Black Gangs Vented Hatred For Whites In Downtown Attacks

TheDenverChannel.com ^ | 2009.12.5 | Alan Gathright

[Windflier]

I love black thugs who hate me for being white and having a southern accent and want to drag me from my car and bash my head with bricks and rape my wife.

I know we owe them since our ancestors owned theirs once....fair’s fair.

Where do I sign up to be slaughtered as recompense?

You want me to leave, wardaddy? I mean, what am I to make of a response like that, after I've expended so much effort to rationally break down this issue?

You're responding to a post in which I fully acknowledged the dysfunctional condition of the black community, and elaborated on my own theory as to what the genesis of that debased condition is.

I fully agreed with the previous poster that blacks need to wake up and move into the mainstream of American culture, for their own future survival.

Just what do you want from me?

[whatisthetruth]

Environmentally driven? How so, blacks have every opportunity placed before them to incorporate themselves into the mainstream of society. They can live anywhere, go to school anywhere, opportunities are endless for them, there's no rhyme or reason there's all this crime and violence emanating at such a widespread level from their communities.

Like B-chan said, in some areas they control whole towns and cities and police forces and still they can't get a handle on their problem so what's up with that? There's this wave of black violent criminal acts across the country that has been gradually getting worse for decades despite more and more opportunities that are available to them. So what is their major malfunction?

Well guess we'll just have to disagree as I see nothing illogical, insulting, or inappropriate about my statement as it's definitely something to be considered, not saying it can't be overcome but I am saying that excessive violence seems to be a common reoccurring theme among the African peoples of the planet and you can't just keep whitewashing that fact away every time someone brings it up by screaming ..............

[Chunga]

The problem is absentee fathers.

[rmlew]

Sweet, but I live in NYC. 00 buckshot should be more than sufficient. I’m not even sure that I can get that in NYC. Speaking of moot, I found that I’m too close to a school to get a gun. I’ll have to trust the doorman.

[TomasUSMC]

Young Blacks are 9 times more likely to kill someone than Whites.

[Future Snake Eater]

Compare Harlem in the 1920s to Detroit today. What changed? The massive proliferation of the entitlement mentality. Begun under FDR, sharpened to a fine point under LBJ, and used to destroy the black community ever since.

Now, they haven’t helped themselves much either (re: general “thug” culture). And stories like this one here serve to strongly increase the close-to-boiling anger that whites feel against them for the demands for handouts, reparations, affirmative action, lots of violent crime perpetrated against whites (and quickly covered up by a “tolerant” media), etc.

“White anger” is very real and more than a little justified, but hurling invective, especially at a FReeper who is trying to understand the underlying issues at work here, is counterproductive to put it mildly.

Prepare yourself, your family, try to help others who will listen to see the light. That’s all you can do while still being a productive member of society. That’s all we ask of blacks, too, right?

I’m not saying you should be afraid to be called a “racist,” but that doesn’t mean you should make blatantly inappropriate statements either.

[whatisthetruth]

I wasn't living in Harlem in the 1920's but I was living in Chicago in the 50's and remember all too well that whites didn't take no crap from blacks, like they do today. I'm sure the same held true in 1920 New York.

Whites leave blacks to their own devices and all hell always break loose, Detroit, East St. Louis, Gary, Ind etc etc. As for hurling invectives at another Freeper, I have no idea what you're talking about. And AGAIN there's nothing inappropriate for me bringing up the idea of an inherent tribal instinct that may be part of the reason for out of control spiraling violence among blacks.

If that's offends you, well tell that to all the 32 or so whites in Denver that got the crap beat out of them by packs of blacks for no reason.

[Sarajevo]

Are you suggesting that most black people are violent thugs?

I'm suggesting that I consider many of them animals and will continue to do so until they clean up their own act. As a group, they are some of the most predjudiced that I have ever come in contact with.

[Sarajevo]

Their concept of respect is limited to causing fear in their perceived enemies. Unless you've known some of these personalities, you cannot understand how depraved they are. I'm talking worthless - beyond redemption.

There is the point. I'm sure that you've encountered many who held this mindset while you were in the military. I know I did, especially during the late 70's and early 80's.

[FreedomPoster]

I’m sad to hear that, but also unsurprised.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Spending my teen years in the ghetto caused me to grow eyeballs in the back of my head, and to develop a level of heightened awareness that was almost animal-like”

The time you spent there is to your advantage. Now you have the “street smarts” to survive if confronted with violent criminals.

“I also started making sure that I had a firearm within easy reach nearly all the time. Don’t know how many times I almost used it.”

I have drawn my gun twice in 30 years, and not used it. It is amazing how looking down the barrel of a gun takes the spunk out of would-be muggers ;-)

FReegards,

SJB

[jurroppi1]

Some people have to customize them (Glocks) to get the right feel. The 1911 is a really nice gun, but the price point was beyond me. The Glock was my first gun purchase, so I wasn’t likely to slip the purchase of a 1911 beyond the wife without a lot of controversy. Heck, buying the Glock caused enough controversy and I talked to her about buying it, plus I thought I had her o.k. beforehand.

