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Administration Warns of 'COMMAND-AND-CONTROL' Regulation Over Emissions
Fox News ^ | 12/09/2009 | FOXNews.com

Posted on 12/09/2009 6:53:10 AM PST by Marty62

The Obama administration is warning Congress that if it doesn't move to regulate greenhouse gases, the Environmental Protection Agency will take a "command-and-control" role over the process in a way that could hurt business.

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Thank You for the Heads up. ..............

DOES ANYONE DOUBT THE THINKING PROCESS OF THESE FASCIST?

1 posted on 12/09/2009 6:53:12 AM PST by Marty62
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To: Marty62; livius; DollyCali; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; Thunder90; Little Bill; Nervous Tick; ..
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/09/2009 6:54:07 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Marty62

I am worried that we will not be able to reverse the Obama Admin’s takeover of so many areas of our lives. THESE PEOPLE MUST BE STOPPED!!!!


3 posted on 12/09/2009 6:54:50 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Marty62

What the— So, this is the means by which they’ll force Crap & Tax through! Devious, awful b***ards!! No, what Congress needs to do (and you know they won’t) is call the EPA on the carpet!!


4 posted on 12/09/2009 6:56:30 AM PST by McKayopectate
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To: Marty62

Elections have consequences. I just hope America survives this attack on freedom and liberty.


5 posted on 12/09/2009 6:57:37 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I think you’re right...we don’t have the luxury of waiting until 2012. These people mean to destroy the country and the Republic!


6 posted on 12/09/2009 6:58:21 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Marty62

When does Obama start ordering public executions?


7 posted on 12/09/2009 6:58:44 AM PST by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: Marty62

Congress is useless. We now have a fascist in power.


8 posted on 12/09/2009 6:59:42 AM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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To: Marty62

In the end, the EPA cannot do a single thing the congress does not give its consent to. A single law can undo any decision the EPA makes. Fear 2010 and 2012 you communists.


9 posted on 12/09/2009 7:00:17 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Marty62

Liberals are all about circumventing the process.

You don’t teach your kids to be socialists, so the schools will do it.

You don’t teach immorality, so the courts will do it.

You don’t vote for enough socialists, so the government agencies will do it.


10 posted on 12/09/2009 7:00:34 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
OK kids...

Do we have a clearer understanding of the phrase "fundamentally change America", YET?

11 posted on 12/09/2009 7:01:03 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“could hurt business”
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Think about the consequences of THIS!
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But then there will be plenty of people for the New REVOLUTIONARY ARMY


12 posted on 12/09/2009 7:01:08 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

And if we lived in a real world, congress’s reaction to the orders from Zero would be to disband the EPA.


13 posted on 12/09/2009 7:01:45 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Marty62

The Senate being led by Harry Reid and the House led by Nancy Pelosi are not radical enough for Obama. They don’t seem willing to “do what it takes”. But don’t worry, Barry is ready to turn it up a notch or two and REALLY push hard to the Left.


14 posted on 12/09/2009 7:01:49 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Marty62

HURT Businesses??

IS THAT A THREAT??

The President of the United States is now a THREAT to the Nation.

If the EPA starts getting its fingers into things, not only is it BLATANT legislation from the White House, a Constitutional Violation, but ALSO you won’t be able to build a building larger than Gore’s Mansion.

THIS IS BULL***T.


15 posted on 12/09/2009 7:02:09 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Marty62

I hope we will see the day when the new congress cuts off the funds to the EPA. No funds, no enforcement.


16 posted on 12/09/2009 7:02:12 AM PST by Dem Guard
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To: Marty62

bookmark


17 posted on 12/09/2009 7:02:13 AM PST by ElayneJ
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To: Obadiah

When does Obama start ordering public executions?”

As soon as the American people stand up and Fight these
commies with all disposable means!!


