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Should Conservatives Demand Obama's Birth Certificate?

Posted on 12/09/2009 2:28:37 PM PST by MNDude

I suppose this will be a controversial topic, but I was wondering if everyone feels it's a good idea to keep demanding to see Obama's birth certificate?

If his ratings fall enough, do you think there will be an increase in demands to see it?

Do you think continue asking for this makes people doubt the President, or to conservatives?

How important would you rate this issue compared to other things in the news (healthcare, climategate, stimulus2, etc.)?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; chat; obama; usurper; vanity
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1 posted on 12/09/2009 2:28:38 PM PST by MNDude
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To: MNDude

I’d rather see a dozen birth certificate threads than one more dumb ass Tiger Woods thread.


2 posted on 12/09/2009 2:30:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: MNDude

related/new!...

mp3 interview Tom Fife...the first time i heard of...

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/rense-mp3-interview-wtom-fife-the-first-time-i-ever-heard-of/


3 posted on 12/09/2009 2:30:44 PM PST by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'n Commie Basterd!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m sick of both........


4 posted on 12/09/2009 2:32:32 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: cripplecreek

They should demand Barack’s Student Loan applications and school records. They should demand to see his Indonesian Passport. And what is the date he received his US Passport?


5 posted on 12/09/2009 2:32:52 PM PST by cushman
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To: MNDude

Yeah...keep after it! Something is wrong there or it would have been produced. I’d like to see Sarah Palin get hers and display it to the press and say...okay where’s yours Zero?


6 posted on 12/09/2009 2:33:15 PM PST by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: MNDude

I would think that impeachment would be the quickest way to rid this country of all the destruction this man, and his mob, are planning for America.


7 posted on 12/09/2009 2:33:18 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: MNDude

First, it was fellow his Dems who started the issue when he “ah, disposed of Hillary”. Second, The Dems made a big deal of demanding and receiving John McCain’s birth certificate. They then immediately challenged his eligibility to run for office because he was born in Panama even though his parents were both U.S. Citizens. Why this isn’t a big deal is that we have propagandists not reporters running the traditional news agencies.


8 posted on 12/09/2009 2:34:58 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: MNDude

Yeah, I’ve demanded it, but Obamao is scared, real scared, and he isn’t about to let that BC come out of hiding. I think he would rather resign first.


9 posted on 12/09/2009 2:35:07 PM PST by pallis
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To: MNDude

If he didn’t have one then, I am sure he has one now.

The whole reason he keeps ignoring the requests to see it — is because he makes the “birthers” look like crazy people, and links them to the tea parties, republicans, etc.


10 posted on 12/09/2009 2:36:19 PM PST by PMAS
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To: MNDude

If we keep insisting that he was born in Kenya, we’ll be called kooks. So we should demand to know why he keeps a law firm on retainer and has spent about a million dollars to avoid showing his records— not just the BC, but all his records. What is he hiding?


11 posted on 12/09/2009 2:37:02 PM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: MNDude

Nope. The onus is on Barry O. and I have several, very strident lefty, frinds who are asking me about this.

I had never discussed the subject with them and when I unload and tell them the facts, they are each shocked and want to know how this could happen.

They want to know how Barry O. can even think of passing off The COLB and why he doesn’t just produce the long form, which is more familiar to them.

They have even brought up his entrance into the school system and want to know why “we” don’t just show them ourselves.

Of course, they are amazed to learn they are missing.

They are also becoming concerned their can’t close a closet door, much less a deal.

Inch by inch....


12 posted on 12/09/2009 2:37:35 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MNDude
As an overall issue, it may be a mistake to emphasize it. But I sure would like at least one state to pass a law that any future presidential candidate must show their birth certificate.

Then see what Obama does in 2012.

13 posted on 12/09/2009 2:37:45 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: MNDude

EVERYONE Demand Obama’s Birth Certificate?


14 posted on 12/09/2009 2:39:05 PM PST by FTJM
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To: MNDude

While we are at it...let’s keep demanding to see his campaign contribution list...


15 posted on 12/09/2009 2:39:12 PM PST by surfer
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To: MNDude

I don’t want his birth certificate...I want his head posted on the castle flag pole.


16 posted on 12/09/2009 2:39:29 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: MNDude

Yes, I think it is a very good idea. If his ratings fall enough, I think there will be an increase in demands to see it. I don’ know or care whether continuing to ask for this makes people doubt the President or conservatives.

I think this is a chronic problem, and the others that you mentioned (healthcare, climategate, stimulus2, etc.) are acute problems. Fortunately, we can multitask.


17 posted on 12/09/2009 2:42:02 PM PST by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: MNDude

Ok ask yourself one question:

Do you believe in the Constitution or not?


18 posted on 12/09/2009 2:42:44 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: MNDude

We should be able to see every speck of information regarding our presidential candidates.

