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Swine flu may be less deadly than first feared
MS DNC ^ | 12/10/09 | ap

Posted on 12/10/2009 2:06:23 PM PST by Nachum

LONDON - Swine flu is far less dangerous than originally feared, British officials said Thursday — about 100 times less lethal than the 1918 Spanish flu.

To determine how deadly the virus is, the British health department tracked all reported swine flu patients hospitalized between July and November. In a paper published online in the British journal, BMJ, experts estimated that out of every 100,000 infected people in Britain, about 26 died.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deadly; feared; first; flu; h1n1; influenza; less; swine; swineflu
Weeeeeelll, I guess the spin doctors have to get to work.
1 posted on 12/10/2009 2:06:26 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

No way.

You mean there is neither global warming nor a swine flu crisis?


2 posted on 12/10/2009 2:08:48 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Nachum

Wow, no kiddin.


3 posted on 12/10/2009 2:09:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Nachum

“Weeeeeelll, I guess the spin doctors have to get to work.”

First of all, we now know that British researchers are about as truthful as US politicians, putting both just below used car salesmen.

Second, no spin required on this one, they just don’t talk about it.


4 posted on 12/10/2009 2:13:21 PM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: Nachum

Someone had better let Obama know, so he can cancel the state of emergency. I’m sure he’ll be happy to put peoples’ minds at ease over this.

/sarc


5 posted on 12/10/2009 2:14:10 PM PST by Deo volente (Sarah Palin was right. There ARE death panels in the bill.)
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To: Nachum

And Al Gore COULD be lying about the polar ice caps COMPLETELY melting by 2030. Right MSDNCPRAVDA?


6 posted on 12/10/2009 2:16:09 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: Nachum

Well, then it’s official. LMAO

Months late and hundreds of millions short...

My wife has had the flu twice so far this fall. She got both flu vaccines, and I haven’t had either. She couldn’t even pass it off to me.

Oh the humanities...


7 posted on 12/10/2009 2:16:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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So, we're back to calling it "swine flu" again? What the heck happened to "H1N1"?

This little piggy went to market, This little piggy stayed at home, This little piggy had roast beef, This little piggy had none. And THIS little piggy got "Wee-wee'd"...all the way home.

Oink.

8 posted on 12/10/2009 2:17:53 PM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Nachum
" experts estimated that out of every 100,000 infected people in Britain, about 26 died."

Wow, thats 0.026% mortality; its almost as deadly as Hay Feaver!

Better quarantine the whole city if anyone gets infected.

9 posted on 12/10/2009 2:20:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: brownsfan
"First of all, we now know that British researchers are about as truthful as US politicians..."

And about five times as truthful as US 'researchers' have been on this imaginary flu!

10 posted on 12/10/2009 2:23:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: DoughtyOne
"My wife has had the flu twice so far this fall. She got both flu vaccines..."

Well, that works out perfect; two vaccines, two flus!

11 posted on 12/10/2009 2:26:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: neverdem

The Big One!


12 posted on 12/10/2009 2:27:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, she’s batting a thousand. I kidded her by suggesting she refrain from any further flu vaccines this year. Course she’s had them both, so no danger of that.


13 posted on 12/10/2009 2:30:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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To: Nachum
This is what Comcast News has to say (today's post) about swine flu in America:

CDC: About 1 in 6 Americans have had swine flu

ATLANTA — Health officials now estimate that swine flu has sickened nearly 50 million Americans and killed nearly 10,000.

The new estimates mean about 1 in 6 Americans have had the illness. The figures were released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday.

The CDC also estimates that 200,000 people have been hospitalized since the virus was first identified in April though mid-November. That's the same amount that occurs normally in an entire flu season.

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The death toll seems high ...
14 posted on 12/10/2009 2:31:13 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: editor-surveyor

thanks, bfl


15 posted on 12/10/2009 2:33:28 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: mlizzy
It's complete BS. Another contrived emergency by the Obummer crew and the world government lobby. Get used to it though. We are going to live in perpetual crisis so that they can “do what is necessary” meaning crush all dissent and liberty. Hope you like living in mediocrity and poverty because it is coming.
16 posted on 12/10/2009 3:14:24 PM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: mlizzy; All
...ATLANTA — Health officials now estimate that swine flu has sickened nearly 50 million Americans and killed nearly 10,000....