18 posted on 12/09/2009 7:02:23 AM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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To: Marty62
"What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family?"
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
19 posted on 12/09/2009 7:03:26 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Marty62
This should not surprise anyone. Carol Browner and her boss are both doctrinaire Leninists, as has been obvious for years. Their latest move follows a "commanding heights" strategy to a tee.

Lenin coined the phrase "the commanding heights" in 1922 when he temporarily relaxed government controls over Soviet agriculture even as he maintained a tight grip on big industry. The phrase symbolized the principle that in the name of economic development and national security it was imperative for government to control key economic sectors such as steel making and transportation -- to take the "commanding heights."

20 posted on 12/09/2009 7:03:49 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: DesertRhino

The head of the EPA just said if congress doesn’t pass Cap and Trade she’ll just take over. Arrest her!


21 posted on 12/09/2009 7:04:04 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Obadiah

No executions until after the guns are collected. And more ominously,, you dont NEED to execute people when you can destroy them with a government-media complex. Joe the plumber,, Sarah,, etc.
Raise your head and they examine your life all the way back to kindergarten, literally. (except of course,, the obama)


22 posted on 12/09/2009 7:04:12 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

The ‘progressives’ have been lurking in this country for the past 96 years, just waiting for their opportunity to implement a ‘command’ economy. After all, they think they know what’s best for society.
They really believe it will be different here from any other country that tried it.
We know who they are, do they know who we are?
We are willing to sacrifice for liberty because all else is worthless without it.


23 posted on 12/09/2009 7:04:34 AM PST by griswold3 (You think health care is expensive now? Just wait till it's FREE!)
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To: Marty62
Administration Warns of 'COMMAND-AND-CONTROL' Regulation Over Emissions

The democrats are in power, and can defund the EPA at any time.

If anything bad comes from this, it's 100% in the hands of the democrats in the house and senate.

The democrat politicians aren't the victims here. WE are.

24 posted on 12/09/2009 7:05:31 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Marty62

Some branches of government are more equal than others.


25 posted on 12/09/2009 7:05:46 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: Marty62

I say we the people, who produce the jobs and wealth- prepare oourselves to tutn out the lights and STAY HOME.

Let the “Commanders” take “Control” of that.

Galt lives.

meanwhile I sit here with two sweaters on and wonder what will happen when my electric bill goes up again, and again.
It does my heart good to see mashell obama’s bare abs (sarc).


26 posted on 12/09/2009 7:06:01 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: Danae
If the EPA starts getting its fingers into things, not only is it BLATANT legislation from the White House, a Constitutional Violation... The EPA is has been a Constitutional usurpation for 35 years.
27 posted on 12/09/2009 7:06:12 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Wolfie

Timely quote.


28 posted on 12/09/2009 7:06:30 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Obadiah

wealth stripping comes first-


29 posted on 12/09/2009 7:06:47 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: Marty62

And what african thuggery!! Obama,,, is now warning congress,, that they better regulate greenhouse gasses,,,OR the EPA, a part of the executive branch, will do things to damage the economy?

Why not just say,, “or I will damage the economy”. Thug,,,


30 posted on 12/09/2009 7:07:20 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: kingu

My thoughts EXACTLY.
Congress had better start eliminating these Fascist agencies.
Ofcourse we are going to hang on until 2010.
The Fascist are in a full out assault mode.
The only hope is for people to do a Iran style revolt against these thugs.


31 posted on 12/09/2009 7:07:23 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Obadiah

In answer to your question, he’ll start ordering public
executions soon after Oprah does the Christmas special at
the White House. He expects to get a big “bump” from that, and that bump will make it more palatable to the electorate.


32 posted on 12/09/2009 7:08:29 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away."--Tom Waits)
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To: Marty62

I soooooo hope Obama and the EPA make good on this threat. I double dare them.


33 posted on 12/09/2009 7:08:39 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: DesertRhino

I believe you are wtong. An order that goes unchallenged for 30 days goes into effect.

Once an individual plaintiff can make a case he has been damaged by these EPA regulations, THEN it can go to court - to be heard by liberal judges.


