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Black Gangs Vented Hatred For Whites In Downtown Attacks
TheDenverChannel.com ^ | 2009.12.5 | Alan Gathright

Posted on 12/08/2009 8:43:16 PM PST by B-Chan

Black Gangs Vented Hatred For Whites In Downtown Attacks

'I Hate You F---ing White People,' Woman Shouts At Victim

Black gangs roaming downtown Denver often vented their hatred for white victims before assaulting and robbing them during a four-month crime wave, according to interviews and court records obtained by 7NEWS.

"I hate you f---ing white people," said a black woman in a large group of black men, according to the victim who was beaten up as he and three buddies left a LoDo bar after midnight on Aug. 30.

"F---- you, white boys," the woman added, according to the 25-year-old Westminster victim, who spoke to 7NEWS Friday.

"Why do you hate white people?" the man recalled asking. "That's when I got hit. They beat the crap out of me," he added, saying that 15 to 20 men beat him to the ground.

"They just swarmed you," said the man who curled up on the ground to shield his face. "You basically just had to protect yourself and hope they didn't kill you."

The victim, who suffered bruised ribs and a cut head, said he was protected by a padded motorcycle jacket. He asked that his name be withheld for his safety.

A couple dozen arrest warrant affidavits unsealed Friday offer chilling insights into the 26 racially-motivated "blitz attacks," which stretched from July 17 to Nov. 17.

One unidentified suspect told police "that the members of his gang earn status in the gang by beating up 'white dudes,'" according to court records. He added that the gangs targeted "drunk white guys," exiting bars and nightclubs in the entertainment district.

The suspects allegedly bragged about knocking out white victims with one punch to the head. Victims lying on the ground were "stomped" and even tossed through glass windows.

In the more than two dozen attacks, victims' injuries included a skull fracture as well as broken noses and eye sockets when they were blindsided by punches that often knocked them unconscious. One man was so savagely attacked that he was hospitalized in a coma for a while, police said.

Several of the 35 young male and female suspects arrested by police recently said the gangs often targeted lone white and Hispanic men because they didn't "fight back" and they had money, iPods and other valuable gadgets that attackers coveted.

Another goal: to drive whites away from their downtown turf, including a hip-hop nightclub, according to an arrest warrant affidavit.

The gangs "own that area," one suspect told police.

7NEWS exposed the crime spree in early September when a law enforcement source said the police department was keeping the public in the dark about a series of downtown attacks. The source added that a special FBI task force had been called in to help identify the assailants.

When 7NEWS made a public records request Sept. 3 for crime reports in the area, a police spokesman confirmed the department was investigating a "pattern of assaults and robberies in central Denver" that began in July.

Police spokesman Sonny Jackson denied that police delayed warning the public for seven weeks to avoid frightening visitors to the popular and lucrative downtown entertainment district.

He said police had to confirm "a pattern of behavior" before going public.

But police reports say the gang attack pattern was identified during the summer as the department deployed uncover teams and used surveillance cameras to identify the assailants.

"During the summer months of 2009, a pattern of criminal conduct was identified which included multiple suspects identifying a solo Caucasian or Hispanic male and completing a blitz attack against this party," an officer wrote in an arrest affidavit for a Sept. 4 robbery on the 16th Street Mall.

"Part of the MO involved the group of suspects, usually African American males, sending a party, possibly an African American female, to identify the victim," the officer wrote. "This is done by (the woman) talking with or standing with the victim. A suspect, generally male, from the group will step forward and hit the victim hard, knocking him down. Other members of the group will then emerge and begin participating in beating the victim."

The Westminster beating victim said if police had warned the public earlier, he and others could have better protected themselves

"I'm kind of upset that (police) didn't make it public," said the Westminster beating victim. "I would have been more vigilant. It would have made people a lot more on guard."

But, he added that, "I'm very pleased that they responded the way they did." Within minutes of his 911 cell phone call, uncover officers flooded the scene. He recalled listening to police radios crackling with reports of two suspects being arrested that night.

"I was like, 'Wow, finally they did something,'" the man recalled.

Prosecutors have charged two men and a woman in his attack.

