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Helen Thomas: "Obama Is Now Called A 'War President'"-Escalates War in Afghanistan [GRAPHIC IMAGES]
TheBostonChannel.com ^ | 9 Dec 09 | Helen "Quagmire" Thomas

Posted on 12/10/2009 7:16:07 AM PST by seanmerc

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama had a golden opportunity to become a peacemaker compared to his hawkish predecessor. But he has let that opening evaporate by escalating the war in Afghanistan.

Now he is called a "war president" -- a dubious title that former President George W. Bush personally embraced after starting two devastating wars, one in Afghanistan, the other in Iraq.

In both cases, the U.S. is touting its exit plans. In Iraq, Obama has declared a victory and plans to pull out many troops next year, though leaving thousands behind to secure the Baghdad government. In Afghanistan, Obama has spoken vaguely about a troop drawdown starting in July 2011.

The problem in Iraq is that the sectarian war we nurtured in that oil-rich country -- and invaded on the basis of false intelligence -- is far from over, as evidenced by the suicide bombings in Baghdad this week that took 127 lives and wounded hundreds of Iraqis.

Obama went into Hamlet mode in his prolonged deliberation about Afghanistan before deciding to send 30,000 more troops there in pursuit of Taliban forces and the al Qaida network.

The president was accused of "dithering" by militant Republican lawmakers, most of whom have never known war. Later, he was pilloried for announcing a July 2011 date to begin an Afghanistan exodus.

It must have been tough for the president to prepare a persuasive speech in accepting the Nobel peace prize on Thursday while escalating a war in Central Asia.

Obama’s troop buildup is in line with his campaign promise that Afghanistan was a war of necessity -- as opposed to Iraq -- and that he would target Afghanistan if he became president.

Still, he had a chance to reconsider and begin a withdrawal to save lives.

Considering the domestic problems on his plate, he should have followed the footprints of the Russians, who gave up after some 10 years of warfare in that rugged terrain. In earlier times, both the British and Alexander the Great finally left Afghanistan to the warlike Afghans.

There is a precedent for strategic withdrawal. President Dwight D. Eisenhower --a top commander in World War II ----withdrew most U.S. troops from Korea and settled for an armistice with Pyongyang.

As for interventions in civil wars, a Bill Mauldin cartoon said it all. He showed two muddied GI’s lifting their heads out of a trench and one asks the other: "How can you tell a North Korean from a South Korean?"

No one called Ike a coward when he compromised. Likewise, Americans heaved a sigh of relief when President Ronald Reagan "redeployed" U.S. Marines out of Lebanon in 1983.

Obama should remember his own battle cry and tell the hawks: "Yes, we can."

The U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan, Karl Eikenberry -- formerly the top military commander in that tribal country -- had warned against a troop escalation in secret cables he sent to the State Department.

But in testimony this week on Capitol Hill, Eikenberry -- like a good soldier -- came on board with Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who had requested 40,000 more American troops. NATO allies have promised to dispatch several thousands more troops, bringing the total number to 100,000 under U.S. command.

Eikenberry said the goal is to stabilize Afghanistan and ensure that al Qaida and other terrorist groups cannot regain a foothold there to plan new attacks against the U.S. and its allies.

In an interview with the Financial Times, Gen. David Petraeus -- who heads U.S. Central Command -- insisted that parallels between Iraq and Afghanistan or Vietnam are "highly misleading."

"Afghanistan is not Iraq," or other countries, he said. "It is Afghanistan with its own list of challenges and difficulties."

The difference, he explained, is the low literacy rate in Afghanistan and its shaky central government.

Sorry, general. To me it looks like the same old Vietnam quagmire.

In the vernacular, Obama should know the often repeated phrase: "The way forward" means "out."


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Good morning!
1 posted on 12/10/2009 7:16:07 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

owwww-—too many pixels of rotting flesh


2 posted on 12/10/2009 7:17:05 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: seanmerc

3 posted on 12/10/2009 7:17:54 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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To: seanmerc

SO much for “brinign the troops home immediately”. Obama is a liar.