Health
Education
Foreign trips
Living abroad
Passports
Social Security validation and the determination if a candidate has more than one, and why
What government services have they been on
Who has gifted them with money for education, travel, other amenities
What associations have they belonged to in the U.S.
Who else belongs to those associations
What groups have they bee associated with while living abroad
Who belongs to those associations
What ideas have they supported
What is their total lifetime of published works, we should be able to read all of it
What papers did they submit during their time in the education system, we should be able to read all of it
What businesses have they been affiliated with
What business partners have they had
What aliases have those partners used
What aliases has the candidate used in their lifetime
Who has sponsored them with donations, logistical or other forms of tangible support

I believe in everyone’s freedom of speech and association. I also believe that when it comes to our political leaders, we have a right to know what they said and who they associated with

I’d like to see a financial report for every national and state level political figure, showing what their financial standing was upon entry into public service, what their salaries were each year they served, and what their financial worth is today.

How do people go to Washington, D.C., barely being a millionaire (if that), and wind up being multi-millionaires on the salaries they are paid?


19 posted on 12/09/2009 2:46:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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To: blasater1960

ABSOLUTELY! Have Palin show her birth certificate on camera and for all to scrutinize and then say, Where’s zero’s?


20 posted on 12/09/2009 2:48:30 PM PST by rtbwood
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To: MNDude
Stop it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 12/09/2009 2:48:47 PM PST by Riodacat (Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: MNDude

While I didn’t mention birth records, I most certainly do think we should be able to see them. If their are extenuation circumstances like a person being able to get one after the fact in a given state, we should know everything there is to know about the exact certificate they have.

All this would be covered under “Health” medical records...


22 posted on 12/09/2009 2:50:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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To: MNDude

Official Birth Certificate, $13.50
Lawyer fees to hide Official Birth Certificate, $1.2 million
Running for President, $730 million

Duping the American public and becoming a non-natural born citizen President of the United States, Priceless


23 posted on 12/09/2009 2:52:00 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: MNDude

Actually, it is a joke. You can demand till hell freezes and all you’ll get is squat.

Think of a different way to achieve the objective.


24 posted on 12/09/2009 2:53:08 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: MNDude

Here’s the deal, Obama rode in on a wave of good will and trust. He was the most SEEMINGLY trustworthy politician ever, and he used that not many people knew the REAL him or history to his advantage. As people come to terms with recognizing that he is worse than the average lying politician, he also is a jerk, then the birth certificate issue will rise up. It will be the issue of “If he lied about that, maybe he DID lie about the birth certificate. And why WON’T he show it?”

So yes, keep the heat on!


25 posted on 12/09/2009 2:55:35 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Riodacat

Who paid for Obama’s education? This isn’t limited to his birth records.

The kid was a general screw-off in high-school, and had a run-in with the law. How did he get admitted to the university he did?

There is a lot we don’t know about this guy. We should have full access. Sadly, when folks go postal because they think we’ve been given access, or already know all we need to know, they’re playing into the mindset of the left.

Shouldn’t we know if his thesis trashed Capitalism and the United States?

I want to know every speck of information about this guy.


26 posted on 12/09/2009 2:55:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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To: MNDude

Regardless of his ratings and his poll numbers, the BC issue is a critical Constitutional issue and deserves a full and complete hearing and resolution.

It’s time to take back the country.


27 posted on 12/09/2009 2:56:18 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: MNDude

Well, if, as it would appear, Obama has committed a criminal fraud, and probably is involved in a criminal conspiracy in association with Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and others, I fail to see why we should give them a free pass on it.

I don’t want a criminal, Communist, Muslim, American-hating, Kenyan racist in the White House. He is doing his best to destroy our country and wreck the lives of our children.


28 posted on 12/09/2009 2:56:51 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MNDude

Not only conservatives should demand to see Obama’s BC — every American who respects his country should want to make sure that there is no illegal alien living in the White House. Isn’t anyone concerned about safeguarding our national security? Every day that we have a potential foreigner in the WH is another day that we are gambling with our safety.

Every other POTUS underwent a background investigation. Why should this one be held above the law? Are there racial considerations, perhaps? If that is the case, we’re really selling out our country for a politically correct reason.


29 posted on 12/09/2009 2:58:28 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: EagleUSA
I would think that impeachment would be the quickest way

Not with a Congress under the control of the far Left of the Democrat Party. Won't happen ... not no how ... (unless, of course, the Democrats no longer control both houses, say after November 2010...)

30 posted on 12/09/2009 3:00:15 PM PST by glennaro
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To: ClearCase_guy
As an overall issue, it may be a mistake to emphasize it......and overall why would it be a mistake to emphasize it...Bull Shitte...the problem with our country is taking "whoosie" positions like that.
31 posted on 12/09/2009 3:00:45 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: 353FMG

The whole thing is a monument to MSM/SCM fraud.

They could produce a full dossier on Joe the plumber Wurzelbacher in 24 hours but they couldn’t do anything on Baraq in 24 months? And all his historical records are in a lockbox? Horsehockey.