As police pursued the massive investigation involving 35 suspects and dozens of victims, investigators asked the young blacks why they targeted whites.

"Because they got a lot of money," suspect Allen Ford, 18, allegedly told police. Other suspects echoed that simple rationale.

Ford, who was the last suspect arrested in a major police sweep in the past two weeks, allegedly told investigators earlier that he was upset how the robbery spoils were divvied up among members of the Rolling 60s Crips gang and the Black Gangster Disciples gang, according to the arrest affidavits.

Ford, who was arrested Thursday, allegedly griped about "other people getting bigger stuff than me that I would really like to have in my life," according to the records.

At times, older men would chastise young gang members, saying, "Y'all make it seem like a big deal for y'all to be knocking out white people," suspect Denita Mayfield told police. "They all brag about beating up white people."

But the attackers used more than their fists. "The series of crimes has also involved the use of a gun and knife," a police report said.

One male victim recalled a black woman approaching him on the street and saying something he couldn't hear.

"As he was attempting to clarify what had been said to him, a black male came up and stated, 'What the f--- did you say to my girl?'" a detective wrote in an arrest affidavit.

Instantly, the victim was punched.

As he was pounded with blows, the victim said he heard a woman voice shouting, "Get that white boy!" according to an arrest affidavit.

Kendall Austin, 18, allegedly told police that the street gangs "own that area," referring to the 1400 block of 19th Street.

He said they were especially possessive of the Bash nightclub at 19th and Blake streets, saying their purpose was to "keep white people from going to 'The Bash' and to 'let people know not to come downtown without their friends for protection.'"

During an Aug. 2 attack, suspect Allen Ford told police his alleged accomplice, Xavier Francis, tossed a white man through a glass window behind the Bash nightclub.

"I seen him pick the little white boy up and throw him through the glass," Ford told police, according to court records. Police obtained security camera video showing the victim fly through the window.

The Westminster man said after he was attacked, he avoided downtown for a while.

Now he's returned to his favorite LoDo tavern, but he added: "I'm a lot, lot more cautious. It makes me look over my shoulder a lot more."


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To: Windflier

That’s a great story!


401 posted on 12/10/2009 7:07:23 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Future Snake Eater
“White anger” is very real and more than a little justified, but hurling invective, especially at a FReeper who is trying to understand the underlying issues at work here, is counterproductive to put it mildly.

I’m not saying you should be afraid to be called a “racist,” but that doesn’t mean you should make blatantly inappropriate statements either.

Your comments make me believe that you haven't read through this entire thread. Compare your charge to my commentary here, and I think you'll see that it's unjustified.

Here's the comment by whatisthetruth that I first replied to. It's my reply to this comment that I believe prompted your post to me:

"Must be some sort of innate jungle tribal instinct just too difficult for their race to overcome."

I disagree that my reply to that comment was inappropriate.

You said:

Compare Harlem in the 1920s to Detroit today. What changed? The massive proliferation of the entitlement mentality. Begun under FDR, sharpened to a fine point under LBJ, and used to destroy the black community ever since.

This is a true statement, and is at the root of the degradation and failure we see rampant in the black community today. I've seen the slide during my own lifetime, and can attest that liberal initiatives and social engineering in the black community have largely been the cause.

Not every black person, and not every black family has become the effect of this diabolical intrusion from the left. My own family successfully repelled this insanity due to strong group morals and ethics, which were handed down and reinforced by successive generations. Not everyone was as lucky as I was, to have been born into such a family.

As for me, I have to continue to keep my focus on the larger fight at hand, and that is the fight we're all a part of. We must execute a successful second American Revolution to restore this nation to its founding ideals and traditions. Hopefully, we can do this peacefully, though there's no guarantee of that.

When the patriotic right has restored our nation to some semblance of its former glory and greatness, then disillusioned and brainwashed blacks can come in from the cultural wilderness and join their countrymen as Americans.

402 posted on 12/10/2009 7:14:19 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rlmorel
That’s a great story!

Thanks. I have fun telling it. It still cracks me up. ;-)

403 posted on 12/10/2009 7:19:08 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jurroppi1
"Imagine if I had spent another 400-600 dollars (which is what it would’ve taken to get me into the territory of a 1911A1)."