34 posted on 12/09/2009 7:09:02 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: Marty62

Let us be clear here, it likely matters not whether the EPA or the Congress impose limits on CO2. In either case it will bankrupt the Country.

Some examples of things that will potentially fall under the EPA’s thumb if the limits being discussed are imposed:

Any sporting event, such as an NFL game, that has more than 25,000 spectators present.

Large apartment buildings.

All concrete manufacturing plants.

Every single coal burning power facility in the Country.

Every single natural gas burning power facility in the Country.

Home firewood, no matter if you cut it yourself or have it delivered.

The possibilities are simply endless, and any combination of the above would stifle what little industry and commerce is left in the Nation.

Unfortunately as a consequence of losing the last Presidential election, and for putting Liberal Dhimmies in charge of the US Congress, we are naked until such time as we can replace the US Congress.


35 posted on 12/09/2009 7:11:35 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: originalbuckeye

Got that right. The Republicans never reverse anything. Just keep playing defense. A losing strategy.


36 posted on 12/09/2009 7:11:39 AM PST by all the best
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“Do we have a clearer understanding of the phrase “fundamentally change America”, YET?”

You nailed that. I still remember election night. And he said, “change has come to America”. We are so used to flowery political speak that we ignore it. He literally meant it. He meant to implement the socialist revolution in America in the model of Hugo.

He must be removed from office.


37 posted on 12/09/2009 7:12:21 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Jim Noble

“Lisa Jackson”, not Carol Browner.
Jon Corzine’s almost-chief of staff is the head of the EPA.

However, Lisa - probably the smartest chemical engineeer ever produced by Tulane (sarc) who who has sucked at the public teat all her professional life, is a useful tool of Browner Socialist Globalist et al


38 posted on 12/09/2009 7:12:21 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: Marty62
Nice little shop ya got here, Bud. Be a real shame if ya don't have some fire protection policies from us and youse happen to have somethin’ burn here. Yeah, it'd be a real shame.
39 posted on 12/09/2009 7:13:10 AM PST by JPG (Climategate coming soon to the SRM.)
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To: Marty62

I have but one question!! When does the pushback begin!!?


40 posted on 12/09/2009 7:13:31 AM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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To: Marty62
American Nuremberg Trial is coming for you soon, you fascist bastard.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

41 posted on 12/09/2009 7:13:39 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: silverleaf
meanwhile I sit here with two sweaters on and wonder what will happen when my electric bill goes up again, and again.

After your health care cost skyrocket, and your energy costs skyrocket, wait until you see you tax bill.

The dependent democrat base will need more money to pay for their heating, electric, food, and necessities. The public schools will need more for their heating, electric, school buses, and cafeterias.
Groceries will go up because of their heating, electric, and shipping......Everthing goes up and up.

...And the angel was crying:" A measure of wheat for a penny! A measure of wheat for a penny!"

42 posted on 12/09/2009 7:15:13 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: McKayopectate

As Charles Krauthammer put it, Obama is saying “Give me Cap and Trade or I’ll use the EPA to just give you Cap!” He’s willing to cripple the economy to get his way, the rotten thug that he and his administration is. Even if they secretly want Cap and Trade, if the congress had any self respect at all, they’d tell him to take his blackmail threat and shove it and cut the EPA budget by 50% just to put an exclamation point on it. But instead they’ll roll over and further erode their own relevance.


43 posted on 12/09/2009 7:16:25 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: timetostand

I just e-mailed my SIN (not sp)
Made it clear this has to STOP NOW!


44 posted on 12/09/2009 7:17:38 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: timetostand

I just e-mailed my SIN (not sp)
Made it clear this has to STOP NOW!


45 posted on 12/09/2009 7:18:03 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Danae
HURT Businesses??

IS THAT A THREAT??

The President of the United States is now a THREAT to the Nation.

He was a threat before the election.

Since he took office, the nation has been under constant attack and destruction.

