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(EPA) declare carbon a toxic pollutant: Obama pulls end run
canadafreepress.com ^ | December 8, 2009 | Klaus Rohrich

Posted on 12/09/2009 4:35:10 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) declare carbon a toxic pollutant Obama pulls end run

As I wrote here yesterday, I believe the feeding frenzy currently taking place at the Copenhagen trough will result in the ultimate global governance of every man woman and child on the planet. A climate treaty may not actually be signed and agreed upon by the 192 countries whose representatives are currently living LARGE on caviar and limousines at the conference, but the rules such a treaty might impose will still take effect.

The main reason to believe this will happen is that President Barack Obama has pulled an end run around the American people and the legislators they have elected by having the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) declare carbon a toxic pollutant, despite the fact that all life on the planet is basically carbon-based. But fascists can never be swayed by facts and Obama has shown that when it comes to imposing his draconian agenda he isn’t particularly squeamish about violating the principles of the Constitution or the rights of the people.

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1 posted on 12/09/2009 4:35:12 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/09/2009 4:39:15 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) declare[d] carbon a toxic pollutant, despite the fact that all life on the planet is basically carbon-based
The very definition of the Age of Stupid.
3 posted on 12/09/2009 4:39:36 AM PST by samtheman
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Well, if carbon dioxide is a pollutant then as an example for the rest of us Congress should hold its breath, starting now.


4 posted on 12/09/2009 4:40:45 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: steelyourfaith

I wonder if the long legged mack daddy false messiah, the ‘one’ the communists and radicals have been waiting for; will save the poor little girl hanging from the tree?

Maybe the cancelled $1200 Al Gore handshakes money; could have bought a ladder to take her out of the tree?


5 posted on 12/09/2009 4:42:37 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
But fascists can never be swayed by facts and Obama has shown that when it comes to imposing his draconian agenda he isn’t particularly squeamish about violating the principles of the Constitution or the rights of the people.

Starve the beast. We can live without their money, but they can't live without ours.

More and more, people have to start thinking about getting back to the soil. Feeding the masters in Washington only makes them stronger, and the American people only become more enslaved. If they're not going to free us, we're going to have to free ourselves.

6 posted on 12/09/2009 4:45:04 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: steelyourfaith

My last comment was in reference to this

COP15 opening film. More Child Brainwashing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yNw6DFOAUg


7 posted on 12/09/2009 4:45:44 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I say, like healthcare, you in congress try it first. Hold your breathe until we say exhale........... hold it......I’ll be right back..........hey your complextion is starting to match your blue tie.....keep holding it where almost done......


8 posted on 12/09/2009 4:47:36 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: concerned about politics

Agreed - I like the way you think.


9 posted on 12/09/2009 4:47:54 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The question is are We The People going to allow these anti-carbon extremist to do this to us?


10 posted on 12/09/2009 4:49:00 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“I believe the feeding frenzy currently taking place at the Copenhagen trough will result in the ultimate global governance of every man woman and child on the planet.”

The night is far spent.
This is NOT JUST A USA GOV PROBLEM!
Even if every Senator and REP are replaced next year we are now under the iron glove of “O”.


11 posted on 12/09/2009 4:49:58 AM PST by vanilla swirl (Maranatha!)
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To: concerned about politics
quote of the year

"Barack Obama has basically co-opted the Congress and is imposing his agenda through the regulatory back door

The reason the EPA declared “greenhouse gases” to be toxic is as plain as the nostrils on Henry Waxman’s face. Congress realizes that passing the Waxman-Markey cap and trade bill would impoverish Americans to a degree previously only seen during the Great Depression and its passage would spell political suicide for all those who supported it. So it’s clear that in order to get what he wants, Barack Obama has basically co-opted the Congress and is imposing his agenda through the regulatory back door.

12 posted on 12/09/2009 4:50:03 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The clowns are running the circus.


13 posted on 12/09/2009 4:50:03 AM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Can't get rid of me Jim! Well, you can but you've put up with me so far.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Coincidentally, I was watching DVR recording of O’Reilly’s show from last night & I opened your post right after watching his show air that opening video from COP15.


14 posted on 12/09/2009 4:51:18 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: sauropod

read


15 posted on 12/09/2009 4:52:54 AM PST by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
Obama has shown that when it comes to imposing his draconian agenda he isn’t particularly squeamish about violating the principles of the Constitution or the rights of the people.



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16 posted on 12/09/2009 4:57:38 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: vanilla swirl

I have been saying this. No one gets the whole picture but a few.