You would be sleeping on the couch I guess.

404 posted on 12/10/2009 8:20:30 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: B-Chan
That being said, I wonder if you could address the point under contention: namely, that some sort of "tribal instinct" lies at the root of the problems blacks have in every part of the world. There must be some reason that Detroit, East St. Louis, and Africa are hellholes, after all. Would you care to speculate on that reason, or do we have to stop talking about this now because you've become offended?

Should we just assume that all Irish are lazy drunks who want to fight and have kids based on everything that was said about them in the past or perhaps we should we call them all religious extremist terrorists based on what happened from the 1960s through the late 1990s?

My guess is that you've never met a black person in your life.
405 posted on 12/10/2009 8:38:52 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Windflier
Fortunately, wardaddy isn't one of them. We've exchanged thoughts upthread, and are on the same page.

Have to admit, I was just as taken aback initially (obviously, LOL). Glad everybody straightened that out.

In another post, you said:

African blacks may have borne some responsibility for their fall to whatever malevolent forces first began the long process of enslavement and degradation against them. I do know, for instance, that African tribes collaborated with the slave traders, and sold their fellow blacks into bondage in the 1600's.

That makes me think that a people who have such a long history of being bought and sold and viewed as inferior beings designed for simple labor had much to overcome in terms of perception of their own place in any society.

Now add the birth and rise of Marxism to the equation. That happened right around the time of the Civil War (The Communist Manifesto was written around the mid-1800's I believe) and populist movements gained steam here in the US through the late 1800's into the 20th century. So you had thousands and thousands of freed blacks trying to find a place in post-Civil War American society, and I believe they were easy pickings for the anti-capitalist/pro-worker philosophy (which evolved into the platform of the Democrat party). A people with a stronger collective sense of worth might not have been so vulnerable.

406 posted on 12/10/2009 10:23:38 PM PST by dbwz (DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC)
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To: Windflier

“In their case, there’s going to be a lot of weapons training in their upcoming home school years. “

I home schooled my daughter. Best of luck to you.


407 posted on 12/11/2009 4:40:12 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Windflier

Windflier, maybe if the entire USA community knew the true bliss of a military society, things would be much better for all. Ignorance is a predominat factor in social understanding of people.

Thank you for your family’s and your service to our great country. Wishing your family and you a Merry Christmas.
Sincerely,
NSNR


408 posted on 12/11/2009 5:30:40 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: blackbart.223

the pistol might’ve been holstered in an extremely uncomfortable position as well...


409 posted on 12/11/2009 6:48:04 AM PST by jurroppi1 (America, do not commit Barry Care-y!)
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To: Windflier
Your comments make me believe that you haven't read through this entire thread. Compare your charge to my commentary here, and I think you'll see that it's unjustified.

No, I admit I did not. I saw an obviously inappropriate comment and I called him/her on it, but my "white anger" comment wasn't descriptive of that FR poster, just the general building attitude of negativity by white America against black America. As I'm sure you're aware, nothing happens in a vacuum, and actions have consequences. While it's certainly arguable (to a point) that whites more-or-less created the dependent class that exists today (and even that argument would be a serious stretch), the flat out anger and hatred directed to us by blacks from all over the country has basically taken any and all good will that whites wish to extend and smashed it. So, now a reasonable person sees any black person anywhere as a potential threat (physically, to a potentially undeserved job, etc.) merely because of the color of that person's skin. Wrong or right, that's just how it's become. I don't like it, but how else can we react? Hard working people who do what they're supposed to do (black and white) are smacked down by the dependents for "not doing enough." Well what the hell am I supposed to do? And how am I supposed to know which blacks actively hate me and which ones don't care about me either way and are just going about their business?

Literally, a great number of black people hate me, personally, though they don't know me, because I don't empty my bank account and hand all my money and possessions to the first black person I see. And even then they would hate me because they would demand to know why it took me so long.

