Obama’s Birth Announcement in 1961 confirmed

The Post and Email ^ | Dec. 11, 2009 | John Charlton

[Electric Graffiti]

STAR BULLETIN EDITION OF AUG. 14TH, ON FILE AT BERKLEY IDENTICAL TO PUBLISHED IMAGES by John Charlton

The Post & Email has just received PDF files from a highly credible source, establishing that the birth annoucement in the Star Bulletin Edition of Aug. 14, 1961, for Barack Hussein Obama, is authentic.

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[tired_old_conservative]

“So when the Founding Fathers grandfathered themselves eligible because some were born here, but not natural born citizens, they must have been birthers?”

Well, in all honesty, it's kind of hard to be a natural born citizen of a country that didn't exist when you were born, regardless of who your parents were.

[Lower55]

“What leads you to this conclusion?”

Because that’s what happened. Were you there?

[Lower55]

“So, you think Obama at say age 19, could have walked into the British counsel in DC and walked out with a Commonwealth passport? “

I don’t care what he could do at say 19. He’s not a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

It will come out sooner or later.

[Lower55]

“Complete nonsense there are only 2 classes of citizens, natural born and naturalized. “

Not nonsense at all. There’s native born and naturalized. Natural born citizens have citizen parents. That’s why the Founding Fathers grandfathered themselves eligibility. Otherwise there would have been no reason to do that.

They did it. You are completely wrong.

[Lower55]

“Well, in all honesty, it’s kind of hard to be a natural born citizen of a country that didn’t exist when you were born, regardless of who your parents were.
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You obviously haven’t read what they had written.

You didn’t have to be a NBC if you were covered under their words.

But, if you were born after the document was written, you had to be a NBC, meaning born on US soil to citizen parents.

[El Sordo]

I watched it on television like most everyone else.

Chief Justice Robert administered the Oath of Office to BHO, but unfortunately flubbed a line.

So just to keep everything in order, the oath was administered again by Judge Roberts a day or so later at the White House in front of numerous witnesses. And he apparently got it right that time.

You may have noticed that BHO has been living in the White House since then.

So, if you want to claim that something else happened it would be keen if you could justify that.

[danamco]

You are a real good Tap-Dancer like the ballet maestro Rahm Emanuel

[danamco]

Once the new rules go into effect Jan. 1, anyone who wants to update a driver’s license will need to bring four pieces of identification, such as Social Security cards, U.S. passports and certified birth certificates.,hmmmm!!!

[Lower55]

Nope, you got it this time.

[danamco]

ST. PETERSBURG — Starting in January, getting a new driver’s license will become a lot more difficult.

Once the new rules go into effect Jan. 1, anyone who wants to update a driver’s license will need to bring four pieces of identification, such as Social Security cards, U.S. passports and certified birth certificates.

[tired_old_conservative]

“You obviously haven’t read what they had written.

You didn’t have to be a NBC if you were covered under their words.

But, if you were born after the document was written, you had to be a NBC, meaning born on US soil to citizen parents.”

That's what I said. The requirement to be a natural born citizen effectively eliminates everyone who was born before the country to which they would become citizens was created. It would have ruled out the first nine Presidents. That's the common sense issue the Founders were addressing with the grandfather clause, not concerns over which among them had what parents.

[jamese777]

You are a real good Tap-Dancer like the ballet maestro Rahm Emanuel

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Yawn.
I suggest that you grow up and learn how to debate issues like an adult. Resorting to silly ad hominems is childish.

What I am after in the Obama eligibility issue is an end to frivolous civil law suits that thus far have been dismissed, denied a hearing or defeated 60 times and won no times and instead I want ANY prosecuting attorney (a state Attorney General or a local or county District Attorney) in the US to seek a subpoena for Obama’s vault copy, long form Certificate of Live Birth. Subpoenas of confidential vital records are allowed under Hawaii law but it is likely that seeking a subpoena would need to be tied to a Grand Jury investigation to determine whether the short form COLB posted on the internet by Obama was fraudulent or forged.
Prosecuting attorneys use Grand Jury investigations all the time to go on legal “fishing expeditions.” If everything is on the up and up with Obama’s short and long form birth records, then “ho harm, no foul.” If the short form is fraudulent or forged, Obama’s impeachment trial can proceeded faster than you can say “Rod Blagojevich.”