He is an enemy of the nation.

46 posted on 12/09/2009 7:18:44 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Danae
IS THAT A THREAT??
The President of the United States is now a THREAT to the Nation.

Abuse of power.

47 posted on 12/09/2009 7:19:12 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Marty62

I work in the coal industry and this gov’t is trying their best to shut us down. They are even talking about putting a freeze on all federal coal leases.

Here is an analysis that was supplied by Troutman Sanders Advisory:

EPA Issues Climate Change Endangerment Finding

EPA announced today that it has promulgated its long-awaited endangerment finding. Evidently timed to coincide with the beginning of the international climate change negotiations in Copenhagen, the Agency’s finding states that elevated atmospheric concentrations of six greenhouse gases (GHGs) emitted by Man – carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons, and sulfur hexafluoride – are contributing to dangerous climate change. According to EPA, “[t]he accumulation of CO2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere can lead to hotter, longer heat waves that threaten the health of the sick, the poor, the elderly - that can increase ground-level ozone pollution linked to asthma and other respiratory illnesses.”

Although the endangerment finding technically is being made in the context of GHG emissions from new motor vehicles, the finding will trigger GHG regulation of a variety of mobile and stationary sources under the Clean Air Act (CAA). The first GHG regulation that EPA will issue will be its light-duty motor vehicle GHG regulation, likely by March 2010. This regulation is being issued jointly with the Department of Transportation and primarily requires improvements in fuel economy for automobiles and light duty trucks beginning in Model Year 2012. Comments on the motor vehicle rulemaking were due on November 27, 2009.

EPA states that once the motor vehicle GHG regulations become effective sixty days after they are issued next March, GHGs will be considered to be regulated pollutants under the Prevention of Significant Deterioration (PSD) air quality permit program. As a result, at that time, new “major” stationary sources of GHG emissions, and modifications of existing “major” stationary sources that “significantly” increase their GHG emissions, will be required to obtain a permit setting forth Best Available Control Technology (BACT) for those emissions.

Both EPA and business in general have a high level of concern that a very large number of sources could be required to obtain PSD permits for their GHG emissions when GHGs become regulated pollutants next year. As a result, to avoid grid-locking the PSD permit system, the Agency has proposed a “tailoring” rule designed to limit applicability of the PSD program to only the largest GHG emitters, at least for an initial five-year period. Under the tailoring rule, “major” sources to which PSD requirements for GHG would become applicable would be those that emit more than 25,000 tons per year (tpy) of CO2 equivalent, and a “significant” increase of GHG emissions from a modification would be defined at a level somewhere between 10,000 and 25,000 tpy. The tailoring rule would also set a 25,000 tpy threshold under the Title V operating permit program.

The legality of the tailoring rule has been questioned, however, as the CAA explicitly defines the PSD “major” source threshold as 100 tpy for sources in 28 industrial categories and 250 tpy for sources in all other categories, and the Title V threshold at 100 tpy. Comments on the tailoring rule proposal are due December 28, 2009.

The endangerment finding is likely to result in other forms of regulation as well. Numerous petitions are pending at EPA from various state and environmental groups seeking regulation of a variety of mobile sources (trucks, airplanes, ships, boats, equipment) and stationary sources. With the endangerment finding issued, EPA is likely to begin acting on these petitions next year. Additionally, last week the Center for Biological Diversity filed a petition with EPA seeking promulgation of a GHG National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS). Granting the petition could lead to highly draconian and unworkable emission control requirements.


48 posted on 12/09/2009 7:19:49 AM PST by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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To: The Comedian

We have to arrest the B-tards first. Does Citizens arrest still exist in the Law?


49 posted on 12/09/2009 7:20:30 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

NO MORE polite talks and debates with that kind of political thugs and croocks!
Republicans have to wake up and go straight to the target in order to hit the head.
Protests and strikes are becoming urgents


50 posted on 12/09/2009 7:20:41 AM PST by Ulysse (a)
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