These are the things that are truly plaguing the black/white race relations. All things being equal, I genuinely don't give a damn about skin color, but things aren't equal, and there are some incredibly scary, angry people that will do great harm to me and my family due to my skin color. Therefore it calls for my vigilance, and it angers me that it has to be this way. Especially for reasons that blacks actually do have control over, whether many of them choose to believe it or not. Schools exist. Scholarships exist. Libraries exist. Tutoring, mentoring, apprenticing, etc. all exist. But a great many pretend there are no opportunities for them, and it's my fault and the fault of many others who look like me.

There's no logic to the argument, no reasoning behind the demands, just pure anger and violence. And, frankly, whites are getting absolutely sick of it. What you're seeing on this thread from some of the less, shall we say, articulate among us, is some of that anger coming to the surface. I'm sure it upsets and angers you, I know I don't like to be talked to like that, but this is how things are coming to a head.

God help us if/when it's fully unleashed.

410 posted on 12/11/2009 8:42:15 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater
...the flat out anger and hatred directed to us by blacks from all over the country has basically taken any and all good will that whites wish to extend and smashed it. So, now a reasonable person sees any black person anywhere as a potential threat...

Obviously, that statement troubles me greatly, if I accept that the sentiment is widespread among whites. It's a pointed threat to my basic survival.

Outside of wearing some sort of conservative identity badge, I don't know how normal, hard-working, non-hating blacks can differentiate themselves from the "hate Whitey" class.

In my observation, one can tell a lot about a person within the first few seconds of observing them. Call it profiling, if you will. There are tell-tale indicators that any reasonably astute person can pick up on, if they're looking.

I would hope that most whites will continue to use their powers of observation when interacting with blacks, and not automatically condemn every black person they encounter on a purely reactive basis.

At the very least, I would hope that they give each black person they meet an opportunity to show them who and what they really are before they judge.

Obviously, there are some "profiles" that will put any white (or black) person on an immediate defensive posture. I don't blame anyone for reacting that way to obvious bad indicators.

All things being equal, I genuinely don't give a damn about skin color, but things aren't equal, and there are some incredibly scary, angry people that will do great harm to me and my family due to my skin color.

I could have written the exact same statement. To this day, I am still uneasy about going into certain zones or regions of the country, even though I live in a semi-rural area that some would describe as cow country. I've lived with that uneasiness all of my life. It's eased up a great deal over the last couple of decades, but it's not gone completely.

Like you, I am disheartened that things are this way. We were supposed to be past all of this by now, but race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton have continued to stoke the fires of racial division and hate for decades. I blame that cottage industry for the overt hatred you see among some blacks today. It's unreasoning, and totally manufactured, as far as I can tell. When I was a kid, this was a rare attitude among blacks.

411 posted on 12/11/2009 10:28:03 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Thank you for your family’s and your service to our great country. Wishing your family and you a Merry Christmas.

Appreciate the kind words, NSNR. I hope that you and yours have a wonderful Christmas, too.

412 posted on 12/11/2009 10:37:31 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: B-Chan

If I ever move to Denver, I’ll be carrying 24/7. Not going to a bar is something I’ll live with. It’s cheaper at a store anyway.


413 posted on 12/11/2009 10:51:22 AM PST by wastedyears (You tell 'em I'm coming, and Hell's coming with me! - Wyatt Earp)
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To: dbwz
So you had thousands and thousands of freed blacks trying to find a place in post-Civil War American society, and I believe they were easy pickings for the anti-capitalist/pro-worker philosophy (which evolved into the platform of the Democrat party).

A people with a stronger collective sense of worth might not have been so vulnerable.

I believe this is precisely what happened.

It began in earnest with FDR's New Deal, and continued with LBJ's Great Society welfare programs. These government entitlement industries were largely directed at blacks, and served to undermine their self-worth, and to atrophy their ability to fend for themselves. In time Uncle Sam replaced the father in many black homes, which resulted in the breakdown of the basic family unit among blacks.

Today, fully 70% of black children are born out of wedlock, blacks are greatly over-represented in the prison population, and there is a high percentage of black single parent households. This is cultural destruction on a massive scale, yet Democrats, liberals, and most blacks have their eyes firmly glued shut to these facts.