Imagine if I had spent another 400-600 dollars (which is what it would’ve taken to get me into the territory of a 1911A1).

[AFreeBird]

Don’t know where you’d find one. I don’t think they make one for the civilian market.

And I don’t think it’ weird for a girl to lime such things. I think the word that comes to mind is: refreshing.

[MrB]

Oh, it’s pretty weird alright, for anyone to put a lime on a firearm...

It might be “refreshing”, but I’d rather have my lime in a Sonic cherry limeaid.

[dbwz]

I mean, what am I to make of a response like that, after I've expended so much effort to rationally break down this issue?

Here's what you make of it; you recognize that there are those who are heavily invested in reinforcing and justifying their resentment and truly believe that blacks are genetically predisposed to violence. They will continue to ignore any cogent analysis of the problem, because to them it's a moot point - you're all a bunch of hopeless, backwards thugs in the end and there's no sense in even wasting any resources trying to train you. That's the conclusion they're aiming for, and the solution is, at the least, to go back to the days of forced segregation.

[MrB]

You really do get it - I’m encouraged.

Of course it’s not the color of the skin or the genetics.

It’s the culture. And if that culture doesn’t move into the mainstream, there will be more and more deadly clashes.

I can only imagine the grief that “mainstreamed” blacks take from those who refuse to integrate into American society. I just hope they have the patience and courage necessary to get their point across.

[Darren McCarty]

You keep mentioning tribal instincts. Let's just, for the sake of argument that blacks (putting aside the large amount of genetic variance among blacks) have tribal instincts to violence?

How many white tribes have tribal instincts of violence. I'm Celtic, and not the Michael Flatley type. My family tree isn't made up of choirboys. It's closer to Michael Collins or Boondock Saints.

Today, outside of maybe parts of Boston, you don't see that stuff anymore with the white street gangs (outside organized crime). It's culture. Not genetics. I've met several blacks who wern't ghetto. I've met several blacks from Africa who aren't ghetto and had the work ethic that comes with people who come from poverty and don't want to go back.

Two problems.

1. Too many whites, even Irish, Scots, and Italians, are yuppified and lost their warrior side. Thank suburbia for that.

2. The ghetto mentality is enabled and even cool because its seen as tough.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Good for you.

[wardaddy]

I was being facetious and had not read all your posts here most of which are indeed very well said and sincere and I do realize it's easy for me as a white southerner to be conservative but not so for you...I really do get that and it's not fair. I hate that.

I am more than willing to discuss anything you'd like about the black community (or the white treatment of)very candidly because unlike most white folks here I have been either immersed in it or lived in close proximity to it for half a century.

And I have seen it collapse basically and take/accompany lower income white and latino urban culture down with it to the point where they are now almost indistinguishable except by skin color and they are working on that too.

This is not just an American issue but a worldwide issue for black culture baring one or two small exceptions and the roots go back far beyond what most folks are comfortable discussing today. Some cultures advance and some lag and some are in between and there are variances to that mean within each but the mean still is what it is and it's unreasonable to expect everyone to be the same culturally in short order when these differences based on so much environmental differences for tens of thousands of years have taken place. You can make this observation about any race or ethnic group and even to some degree religious affiliations and whatnot. Geographic isolation as one had in sub Saharan Africa and in the Americas has created for both of the indigenous groups there growing pains and this is an outgrowth of that which we all have to deal with but this new touchy feely make excuses and enabling failure progressivism is only retarding cultural acclimation in the modern world. Blacks for example were in better shape culturally in the now scorned years from 1866-1964 than they are now with all this excuse making and being treated like underprivileged pets by guilty whites.

And progressive politics and the deconstruction of the what we used to call western civilization the past 40 years has enabled it.

But I am not one of these white folks who thinks all that has happened negative in the black community is the fault of external forces. Blacks have free will same as anyone else and when I grew up most exercised it well and our cities were safe and so on...at least in the south.

[Canedawg]

You have risen above the dysfunctional sub-culture because, according to your home page, you “believe strongly in the doctrine of “American Exceptionalism”.”

You know that there is a wide disparity between the belief systems of those who love this country, and those who disrespect it.

I am not very optimistic for the next generation. The parents of many current gang members are themselves gang members, and I suspect that many children of today’s gang members will also be gang, as we head into the third (or fourth) generation of that culture.

It will be difficult to change the belief systems of an entire generation as long as leftists are able to indoctrinate them via the public school system, and peer pressure makes it that much harder to go against the grain.

Media that glorify that lifestyle isn’t helping either, nor is a potus who is a role model for many who continuously badmouths this society and country.