4 posted on 12/10/2009 7:18:35 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: beckysueb; DirtyHarryY2K; freedomlover; greatdefender; holly go-rightly; hyperconservative; ...
Yoo-hoo, Helen Thomas ping list members! FReepmail me if you'd like to be added to the list.
5 posted on 12/10/2009 7:19:43 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: reagan_fanatic

Okay, where do I send you the bill for my keyboard that just got sprayed with coffee shooting from my nose?


6 posted on 12/10/2009 7:20:01 AM PST by fhayek
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To: seanmerc
and Helen Thomas is a battle ax, but I digress...
7 posted on 12/10/2009 7:20:04 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: seanmerc

That’s way beyond “GRAPHIC”.


8 posted on 12/10/2009 7:20:11 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: reagan_fanatic

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9 posted on 12/10/2009 7:20:16 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: fhayek

I tried to start a keyboard replacement fund on FR but nobody wanted to play. Poster of this article would be required to pony up a dollar to help offset keyboard destruction. Don’t they know, its for the CHILDREN!!!!


10 posted on 12/10/2009 7:22:03 AM PST by wombtotomb
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To: seanmerc
Mein Fuhrer, I can VALK!



(Gentlemen, there's no fighting in here, this is the WAR room!)
11 posted on 12/10/2009 7:25:48 AM PST by SparkyBass
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To: seanmerc

Obama a war president? Like Kerry a war hero!


12 posted on 12/10/2009 7:25:52 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: seanmerc

I know libs like to say we started the war with Afghanistan...but they started it by allowing that country to be the base of operations that resulted in 3,000 Americans being killed. We didn’t start ANYTHING in Afghanistan...and if we don’t pull our heads out of our collective hind-ends...we won’t finish anything either.


13 posted on 12/10/2009 7:29:40 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: seanmerc

http://vodpod.com/watch/1428923-sweden-in-grip-of-islam


14 posted on 12/10/2009 7:31:01 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: DBCJR

You mean Kerry the Purple Heart-decorated wounded Vietnam war hero?


15 posted on 12/10/2009 7:31:12 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
President Barack Obama had a golden opportunity to become a peacemaker compared to his hawkish predecessor. But he has let that opening evaporate by escalating the war in Afghanistan.

No wonder the Norwegians weren't applauding during his speech.

16 posted on 12/10/2009 7:31:32 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: seanmerc; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK

Helen Thomas is an ugly left wing/liberal B$tch, but she has been against any war, regardless of who is president.

She roasted LBJ on a regular basis.

Hopefully, she will continue to baste and roast 0b0z0 on this issue on a regular basis.


17 posted on 12/10/2009 7:31:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: seanmerc

Emergency antidote website

http://www.victoriassecret.com/


18 posted on 12/10/2009 7:31:54 AM PST by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: seanmerc
MY EYES, MY EYES! Photobucket
19 posted on 12/10/2009 7:32:24 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: seanmerc

OH YOU MEANIE!!!!! When you said graphic I thought you meant war related!!!!

Oh, my eyes!!! I think I need a corneal transplant now...OUCH.


20 posted on 12/10/2009 7:34:46 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: pillut48

21 posted on 12/10/2009 7:36:50 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Has Helen had a recent face lift or something? She has improved her looks to resemble the wicked witch of the west.


22 posted on 12/10/2009 7:39:00 AM PST by kempster
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To: kempster
Margaret Hamilton resents that comparison, I'm sure and, frankly, so do I. Margaret was a “pinup girl” by comparison (and sweet, to boot). Long live sweet Maggie's fan club.
23 posted on 12/10/2009 7:42:38 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Grampa Dave
HELLen Thomas knows of no ideal or threat for which there is justification for war. Why? Because like all socialist wanna-bees, she thinks that when the ruling class takes full hold of the working class, she'll be one of the anointed who will dole out the bread and conduct the circuses.

On another completely superfluous note; it must really be hell to be as ugly as she is for as long as she has!

24 posted on 12/10/2009 7:43:52 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: silverleaf; seanmerc

...and in dire need of one of MO’s boob belts.


25 posted on 12/10/2009 7:43:56 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama is a DIC....... Ditherer-in-Chief)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; All

Somebody should check Helens house for Osama bin Laden.