I believe that once blacks were given the right to vote, they were targeted as a potential voting bloc which could be manipulated into monolithically voting for "the hand that feeds", i.e., the Democrats.

Most folks may not know this, but blacks had to be pried away from the Republican party. Until FDR's time, most blacks voted with "the party of Lincoln". My grandparents were all lifelong Republicans.

Many blacks of my grandparents' generation resisted the temptation to switch parties, and saw through the transparent snake oil sales of FDR's time, but their kids fell for it across the boards. JFK and LBJ went on to solidify the Democrat lock on the black vote.

414 posted on 12/11/2009 10:56:38 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: B-Chan
I don’t look at skin color,” he or she will say, even as the all-black gang is throwing them through the plate-glass window

I wouldn't be worrying about skin color either, just center of mass.

415 posted on 12/11/2009 10:57:31 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: AFreeBird

Denver would be an excellent testing ground for that weapon.


416 posted on 12/11/2009 10:58:32 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: ducdriver

Not these day, they were not in uniforms and in front of polling places...ops sorry wrong AG.

They should do federal time


417 posted on 12/11/2009 11:06:38 AM PST by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: ducdriver

Not according to the parents of the suspects and radio host Peter Boyles. They are now against hate crime laws.

These incidents are not crimes. These individuals were following the mantra of hope and change. They are just spreading the wealth a little. Besides, we are only talking about a difference of methods. These fine individuals used their fists to spread the wealth. The rats are using the power of government. Personally, I would rather take my chances with these individuals.


418 posted on 12/11/2009 11:13:34 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: B-Chan

Bush’s fau....er...Lincoln’s fault


419 posted on 12/11/2009 11:14:21 AM PST by AtlasThugged316 (Who is Edmund Ruffin?)
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To: B-Chan

420 posted on 12/11/2009 11:22:10 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: org.whodat

In ambush cases, unless your hand on the weapon and in your pocket, a pistol is not terribly useful.

Indeed, no weapon is of much use.

Think of the black muslim who recently killed those four coups eating a meal, for example. All armed, obviously.


421 posted on 12/11/2009 11:23:27 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Dallas59

“Ford, who was arrested Thursday, allegedly griped about “other people getting bigger stuff than me that I would really like to have in my life”

I saw the same quote and thought “Obama voter” too.


422 posted on 12/11/2009 11:26:52 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
Anyone can be ambushed, but the main thing to remember if you miss that first shot, you are a dead man walking.
423 posted on 12/11/2009 11:35:54 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: B-Chan

I can’t wait to see the “Law & Order SVU” episode on this. I’m sure they will be all over it.


424 posted on 12/11/2009 11:53:19 AM PST by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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To: B-Chan
“I don’t look at skin color,”

Reginald Denny Syndrome?

425 posted on 12/11/2009 12:06:02 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: MplsSteve
This sounds so incredibly gutless to me.

Gutless? Sure, but a whole lot safer for them. Gang mentality works like the old lynching parties used to.

426 posted on 12/11/2009 12:12:57 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: JSDude1
Why right here of course.


427 posted on 12/11/2009 12:15:17 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Justaham
Let’s hear it from Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

When the lights go out, poor people steal. JJ

428 posted on 12/11/2009 12:18:19 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Windflier

There’s got to be more to the problem of black failure than mere liberalism, however. Look at Africa: before colonialism, it was a place of tribalism, warfare, and poverty. Then the Euros came. During colonial times, order was imposed at gunpoint, schools were established, and prosperity increased for the majority of Africans. Yes, there were plenty of abuses during the colonial years (e.g. Leopold of the Belgians, one of history’s greatest bastards) but all in all the Europeans improved the lives of most black people in Africa during their period of domination. But the white man left. Within a few years, Africa was back to tribalism, warfare, and poverty. Why?