The answer is impeachment for aiding, abetting comforting the enemy. Obama must be held accountable. Republicans need to stop fearing the first black POTUS race card crap! Someone, anyone, classs, class, class, anyone- official in government or the private sector needs to speak out. If everyone continues to infight for ‘their candidate in 2012’
and fight pub primaries now while this usurper becomes king, or thinks pubs or any third party; will fix this in 2010. They need to see while it is rightious and forthright, it is a waste of time.


17 posted on 12/09/2009 4:58:06 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: sirchtruth

I believe Obama needs to be arrested and tried for treason and giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


18 posted on 12/09/2009 5:03:30 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
As Krauthammer said on Fox's Special Report on Monday evening (video link), “Environmentalism is the new Socialism…it will regulate every aspect of life”

Per Krauthammer, Obama is using the EPA to blackmail Congress into passing Cap and Trade. He goes on to say that if the EPA forces environmentalism on America, there will be revolution.

Regarding Krauthammer himself, as much as his analyses are profoundly incisive, he is often wrong in his conclusions. This time, however, I think he is correct in thinking that Obama will try to force Cap and Trade AND that there will be a revolution of sorts.

The notion that Obama will, in the end, be drawn to the center by practical considerations has been thoroughly debunked. Obama is a devout Marxist and will stop at nothing to bring his New Amerika into being.

19 posted on 12/09/2009 5:05:58 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (The Mahdi turned out to be a Marxist! Who knew?)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

So are they going to declare the world’s ocean, the biggest creator of CO2, the enemy?
They going to declare a cap and trade progam on the pacific ocean? I’m sure Al Gore’s figuring out a way to make it work...


20 posted on 12/09/2009 5:07:34 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.

H. L. Mencken
US editor (1880 - 1956)

The older I get watching this all unfold the more this quote comes to mind.


21 posted on 12/09/2009 5:07:44 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“...And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” Tim 2


22 posted on 12/09/2009 5:09:43 AM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Can't get rid of me Jim! Well, you can but you've put up with me so far.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
President Barack Obama has pulled an end run around the American people and the legislators they have elected

This is a ridiculous assertion.

First of all, the American people ELECTED the man currently using the name "Barack Obama". The American people and the legislators they have elected CREATED the EPA, exercise absolute power over it, and could end it tomorrow.

The American people have all the POWER they need - what they lack is wisdom and virtue.

23 posted on 12/09/2009 5:10:12 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

What a bunch of crap, developing countries all over the world, including countries in Africa are facing problems with starvation, disease, and crime, simply because these same countries don't hold in high priority any efforts to educate their citizens, build schools and hospitals, or provide measures that will effectively create an atmosphere of legitimate governments that can help to provide these measures... instead they would rather resort to piracy, tyrannical governments and despotic rulers that have been infiltrated by radical forces, including jihadists and their awareness of their problems usually always involve not giving a damn about their citizens but they have quickly learned that they can blackmail countries like the USA because of weak-minded governors like Obama, simply because people like Obama are also not aware of the "real problems" his country faces, and ironically, he has absolutely no control over the situation. So, we are in a global stand-still with both sides drawing their lines in the sand, and not ready to really help their own by common sense and acceptable terms from either side.

In a time where solutions will have grave outcomes if not taken seriously, we have become entangled in distractions and irrelevant synthesized disasters, by powerful people, whom one has to wonder, who alliances they really stand behind: greed and the lust for more power, come to the top of the list in my mind. If the USA doesn't tend to its home front and fix the economy, we won't have any country to worry about let alone all this global warming crap and whether CO2 is a toxic gas. What a joke.


24 posted on 12/09/2009 5:11:07 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Agreed - I like the way you think.

The working class, i.e., the money source, has more power over the government than it realizes. If the working class were to stop feeding Washington ( legally and as much as possible of course), even that would break the back of the masters.
No money - no ability to buy votes or control the masses. Without our money, they lose all their power and privilege. THEY would have to visit the unemployment offices instead of us.
That's why it's important to starve the beast. Legally avoid all activities or purchases that have an attached tax of any kind. This type of protest is free, and actually quite fruitful in the end. YOU get to save the extra cash yourself. Save it for YOUR OWN retirement.

25 posted on 12/09/2009 5:15:13 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

If CO2 is a toxic pollutant, are we going to designate all plants as criminals because they are Harboring a fugitive (mean and toxic CO2), because we all know, plants cannot survive without CO2, and cannot produce O2 (oxygen) without CO2. Never, in my wildest dreams, would I have thought that our government would be this inane with such despotic activity. I think Charles Krauthammer is correct. This may be the beginning of the end, i.e. the beginning of whatever it takes for a full fledged revolution. Egads, can this really be happening, I need to pinch myself, to see if this is all a dream. Where are those damn ruby slippers when you need them!