[jamese777]

“You obviously haven’t read what they had written.
You didn’t have to be a NBC if you were covered under their words.

But, if you were born after the document was written, you had to be a NBC, meaning born on US soil to citizen parents.”

That’s what I said. The requirement to be a natural born citizen effectively eliminates everyone who was born before the country to which they would become citizens was created. It would have ruled out the first nine Presidents. That’s the common sense issue the Founders were addressing with the grandfather clause, not concerns over which among them had what parents.

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The 14th amendment takes legal precedent here. “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
There is no case law which says that presidential candidates, presidents or vice president must have two native born parents, in fact the issue has never been adjudicated in any court, ever.

[curiosity]

Have you ever personally dealt with any US consulates on an immigration issue in the sixties???

No, but I have friends who have. It you are a US citizen, you get treated quite well at US consolates. That was true then as it is true now.

[curiosity]

It could have been Madelyn Dunham who, in the first week after BHO II was born, may have been aware of how easily HI birth and US citizenship could be established and filed a report of home birth not knowing when or if Stanley Ann would return from Kenya.

She could have, but it would have been totally unnecessary under immigration law at the time. Since his mother was a US citizen, her grandson was eligible to receive US citizenship any time before his 18th birthday.

Now why would grandma commit purjury and risk jail time to obtain something that could be easily obtained legally?

[x]

Okay, so you wanted somebody to prove that Obama's mother was a citizen, and somebody else said that his grandmother didn't have a birth certificate.

I got the two confused. My mistake, but the same argument still applies.

Does anybody really doubt that his mother's parents or his maternal grandmother's parents were US citizens? What's the alternative? Were they Germans or Russians who secretly entered the country to spy and sabotage? Japanese maybe?

And do you really doubt that his mother or his mother's mother were born here? Was his grandmother going to take a trip to Vancouver or Tijuana or Nairobi to have a baby? Remember this was wartime -- 1942, when everyone was asking "Is this trip necessary?" in order to save gasoline? Use your head if you have one.

I see by your forum postings you are here to make trouble.

I could say the same thing about you? Are we here to come up with cockamamie speculations? Is questioning moronic scenarios making trouble?

Don’t bother posting back on your mistaken posting.

Too late, but I could say the same thing to you.

[danamco]

Reagan would have thought you were a fool.

Hey oldie, tell us how you were able to get into President Reagan's head, huh???

[danamco]

No, but I have friends who have. It you are a US citizen, you get treated quite well at US consolates.

WOW, I also have friends who have friends, etc. In opposite to YOU, I have dealt with U.S. consulates and Immigration Offices my entire working career and can tell you you don't know what you are talking about, regardless of what your friend told you!!!

[curiosity]

WOW, I also have friends who have friends, etc. In opposite to YOU,

I have personally dealt with consulates recently, and as a US citizen I was treated with the utmost respect and with excellent customer service. Being only in my third decade of life, however, I am not old enough to have dealt with consulates in the 1960's. My knowledge of consulates during that era is through friends. I have dealt with U.S. consulates and Immigration Offices my entire working career

I don't believe you. I doubt you are old enough to have had much of a career, much less have dealt with consulates in the 1960's. Your posts reveal the maturity level of a teenager.

[danamco]

I have dealt with U.S. consulates and Immigration Offices my entire working career

I don't believe you. I doubt you are old enough to have had much of a career, much less have dealt with consulates in the 1960's. Your posts reveal the maturity level of a teenager.

Thank you for your "youthful" insight, and your age should tell that you just have come out of the teen-age state, but your mindset shows something different, that you never came out and you still is a schooled brainwash "student" knowing zilch about world history!

As born in 1931 and lived in an occupied COPENHAGEN, - not by crazy environmental hoaxer now, - but by nasty oppressive NAZIS when we had to scramble every day to FIND food, and then having a 30+ years career as an Officer in the Merchant Marine!

I dealt daily with many nations consulates all over the world, including USSR, and especially the U.S. consulates and the INS, during the time from 1951 to 1983!!

If you think that consulate businesses was done the same during that period as they are today, you certainly need to go and have your "ear dried behind them." And I couldn't care less if you believe me or not!!!