It can’t be that the African nations were unprepared for self-rule. The Euros dumped all their colonies, yet those outside of Africa went on to become reasonably successful. Singapore, for example, seemed to bounce back fairly quickly from its captivity within the British Empire. Belize is a reasonably civilized nation today as well sans British support. Indonesia has made a go of things without the Dutch. The Filipinos have their problems, yes, but all in all they’ve done all right since the Spanish and Americans left. The former French colonies in the South Pacific seem to have done okay. Vietnam is still recovering from being a battleground of World War III, but the future looks bright. Lebanon is a downright nice place as long as the neighbors aren’t interfering. And India had it tough for a couple of decades after the Raj packed it in, but they’re launching moon rockets today. But I can guarantee you that Nigeria or Togo will never launch a moon rocket. Why?

The fact is that no black society on earth has ever been a success. There were prosperous tribes and even kingdoms in Africa prior to the coming of the Europeans, but these were still hunter-gatherer tribes, not civilizations in the European or Asian sense. The pre-colonial tribes of Africa were more or less integrated into their various environments, yes, but despite the continent’s unbelievable bounty of water, fertile land and other natural resources, no real material or social progress was ever made by any social group in sub-Saharan Africa until outsiders came. Why?

I don’t know why. But I do know that whatever the reasons may be, native and diaspora Africans are simply not succeeding in the modern world. Yes, we all know black people who have done well, and we hope that many more will follow their examples; but until we identify and address the root causes of black failure, whatever they may be, we are all in for more suffering and heartbreak.

I hope I haven’t offended you, but facts are facts. Care to offer any ideas in response?


429 posted on 12/11/2009 12:24:29 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: itsahoot

Yep. Reginald Denny found out the hard way about the Rainbow of Diversity.


430 posted on 12/11/2009 12:26:02 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
"I hate you f---ing white people," said a black woman in a large group of black men...

You don't give us enough handouts. Mah, plasma tee bee is almost a years old. Ah need a new one, and mah iPhone needs replacin. Pay mah rent. Ah need gas in mah gubermint supplied Lexus. Gimmeee, gimeee, gimmeeeeee.
431 posted on 12/11/2009 12:28:47 PM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load.)
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To: MplsSteve
Has anyone noticed that when a white person is beaten by a black person, there are usually quite a few of the latter participating in the crime.

Wild animals travel in packs.
432 posted on 12/11/2009 12:30:57 PM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load.)
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To: Nea Wood

433 posted on 12/11/2009 12:34:09 PM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load.)
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To: Carley

“Anyone paying attention knew that something bad was brewing in downtown Denver.”

As a recent tourist to the Denver area, I had no idea. We didn’t go downtown but after reading this thread I’m now cancelling my next trip I had planned in January for a show at the convention center. My husband has a CCL but still, who needs the headache?

One lesson I just learned is to research local news of an area prior to travelling there.


434 posted on 12/11/2009 12:38:34 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Boucheau

check out a Martin Sheen movie made in 1984 called Guardian” You get a chance to see him on his knees begging for the guardian(Lou Gossett) to help him out, after he went to his house to fire him.


435 posted on 12/11/2009 12:49:46 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: org.whodat

I quite agree.
This is just another example of why you SHOULD exercise your right to self-defense AND your right to keep and bear arms.


436 posted on 12/11/2009 12:54:53 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: milagro
If I had the bully pulpit like Obama has, I'd sure as hell point out to as wide an audience as I could that 1)only a bunch of pansies would use the kind of chicken-shit tactics gangs use, and 2)their members must be really stupid to not realize that they are as responsible as any "oppressor" might be for causing grief and suffering for their own people!

Actually, Obama really wants this to happen, all part of the planned collapse of this country.

437 posted on 12/11/2009 1:07:46 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: itsahoot
Its a made for HBO movie and I have been looking for it for sometime. From what I remember Martin Sheen already had fired (Lou Gosset) and he was looking for him to rehire. The Lou Gosset character rescues the whiny PC guy (Sheen) from a “wolf pack”
438 posted on 12/11/2009 1:12:59 PM PST by Polynikes (Haakkaa Paalle)
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To: blackbart.223

That was the same model I carried guarding embassies. Sweet.


439 posted on 12/11/2009 1:15:18 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Polynikes
From what I remember Martin Sheen already had fired (Lou Gosset) and he was looking for him to rehire.