26 posted on 12/10/2009 7:52:31 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: seanmerc

27 posted on 12/10/2009 7:54:31 AM PST by envisio (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: ErnBatavia
...and in dire need of one of MO’s boob belts.

... or a complex system of cables and pulleys.

28 posted on 12/10/2009 8:01:11 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: seanmerc; beckysueb; DirtyHarryY2K; freedomlover; greatdefender; holly go-rightly; ...
Working off the "Blind Hog and Acorn" theory, Ole Hellen has sniffed her way up to an alarming factoid.

There is nothing that BHO, Jr. would rather be
than a "War-Time President."

What better way for him to quiet his critics, establish his legitimacy to hold the office for which he is not constitutionally qualified, and to emulate FDR?

Today at the Nobel PEACE Prize ceremony, he gave the "toughest" most bellicose speech of his career. Reagan or Bush could have written parts of it.

If this SOB thinks a war is necessary to consolidate his power, why then war we shall have! Perhaps it's his way of throwing the Left Under The Bus to make it all his show.

29 posted on 12/10/2009 8:04:44 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Eligibility: I ain't lookin' for answers. Just 1 elected Republican to ask the question.)
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To: seanmerc

My monitor just shattered.


30 posted on 12/10/2009 8:05:01 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Carl LaFong

We’re receiving similar reports from all over the place.


31 posted on 12/10/2009 8:14:49 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: DBCJR
"Obama a war president? Like Kerry a war hero!"

Or Barney Feife as a G-man.....

32 posted on 12/10/2009 8:22:20 AM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: seanmerc

Nice picture of Zeros secret weapon, he will make her get naked in front of Muslims, not only does their religion force them to kill themselves, they will do it just to get the image out of their minds.....


33 posted on 12/10/2009 8:24:30 AM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Sincere apologies to all of the Margaret Hamilton fans. And, I certainly do not want to offend any of the Lassie fans so I guess I will just shut up.


34 posted on 12/10/2009 8:33:41 AM PST by kempster
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To: Grampa Dave

Helen seemed to love JFK, and he was no shirker of war.

I can’t understand these types. Do they think people should just lay down and die, and that talk solves everything?

Rush called this last year. He said Obama is giving all this antiwar garbage, but when he gets in, he’ll find he can’t leave. We are in there for a reason. Even Code Pink went over to talk to people, and found they don’t want us out.

If the Nobel Peace Prize truly went to the right person, Bush should get it for freeing the women of Afghanistan.


35 posted on 12/10/2009 8:40:31 AM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: seanmerc

does that mean that helen isn’t thankful for a BLACK President anymore?


36 posted on 12/10/2009 8:45:10 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: kempster

;-). Lassie would never show her face in public again. They broke the mold when they made Helen. I’ve never seen anyone with whom I could compare her. ;-)


37 posted on 12/10/2009 9:29:04 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: seanmerc

38 posted on 12/10/2009 9:34:22 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: seanmerc

so was it her who played the human-fly hybrid in the 1986 movie version of the fly and not jeff goldblum?


39 posted on 12/10/2009 9:41:54 AM PST by Dominic01 ("...You know the one with the big ears? He ain't my President" - Etta James)
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To: paulycy

CLASSIC! Mind if I steal it?


40 posted on 12/10/2009 12:02:07 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
CLASSIC! Mind if I steal it?

Heck no! It's all for fun. :0)

41 posted on 12/10/2009 12:29:04 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: seanmerc

Who lied about his swift boat experience, harassed his CO to get his Purple Heart, then threw someone else’s medals at the White House claiming they were his as he called our troops baby killers? Yes, that John Kerry.


42 posted on 12/10/2009 2:17:42 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: seanmerc

Oh, my goodness. I repeat: I don’t know which is the more horrific—Helen’s pic or her prose...


43 posted on 12/10/2009 2:18:27 PM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: kempster

Collie = beautiful.

Pick some ugly dog, of which there are many!


44 posted on 12/10/2009 6:50:26 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: paulycy; seanmerc
Blasphemy!
now you've done it!

45 posted on 12/16/2009 9:58:39 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: paulycy

Well, there goes lunch...


46 posted on 12/16/2009 10:01:45 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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