32 posted on 12/09/2009 3:03:41 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: cripplecreek

I think the best strategy is for states to update their election laws to MAKE the Secretary of State make publically avialable proof of citizenship as part of getting on the ballot.

Obviously it would take an All Republican state to pass this, one with a Republican governor.


33 posted on 12/09/2009 3:03:44 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: MNDude

Has anyone sold a 1960 printing press? A manual type- writer?

I am expecting a good forgery any day.


34 posted on 12/09/2009 3:14:21 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: MNDude

Has anyone sold a 1960 printing press? A manual type- writer?

I am expecting a good forgery any day.


35 posted on 12/09/2009 3:14:29 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: cripplecreek

I am with you. Keep the pressure up.


36 posted on 12/09/2009 3:15:05 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: MNDude

Conservatives? Everyone should be demanding it. How sad that the country can’t be bothered to check even this most basic of issues: who the heck the man is, where he was born, and if he’s eligible to hold the office he now claims.


37 posted on 12/09/2009 3:16:35 PM PST by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: Lakeshark

You’re sick of birth certificate threads? You don’t care that a pretender might well be holding the highest office in the land, and that his intent could well be to destroy our country? Please bear in mind that if that pretender has his way, you won’t have to worry about reading such threads. You’ll only be able to read the ones the Politburo allows you to read.


38 posted on 12/09/2009 3:19:54 PM PST by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: MNDude

Should Conservatives Demand Obama’s Birth Certificate?

ALL AMERICANS should demand Obama’s Birth Certificate!


39 posted on 12/09/2009 3:21:18 PM PST by Iron Munro (God is great - Beer is good - People are crazy.)
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To: Steamburg
The Dems made a big deal of demanding and receiving John McCain’s birth certificate
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And...As Palin pointed out, the Marxist media went nutz checking into the details of Trigs birth records. Geeze! If an infant's vital records are important, why not Obama’s?

40 posted on 12/09/2009 3:21:43 PM PST by wintertime
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To: cripplecreek
I’d rather see a dozen birth certificate threads than one more dumb ass Tiger Woods thread.

So would I. It's amazing there are so many soap opera FReepers.

41 posted on 12/09/2009 3:21:52 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: 353FMG

“Are there racial considerations, perhaps? If that is the case, we’re really selling out our country for a politically correct reason.”

If they don’t investigate just because he’s black (at least half of him), isn’t that in itself racist?


42 posted on 12/09/2009 3:23:31 PM PST by Bluebeard16
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To: Jack Black

You’re probably right...back in the day (1968) one Sec. of State had the cajones to ask a very black Eldridge Cleaver for his BC, turns out he was only 33 at the time and the Sec’y said sorry you’re too young. But other idiots let him on the ballot and he got something like 40,000+ national votes.

Unfortunately, we’d probably need more than 1 state cuz Zero and his imps could write it off as “we messed up the paperwork on that one”


43 posted on 12/09/2009 3:24:56 PM PST by bjorn14 (Waterboard Obama. See if he knows anything.)
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To: MNDude

The birth certificate issue shouldn’t be a conservative or liberal issue. It is American issue. Maybe American issues are only conservative issues.


44 posted on 12/09/2009 3:32:24 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull

Uh, yeah...it would be nice if the American people were able to have proof that the captain of the ship of state (which is obviously heading toward iceberg waters) is really qualified to be captain. But then, I guess I’m just being silly.


45 posted on 12/09/2009 3:41:32 PM PST by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: castlegreyskull

Uh, yeah...it would be nice if the American people were able to have proof that the captain of the ship of state (which is obviously heading toward iceberg waters) is really qualified to be captain. But then, I guess I’m just being silly.


46 posted on 12/09/2009 3:41:32 PM PST by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: MNDude

If Republicans were smart, they would start laying the groundwork to challenge, in every State of the Union, Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility to appear on the ballot for election to the Office of the President in the 2012 election. He must be so certified as eligible in each and every state and the condition for that ought to be an original long form birth certificate. What are the chances that all 50 states will stonewall?

That said, the Republican Party is the most inept collection of human beings outside of the government of Zimbabwe, so I don’t expect anything to happen.


47 posted on 12/09/2009 3:42:39 PM PST by centurion316
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To: WestwardHo

I don’t give a dman about Zero but he has nice children. Forget the flag pole. You can’t do that!


48 posted on 12/09/2009 3:48:59 PM PST by WellyP
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To: MNDude

That’s the only way to stop this madness.. watch and see. The only Fu#$ing thing we have is this issue.


49 posted on 12/09/2009 3:54:20 PM PST by hot4plasma
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To: Cobra64

If you don’t like the threads, don’t click on them. I hate soap operas on TV. I have enough sense not to watch them.


50 posted on 12/09/2009 4:02:42 PM PST by seemoAR (Stupid is as stupid does.)
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