26 posted on 12/09/2009 5:19:22 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: MajorThomas

Keep the powder dry and get a lot more of it...we are going to need it.


27 posted on 12/09/2009 5:20:16 AM PST by surfer
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To: surfer

Spot on


28 posted on 12/09/2009 5:22:59 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Krauthammer is superbly brilliant.

The crude version.

Copenhagen: socialism’s wet dream

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17666


29 posted on 12/09/2009 5:23:56 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

We can now have all of Congress arrested for Pollution.


30 posted on 12/09/2009 5:24:24 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Kozak

I have found a lot of CO2 in my yard. Maybe I need to apply for government $$$$ to get the EPA to come in and help me get all this CO2 out of my yard. It could drift over to my neighbors yard, and that would be an absolute nightmare. Omygosh, what if it drifts into DC? We are in serious trouble here, with a capitol T that rhymes with B, and that stands for oBama! Oh we got trouble, trouble, trouble.

31 posted on 12/09/2009 5:31:06 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: Kozak

EPA Determines Greenhouse Gases Harmful to People and Environment

Ruling Paves Way for EPA to Act Without Approval From Congress

The Environmental Protection Agency declared today that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are harmful to people and the environment.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/epa-declares-greenhouse-gases-hazardous-peoples-health-environment/story?id=9272194

32 posted on 12/09/2009 5:32:43 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
But fascists can never be swayed by facts and Obama has shown that when it comes to imposing his draconian agenda he isn’t particularly squeamish about violating the principles of the Constitution or the rights of the people.

It's a shame that the American media don't have the same clarity of vision that Canada Free Press does.

33 posted on 12/09/2009 5:38:22 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The Fix is in! the republicans for the most part are part of the scam and those who are not are pussies!! We have witnessed a coup, a total takeover of the US government. They do not intend to listen and do the will of the people.
We are being enslaved, our freedoms are being wiped ou and our way of life is being decimated. forget impeachment, forget elections, the plan is to drag America into the socialist world order the American people be damned. We either fight or they win! Period!!


34 posted on 12/09/2009 5:40:48 AM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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To: surfer
Keep the powder dry and get a lot more of it...we are going to need it.

Wait until the working class sees the cost of Death Care. Add to that the massive energy cost increases, and people are going to totally freak.

Death Care = mandatory $870 per month per person (if no employer benefits).
$1,700-$2,100 per person over 55 (pushed into self paying Medicare).
No op out option (and because it's the government giving out these numbers, multiply the cost by 10).

Oboma himself said if Tax and Cap passes, energy costs would also skyrocket. Imagine after paying for their Death Care, people will have to pay a 2-3 times higher price for energy!

("Share the wealth" with those who choose unemployment as a life style choice.)

35 posted on 12/09/2009 5:41:50 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: timetostand

I agree then disagree. Obama has given the EPA -power above congress.- Obama has made himself the Czar of Czars.This alone is grounds for an impeachment trial. Obama’s race card and magic are expired; they no longer work. (SEE HIS POLLS) So why are the halfway decent pubs,dems in our government sitting on their hands quiet? Seriously... They ALL can’t be ‘in on it.’


36 posted on 12/09/2009 5:49:33 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: timetostand
We have witnessed a coup, a total takeover of the US government.

I think so. They're taking over everything.

Socialism is the prelude to Communism, and we've already been a socialist country for years (ever since the New Deal). I believe we're moving into the Communist stage.

(Starve the beast. When you feed it, it only gets stronger.)

37 posted on 12/09/2009 5:51:25 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

`”The reason the EPA declared “greenhouse gases” to be toxic is as plain as the nostrils on Henry Waxman’s face. Congress realizes that passing the Waxman-Markey cap and trade bill would impoverish Americans to a degree previously only seen during the Great Depression and its passage would spell political suicide for all those who supported it. So it’s clear that in order to get what he wants, Barack Obama has basically co-opted the Congress and is imposing his agenda through the regulatory back door.”

Obama the dictator. Who will stop him? So far, nobody.


38 posted on 12/09/2009 5:52:35 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Seriously... They ALL can’t be ‘in on it.’

Why not? Both democrats and Republicans have increased their own power and privilege 100 fold. They both have absolute power over everything.
Picture Mitt Romney getting elected and cutting back these massive social programs. You can't, can you?

