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THE EPA'S CARBON BOMB FIZZLES
WSJ ^ | December 10, 2009 | Kim Strassel

Posted on 12/10/2009 10:16:39 PM PST by sinanju

"...President Obama, having failed to get climate legislation, didn't want to show up to the Copenhagen climate talks with a big, fat nothing. So the EPA pulled the pin. In doing so, it exploded its own threat.

Far from alarm, the feeling sweeping through many quarters of the Democratic Congress is relief. Voters know cap-and-trade is Washington code for painful new energy taxes. With a recession on, the subject has become poisonous in congressional districts. Blue Dogs and swing-state senators watched in alarm as local Democrats in the recent Virginia and New Jersey elections were pounded on the issue, and lost their seats.

But now? Hurrah! It's the administration's problem! No one can say Washington isn't doing something; the EPA has it under control. The agency's move gives Congress a further excuse not to act.

"The Obama administration now owns this political hot potato," says one industry source. "If I'm [Nebraska Senator] Ben Nelson or [North Dakota Senator] Kent Conrad, why would I ever want to take it back?"

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbontrade; christianright; climategate; globalwarming; globalwarmingfraud; globalwarminghoax; jameshansen
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Exactly. That is the language. They are emboldened to use it, just as was Andy Stern of SEIU (Obama's most frequent Whitehouse visitor) exhorting "workers of the world unite".
21 posted on 12/11/2009 6:08:34 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: sinanju

Citizens can, indeed, sue the EPA under the Data Quality Act.

DQA demands that agencies issue regulations based on objective, provable scientific data. And agencies MUST provide a means for AFFECTED citizens (That’s everyone) to correct the data.

Anyone who has a bit of time should demand to see the data the criminal EPA used to issue this illegal regulation. And if the EPA doesn’t comply with the request, a million lawsuits would shut the EPA down. It should also lead to the criminal convictions of the fascists at EPA. And believe me, the EPA is a criminal enterprise from top to bottom.

Here’s a link with more info:
http://library.findlaw.com/2003/Jan/14/132464.html

The troubles for the criminals in the obuma administration are just beginning. King obuma’s connection to the Chicago Climate Exchange and the EPA ruling will lead to his impeachment.


22 posted on 12/11/2009 6:21:58 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: blueplum

I see it already happening.


23 posted on 12/11/2009 7:27:06 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: sergeantdave

And what is to stop them from suspending this proviso or denying the legal actions?

Not saying that legal action is a waste of time just that this bunch of thugs don’t care much about the rule-of-law. Their attitude is, “Go ahead, stop me.” Each time we try and fail, as we have since they keep spending and pushing their agenda, they become more bold.


24 posted on 12/11/2009 7:53:00 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: sinanju
Industry groups are gearing up for a legal onslaught; and don't underestimate their prospects. The leaked emails from the Climatic Research Unit in England alone are a gold mine for those who want to challenge the science underlying the theory of manmade global warming."

How do you spell DISCOVERY?

This has the potential to shake loose all that data that Hansen, et al over at NASA are holding on to so tightly.

25 posted on 12/11/2009 1:27:32 PM PST by Sparticus (Libs, they're so open minded that their brains leaked out.)
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To: Sparticus

Hansen and his NASA GISS are the 2nd leg of the tripod. He must really be flop-sweating as the Competitive Enterprise Institute lawsuit inches through the courts.

Unlike the Climate Research Unit of East Anglia University Hansen already has a few prior convictions.


26 posted on 12/11/2009 1:31:08 PM PST by sinanju
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To: sinanju
Unlike the Climate Research Unit of East Anglia University Hansen already has a few prior convictions.

What convictions are they? I went looking. I couldn't find any.

When you learn of a lightly publicized agreement with Canada for a pipeline to carry oil squeezed from tar sands to the United States, when the president advocates an ineffectual cap-and-trade approach for controlling carbon emissions, when our government funnels billions of dollars to support "clean coal" while treating next-generation nuclear power almost as a pariah, you can recognize right away that our government is not taking a strategic approach to solve the climate problem.

Hansen's some kind of moonbat, but he appears to advocate nuclear energy.

27 posted on 12/11/2009 2:23:56 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem; sinanju

I heard Hansen today on a radio program...maybe Rush played a clip? What he sounded like to me was a bureaucrat who really wants to keep his job and rise in the system.

I thought he was trying to avoid saying anything that could be held against him - by either side. He’s probably a moonbat, but what he is mostly is a functionary doing what he thinks will keep him in his job. He may have personal opinions, but he’s willing to forget them if they prove inconvenient.


28 posted on 12/11/2009 2:45:46 PM PST by livius
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To: sergeantdave

Post of the day

Attaboy


29 posted on 12/11/2009 3:05:13 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: sinanju

Can someone tell me if the EPA will ban the carbonation in my Dr. Pepper? That’s what I want to know...


30 posted on 12/11/2009 3:08:35 PM PST by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: steelyourfaith

LOL...I hope they’re right!!!


31 posted on 12/11/2009 3:18:48 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Sparticus
 
 
Yep - discovery, depositions, subpoenas, cross-examination, affidavits - the whole works. Problem is, will there actually be a truly objective and non-corrupted court system to be found on planet earth to even try it in.
 
 

32 posted on 12/11/2009 3:45:32 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: neverdem; sergeantdave; sinanju

Thanks for the ping. Interesting post & thread.


33 posted on 12/11/2009 4:39:41 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Senator_Blutarski

I do believe they will ban yeasts, so there goes the beer and booze.


34 posted on 12/11/2009 5:24:04 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: oyez

Stock up now: guns, ammo, food, water & BOOZE!


35 posted on 12/11/2009 5:27:08 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: sinanju

Oh but they are mistaken to think that all of the dems won’t be blamed for what Obama’s adminstration is doing just as all republican’s were blamed in 2006 for Bush.


36 posted on 12/11/2009 6:23:13 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: lowbuck

I keep thinking that the bi partician committee to be formed on reduing the deficit should suggest that the EPA be cut and the duties turned over to Health and Human services. The transition would take up most of the rest of Obama’s only term and save the country from further destruction.


37 posted on 12/11/2009 6:26:01 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; steelyourfaith
"If [Congress doesn't] pass this legislation," the EPA is going to have to "regulate in a command-and-control way

From an earlier vanity of mine:

An interesting and prescient quotation in this regard comes from John Locke’s Second Treatise of Government §141, 1689:

” The power of the Legislative being derived from the People by a positive voluntary Grant and Institution, can be no other, than what that positive Grant conveyed, which being only to make Laws, and not to make Legislators, the Legislative can have no power to transfer their Authority of making Laws, and place it in other hands.”

Cheers!

38 posted on 12/11/2009 6:59:46 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: sinanju

“Industry groups are gearing up for a legal onslaught; and don’t underestimate their prospects. The leaked emails from the Climatic Research Unit in England alone are a gold mine for those who want to challenge the science underlying the theory of manmade global warming.” “

As a climate scientist might say .... “Oh Snap! We actually have to prove CO2 is harmful?”


39 posted on 12/11/2009 8:30:17 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Sparticus

The other thing they can bring in to the courtroom will be the internal EPA memos.

And of course exposure on all the suspect science.

THIS is the kind of evidence that needs to be in the courtroom:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/11/giss-raw-station-data-before-and-after/#more-14001


40 posted on 12/11/2009 9:55:42 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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