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[Australia's] Joyce warns of US [financial] 'Armageddon'
source cannot be posted | December 11, 2009

Posted on 12/10/2009 6:21:47 PM PST by Lorianne

see link in post below


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: financialmeltdown
Joyce warns of US 'Armageddon' http://www.smh.com.au/national/joyce-warns-of-us-armageddon-20091210-kmby.html

Related: Dems to lift debt ceiling by $1.8 trillion, fear 2010 backlash http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30417.html

1 posted on 12/10/2009 6:21:48 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

opposition finance minister. We really need him as finance minister as he seem to be the only one who gets it


2 posted on 12/10/2009 6:23:47 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Lorianne

I predict that the US will default, but not likely on Obama’s watch. He’s only creating a problem to hand to his successors.


3 posted on 12/10/2009 6:24:51 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Lorianne
Guns & Ammo!
4 posted on 12/10/2009 6:27:00 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Brilliant

Invest in Green ink and Wheelbarrows!


5 posted on 12/10/2009 6:34:08 PM PST by Gapplega
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To: Brilliant

How will the US default when they can print however much they need? Hyper inflation, maybe, but an outright default? I don’t know about that.

I’m more concerned that the buying power of my pension and savings will deteriorate. Sure, I might have thousands of dollars, but will that be enough to buy me enough to eat?


6 posted on 12/10/2009 6:35:47 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Lorianne

The clowns in DC will keep piling on (and eveb accerating) the spending and regulations right up until the day we default. Count on it!


7 posted on 12/10/2009 6:39:21 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: CitizenUSA
"I’m more concerned that the buying power of my pension and savings will deteriorate. .."

Rest easy, your buying power will most certainly deteriorate. So, don't worry about that.


8 posted on 12/10/2009 6:45:22 PM PST by Leisler (We don't need a third party we need a conservative second party.)
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To: CitizenUSA
Hyper inflation, maybe, but an outright default? I don’t know about that.

Inflation makes Rahm Emmanuel (et al) poorer - deflation makes him richer. Which do you think the administration will pick?

9 posted on 12/10/2009 7:08:59 PM PST by The Duke (Socialism is cool until somebody loses their paycheck.)
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To: Lorianne

According to Greenspan/Guidotti rule USA already in default

The rule states: To avoid a default, countries should maintain hard currency reserves equal to at least 100% of their short-term foreign debt maturities. The world’s largest money management firm, PIMCO, explains the rule this way: “The minimum benchmark of reserves equal to at least 100% of short-term external debt is known as the Greenspan-Guidotti rule. Greenspan-Guidotti is perhaps the single concept of reserve adequacy that has the most adherents and empirical support.”

The principle behind the rule is simple. If you can’t pay off all of your foreign debts in the next 12 months, you’re a terrible credit risk. Speculators are going to target your bonds and your currency, making it impossible to refinance your debts. A default is assured

So how does America rank on the Greenspan-Guidotti scale? It’s a guaranteed default. The U.S. holds gold, oil, and foreign currency in reserve. The U.S. has 8,133.5 metric tonnes of gold (it is the world’s largest holder). That’s 16,267,000 pounds. At current dollar values, it’s worth around $300 billion. The U.S. strategic petroleum reserve shows a current total position of 725 million barrels. At current dollar prices, that’s roughly $58 billion worth of oil. And according to the IMF, the U.S. has $136 billion in foreign currency reserves. So altogether... that’s around $500 billion of reserves. Our short-term foreign debts are far bigger

The Office of Management and Budget is predicting a $1.5 trillion budget deficit over the next year. That puts our total funding requirements on the order of $3.5 trillion over the next 12 months


10 posted on 12/10/2009 7:33:11 PM PST by sbark
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To: sbark

Well time to start selling off parts of the federal property in the West. There are millions of acres to be sold, the federal government owning a majority of the land in most states west of the mississippi.


11 posted on 12/10/2009 7:47:18 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: MSF BU

sell off gov property, and drill baby, drill


12 posted on 12/10/2009 8:21:28 PM PST by joelt
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To: MSF BU

..maybe the Red States could just buy their way out instead of hasseling with the 10th amend or as Tex Gov Perry-sececede....


13 posted on 12/10/2009 8:26:13 PM PST by sbark
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To: joelt
and drill baby, drill

I'll second that. I've always exhorted, supported and invested in renewables, but our internal energy resources, of every type, are the only way out.

14 posted on 12/10/2009 9:37:47 PM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yes, Guns and Ammo are important, but I would also like to buy some land that I could uses as a defensive base and farm on. Some place where I can find some like minded people who believe in defending personal freedom with a strong attachment to GOD.


15 posted on 12/11/2009 6:06:21 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: CitizenUSA

They can’t just print more. There is a political limit to what they can print, just as there is a political limit to what they can tax. And there are also economic limits. Look at Zimbabwe. Unlimited printing of money doesn’t solve your money problems. As soon as the voters elect politicians who won’t pay the debt, the debt will not get paid. And ironically, that will solve the debt problem because no one is going to loan money to the US if it doesn’t pay its debts.


16 posted on 12/11/2009 8:06:21 PM PST by Brilliant
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