...

The death toll seems high ...


Nah... that 0.02% mortality, a little less than the English number quoted...

If my calculator got all of it's zeros correct...

17 posted on 12/10/2009 4:02:14 PM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: Nachum

Shocked I tell ya! Shocked!


18 posted on 12/10/2009 4:04:27 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: editor-surveyor; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; ...
micro ping

Mortality from pandemic A/H1N1 2009 influenza in England: public health surveillance study

interesting results, IMHO.

19 posted on 12/12/2009 1:29:57 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping... (Thanks, neverdem!)



Also, keep up with other H1N1 update stories on this thread: H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread] thanks to DvdMom and others.

20 posted on 12/12/2009 1:40:54 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mlizzy

It is. The odd thing is that the biggest toll is on the 18-25 year old age group. They have been hit very hard and fast — even many that got the vaccination. The Military has been hit very hard on large bases.


21 posted on 12/12/2009 1:48:46 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Nachum

Didn’t kill me.

But it’s still pretty FN nasty! Sick for about 8 days, four days in bed...


22 posted on 12/12/2009 2:24:59 AM PST by djf (Islam is NOT a religion. Religion is about man and God. Islam is man vs. man, a political theory!)
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To: neverdem

“What would they do if they gave a pandemic, and nobody came?”

The flu that wasn’t!


23 posted on 12/12/2009 10:35:50 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: djf
Didn’t kill me. But it’s still pretty FN nasty! Sick for about 8 days, four days in bed...

No, it hasn't killed me yet (day 5 today) but OH how it's trying.

I have NEVER EVER been this sick in my LIFE.

24 posted on 12/12/2009 10:41:29 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: mad_as_he$$
"The odd thing is that the biggest toll is on the 18-25 year old age group."

Myth!

Truth: (from the Journal article)

Results
"With the official mid-range estimate for incidence of pandemic A/H1N1, the overall estimated case fatality rate was 26 (range 11-66) per 100 000. It was lowest for children aged 5-14 (11 (range 3-36) per 100 000) and highest for those aged 65 (980 (range 300-3200) per 100 000)..."

25 posted on 12/12/2009 10:43:41 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: mbarker12474
"You mean there is neither global warming nor a swine flu crisis?"

No crisis? - What are we going to do? This is a crisis!

.

26 posted on 12/12/2009 10:45:30 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: mlizzy
"The death toll seems high ..."

The CDC has no data available to support this propaganda.(shades of global warming)

They need deaths for their agency to get increased funding (the primary goal of every govt agency) so they will not post any true data, just "estimates."

27 posted on 12/12/2009 10:50:07 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Nachum

I’ve had it...I had fever for a few days, cough, runny nose, headache. I had a rhino virus earlier that made me sicker and lasted longer...although I had no fever with it.

Funny how that works...Only thing I did for the flu was take elderberry supplements and some vitamin D3, stayed in and drank plenty of fluids.


28 posted on 12/12/2009 10:50:35 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Without the Constitution, there is no America!)
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To: editor-surveyor
NOT a myth. I have family in the medical field. H1N1 is attacking and often killing young adults. It attacks the respiratory system and in particular the airways. It is less of a threat now because autopsies found this out and the medical community has responded. Initially the CDC told them it was heart involvement. My family was at the bedsides of young healthy adults that died from it in different parts of the country. So if you want to believe the propaganda go ahead. I have people I know and trust who have witnessed it with their own eyes.
29 posted on 12/12/2009 11:00:21 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Yaelle

For me, I ate eggs every day. The protein in eggs is just about exactly what you need to boost your immune system.

And I drank lemonade - GALLONS of it!!

Good luck, hang in there!


30 posted on 12/12/2009 3:14:36 PM PST by djf (Islam is NOT a religion. Religion is about man and God. Islam is man vs. man, a political theory!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

So the stats in the journal aree wrong, and the anecdotes are right?


31 posted on 12/12/2009 3:39:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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