I haven't seen it for years, but my recollection, was that the building association sent him over there to fire him, could have been, that he was delivering a final check, in any case the memorable scene was right there, with Sheen crying like a baby, thanking Gossett.

440 posted on 12/11/2009 1:19:49 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Windflier

“Personally, I think that some of the worst lowlife black hoodlums have been emboldened by Obama being elected. He’s a living affirmation of their belief that they’re owed something by the majority culture.”

I think you hit the nail right on the head. These gangbangers have grown up in a environment that probably included broken families (thanks welfare state), drug and alcohol addiction (thanks liberal philosophy), and the consequential violence that goes with those things. Hence, the strategy of hanging with others to protect oneself morphs from the defensive to the offensive because they have also been taught that society is unfair to them and that they have no chance at a good future. But in the end, we all have the choices to make whether we are good or evil. These gangbangers have no positive value to society, irregardless of color, and personally I think should be killed without mercy or regard. Their entire philosophy is doing evil. Nothing better to me than when two or more gangbangers kill each other irregardless of the reason.


441 posted on 12/11/2009 1:34:33 PM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: meatloaf
And no one brings anything small into a bar around here
They all started out with bad directions

--from "9th & Hennepin," Tom Waits

442 posted on 12/11/2009 1:42:07 PM PST by Erasmus (Sid's oxymorons: Postmodern Intellectualism.)
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To: B-Chan

Reason 2,564,874 that liberals should be put on trial and then dealt with severly for what they have done to our country.


443 posted on 12/11/2009 1:52:51 PM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: B-Chan

Time for the white wave to visit the hip hop joint and do some payback!

WTF is wrong with the white comunity?

This sh!t is going on all over the place and noone is killing these f**kers.


444 posted on 12/11/2009 1:53:33 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: devistate one four

What “white community”?


445 posted on 12/11/2009 1:57:50 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: blackbart.223

You must have two, cause one would be well worn!

Perfect practice makes perfect.

I’ve got my own firing range but now it’s 15 below (actual) so I only get to dryfire my toys and reload all winter.

getting ready for the big show!


446 posted on 12/11/2009 1:58:06 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: B-Chan

I hear ya.


447 posted on 12/11/2009 2:06:44 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: B-Chan

“The fact is that no black society on earth has ever been a success. There were prosperous tribes and even kingdoms in Africa prior to the coming of the Europeans, but these were still hunter-gatherer tribes, not civilizations in the European or Asian sense. The pre-colonial tribes of Africa were more or less integrated into their various environments, yes, but despite the continent’s unbelievable bounty of water, fertile land and other natural resources, no real material or social progress was ever made by any social group in sub-Saharan Africa until outsiders came. Why?”

In the history of many hundreds of years, there have been Asian and European civilizations of size, achievement and note. But in Africa? And in Africa today? Various versions of corrupt and despotic regimes. Even worse than the current corrupt and despostic Obama regime.

The way 95 pct of blacks vote Democratic Party, one would think the blacks prefer the paternalistic, socialistic life of a plantation slave than freedom, which is what the Dem Party, if given full power, would impose on us all. (and at least half the whites vote as if they wish they were kept slaves or at least serfs on a plantation.


448 posted on 12/11/2009 2:16:32 PM PST by OldArmy52 (The German High Command sent Lenin to destabilize Russia. Who sent Obama?)
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To: org.whodat
I have not been to Denver since the early eighties and then it was just to pass through to Boulder to see a stone concert. Even then Denver was a dirty looking town.
449 posted on 12/11/2009 2:38:47 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

We would be acting stupidly, if we jumped to any conclusions here...

I wonder if this would be going on in downtown Houston for very long???

When I saw this was in Denver, I just kinda sat back and scratched muh head...

If this is a spreading trend in the black community, I wonder what the sentiment will be, when a victim of their criminal activity defends themselves and shoots one or more of these attackers to “stop” them???

I do not see a lot of preventative measures being implemented to curb this activity from spreading, yet if it was some racial hate group like aryans, or KKK getting everyones panties in a wad, the law would be all over that like stink on smelly stuff...

But then again, what do I know...


450 posted on 12/11/2009 2:45:57 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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