think the guy with the G32 would stand a pretty good chance. I’ve shot a similar .357 to the one in the picture upthread (eerily similar actually) and it was really nice and accurate (probably more so than my G30 mind you, but my old man won several trophies with it so I would expect it to be accurate).

That said, a .357 with JHPs is certainly a force to be reckoned with - very intense indeed! I’ve never had my Glock jam though - even having not cleaned it before I shot the last several mags worth of ammo through it.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

“Must be some sort of innate jungle tribal instinct just too difficult for their race to overcome.”
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All can see what you posted,,,

I stand by my post...

[Windflier]

...before you condemn white people for being overly suspicious, you have to remember that white people also get it from both sides - white people get assaulted by black people, but they're not allowed to be afraid or suspicious of black people....

I hope you didn't think that I condemn (some) white people for exhibiting suspicion when meeting me. I didn't mean to communicate that. They're reaction is completely understandable, given the horrific and unrelenting parade of negative stories about blacks they're exposed to.

Something that you may not have thought of, is that a lot of blacks also have the same reaction to unknown black males, in certain circumstances. Oh yes, I do understand the reaction.

...and if white people want to help the black community, they get called racist for pointing out any problems.

Helluva state of affairs, isn't it? If it makes you feel any better, just know that any conservative black person would get the same reaction, if they tried to point out the real problems and causes for failure in the black community. Heck man, we're absolutely reviled by many blacks.

Friend, we're almost going to have to see a complete breakdown of the social order for most blacks to unstick themselves from the solid training patterns they've been indoctrinated into.

I've often thought that I'll be at great risk if the country ever breaks out in wholesale revolution. It wouldn't take much excitement for one of my brothers in arms to pick me off because they've mistaken me for the enemy.

...no matter what facts I bring or what logic I use, I generally get dismissed outright, because, as a white man, I couldn't possibly understand.

Baloney. Any sentient being with the power to observe and process information can analyze a situation, even if they're not directly affected by it. That's a specious argument, and the people who tell you that, know it.

It's a rotten state of affairs, my friend. Unfortunately, people who've been indoctrinated into their "otherness", and who have been trained to individuate themselves from the mainstream tend to think this way. Thank God that I wasn't raised with that mindset. My parents never built that fence around me, and never allowed anyone else to do it, either.

[whatisthetruth]

The statement is highly invalidative, and racist on its face

Well I read your posts and as typical with most blacks there you go using the race card. Well it doesn't work with me, and I don't buy your excuses for blacks, are you saying whites are superior to blacks, that blacks are too dumb to see what whites are doing to them, if whites take drugs into the black communities, the blacks don't have to take it.

Black people have every opportunity to reject what their liberal masters dictate to them, but they don't, they instead 'prefer' to embrace the 'blame and hate white folks card' for their problems, it is not white folks' fault, blacks have no one to blame but themselves, and until they are willing to confront and address what that really is, the jury will remain out somewhere in the speculative field on just what exactly is their problem, until then degeneracy and widespread violence amongst their numbers will only continue to rise out of proportion to other races.

Are black Americans victimized – or cursed?

[blackbart.223]

"I’ve never had my Glock jam though - even having not cleaned it before I shot the last several mags worth of ammo through it."

Some of my friends own Glocks so I have had the opportunity to fire one. For some reason I just can't get used to them. Maybe because I'm used to the 1911A1. When something works for you it is hard to change I suppose.

[rae4palin]

Is there a city in America with a large black population that isn’t a crap-hole?

[whatisthetruth]

I stand by my post...

Your post does little to rebut my hypothesis, so I guess I will stand by my post also.

[JillValentine]

I’d love to try one of those guns. I know it’s kind of weird for a girl to like that stuff, but I’m not a typical girl.

Where would that be available? Nevada, perhaps?

[RegulatorCountry]

Tossing out “tribalism” is a collective condemnation. On the whole, black people in the United States have never been allowed to develop a successful social structure. The closest they’ve come was in the “parallel downtowns” of segregated cities, not that forced segregation was right, but there was a merchant class, a professional class, upward mobility and standards of behavior that were upheld.

A wrongheaded approach to desegregation resulted in the destruction of these areas, which were deemed “blighted” and replaced for the most part with federally subsidized structures, bleak public housing, and other visible signs, of the apparatus of dependence. Every leftist effort to “help” since, has encouraged and furthered that dependence. No standards of behavior have been allowed to stand, they’ve been undermined.

Substance abuse, popularized by and defended by the left. Sexual promiscuity, forced into the public eye and made acceptable by the left. Affirmative action, leading to the elevation of black women over black men in the extreme, plus the derogation of marriage has relegated black men almost to the role of bedouin sperm donors ... on and on, it’s been absolutely poisonous, so much so that the Democrats of old, the segregationists and the Klan, couldn’t have destroyed black males more thoroughly if they’d never stopped being segregationist Klan.

That’s what is offensive about a sweeping generalization. Every people has some degree of “tribal” impulse, we seem hardwired for it. People generally trust and associate with those most like themselves, and begin to venture beyond that once a level of comfort and security in society is reached. We’ve seen this occur with every large wave of immigration, of people distinctive enough to have ever been considered “other,” for however brief or lengthy a time.

So long as this association, or the lack of it, is free of force, then there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. It’s a choice, and it’s human nature. Forcing separation, and then imagining that forcing no separation repairs the past, was the genuine fool’s errand. Layer upon layer of force in the opposite direction, layer upon layer of attempts to equalize outcomes with the removal of consequence and the removal of reward, has compounded the problem, to the point that a large number of the black male population in many cities, verges upon becoming feral. There’s no penalty for it, and pop culture glorifies it.

And so, here we are.

[Windflier]

I wonder if you could address the point under contention: namely, that some sort of "tribal instinct" lies at the root of the problems blacks have in every part of the world.

People like me put the lie to the "tribal instinct" theory. If you want to test that theory, go live in the black community for a couple of years and really get to know people. You'll find out what a complete, and destructive lie that is.

I won't deny that black communities (and nations) everywhere in the world are basically dysfunctional. As far as I can determine, this degraded state of being among blacks has been intentionally caused by malevolent forces. Mostly of the leftist variety.

Blacks who aren't born into the confines of these decrepit communities are totally unlike those they share skin color with. They're more mainstream, and most consider themselves as Americans first, with their race only being of secondary importance.

There isn't a "failure gene", or a "tribal instinct" at work here. What there is, is aculturation and indoctrination from a young age, that sets in place a certain mindset.

This is precisely why I refused to allow my own children to be born in, or to be raised in a monolithic black community. There's a contagion of aberration there that I'm unwilling to allow them to be exposed to.

When I was a youngster, I knew a few white families that never left with the rest of the "white flight". I went to school with some of those kids, and they were alculturated nearly identically to the rest of the kids in the neighborhood. Even their speaking voices were identical to the rest of the community. They knew they were "different", but the black community was all they knew. They fit in pretty well, in that day and age. The boys of one family (the Hubers) were all successively stars on our high school football team.