39 posted on 12/09/2009 5:55:22 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics
While this makes sense. Think this through a bit.

If we ALL tax revolt and do not pay the ludicrous unlawful beyond words taxes coming... we will all go to an Obama FEMA camp.

We need to act on impeachment while we still have this, before it is too late.

ACORN being dismissed by Holder...

Terrorists being given Miranda Rights and a trial in NYCity...

Obama ordering miranda rights be read to terrorists in the war zone...

Obama having ridiculous, politically correct ROE orders to our troops...

Obama usurping complete power via global warming climate change...

The dems are the majority but if enough pound the news/protest with a call for an impeachment trial of Obama and not politics of someone saving us in 2010 or 12. They HAVE to proceed with a trial of Barack Hussein Obama! We have plenty of pub lawyers they best speak up SOON!

Somebody needs to step up to the plate already. Enough is Enough!

40 posted on 12/09/2009 6:06:05 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: concerned about politics

Screw Romney. He is a tool. Bad example.


41 posted on 12/09/2009 6:08:00 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: concerned about politics
More and more, people have to start thinking about getting back to the soil.

I've been considering this point for awhile now and I am wondering if this is what we should be doing? I mean, doesn't it play directly into their hands? Isn't that exactly what their agenda has been driving at for years?

Go green, get off the grid with solar or wind. Go local, eat locally grown...preferably organic. Stop driving, bike, walk, scooter.

I'm not saying you are wrong I am just pointing out they have been pushing for that direction.

Starve the beast, going galt, or whatever we call it, it seems like we're playing into their agenda at times. No, I don't have another answer or option. I am just wondering if we're not falling into their trap?

42 posted on 12/09/2009 6:08:01 AM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I watched Pat Cauddel on Beck last night and he said it plain and simple. The people have had enough.

Just heard the WH Economic Advisor said that if Congress doesn’t act on the EPA requirements...the WH will use COMMAND AND CONTROL ACTIONS.

HAVE PEOPLE HEARD ENOUGH YET.


43 posted on 12/09/2009 6:09:57 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62
"the WH Economic Advisor said that if Congress doesn’t act on the EPA requirements...the WH will use COMMAND AND CONTROL ACTIONS."

What in the hell?

What exactly does command and control mean?

44 posted on 12/09/2009 6:11:46 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: MajorThomas
If CO2 is a toxic pollutant, are we going to designate all plants as criminals

No, but we can punish (tax) those that grow plants.

Off the top of my head, a couple other common things that involve CO2-

My MIG welder has a CO2 bottle, as does every soda fountain. So do beer taps for that matter. Any process that uses yeast gives off quite a bit of CO2. So they can tax bread and the production of alcohol also. I'm sure there are many, many more.

45 posted on 12/09/2009 6:12:37 AM PST by ScottyinTN (Stuck on dialup)
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To: steelyourfaith

You record Bill O’Reilly?


46 posted on 12/09/2009 6:20:36 AM PST by genetic homophobe (They hate Sarah because she lovingly carries a failed abortion on her hip.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
If we ALL tax revolt and do not pay the ludicrous unlawful beyond words taxes coming... we will all go to an Obama FEMA camp.

That's why we LEGALLY avoid all taxes.
If you buy "junk", you pay consumer taxes.
If you drive excessively, you pay gas taxes.
If you smoke - tobacco taxes.
If you eat prepared foods - taxes.
Soda? Taxes.
Working overtime - taxes.
Why pay taxes every week? Why not bank that cash and deny the government the interest on that money they need so badly? Keep the interest for yourself instead.

The key is to not buy, cook your own food, stop smoking or cut back, drive less, etc. Avoid anything with an attached tax like a PLAGUE. Make it a life style choice.

If EVERYONE were to start doing this, the tax revenue for the politicians would be cut in half - at least, and the government is already broke. This is why they're taking over everything. They need to siphon money out of health care, banks, and the environment. Anything they can. The democrat base, and leaders around the world, have an insatiable apatite. They want MONEY - big time. Don't give it to them.

47 posted on 12/09/2009 6:21:01 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I want to do a seperate posting on this.
But the WH FOX correspondent just posted the Quote.
It’s not on their Web site yet.

As Martha said: That is harsh language............ YA THINK?

EPA to use COMMAND and CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


48 posted on 12/09/2009 6:21:48 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

Bookmark


49 posted on 12/09/2009 6:23:22 AM PST by mplsconservative
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