Skip to comments.Obama’s Birth Announcement in 1961 confirmed
Posted on 12/11/2009 1:04:21 AM PST by Electric Graffiti
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Let one run and we'll find out.
It was Peru,Kansas Madelyn was supposedly born.
Or maybe it was Peru and that is why I can’t find her BC.
Then why doesn't Obama speak up? Why doesn't SCOTUS say it is settled law? Why the multiple court cases and refusal to show the BC?
Hells bells, if it is settled law, then Obama needs to settle this once and for all.
azishot ~ Did you ever get an answer? I'm wondering, too.
Of course not. He needs to talk to his handlers to formulate a way out of the box he put himself in.
Maybe they'll just dock his pay.
Or maybe they could "retire" him like they did Leiutenant Quarles Harris...
Fake to me because Obama refuses to send it along to court for verification he is NBC. Fake because I do not believe Obama is above the same law I have to adhere too. Because I do not want to pay for Obama's legal defense because he refuses to show his BC as we all have to do when it is basic and very simple to do.
Why should he?
Fake because I do not believe Obama is above the same law I have to adhere too.
Really? Did you have to present your birth certificate when you ran for president?
Because I do not want to pay for Obama's legal defense because he refuses to show his BC as we all have to do when it is basic and very simple to do.
Can't help you there. Sue the President and the U.S. Attorney's office handles the defense. It's the way it's always been.
Don’t go by the date exactly. If you wanted to hide vital records you would change dates.
I think the census records showed her age at the time. Let me see if I kept them.
Sat Sep 19 14:04:26 2009 · 226 of 279So now having gotten away with Barry, you want to further push the envelop?
Non-Sequitur to null and void
(nully) I'm confused. Do you think anchor babies aren't citizens, or merely that any citizen can become president under the Constitution?
(N-S) Of course not. Only natural born citizens can be president.
If he's spent that much, it's been to respond to all these cases being filed against him, many of which would go ahead regardless of whether he released his birth certificate. The Chrysler case, for example, has nothing to do with Obama being born outside the country and instead focuses on his dual citizenship.
In other words, Obama could release his birth certificate today, and he would still spend money on legal fees responding to challenges to his eligibility.
Would this be the same birth announcement that does not say where little Barry was born? What hospital, doctor, weight etc? Plus, lists an address where another family with no connections to Obama is proven to have lived?
I can't imagine how anyone can do a better job of demeaning you than you do yourself. But you've probably had more practice at it than anyone else.
Well I'll just have to learn to live with your disappointment.
I appreciate that...
Location of Birth
Birth Cert #
Barack Hussein Obama II
Kapiolani Medical Center
Aug. 4, 1961 7:24 pm
Susan Elizabeth Nordyke
Kapiolani Medical Center
Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 pm
Gretchen Carter Nordyke
Kapiolani Medical Center
Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 pm
That always stumps the trolls.
There is also a question of where this information was obtained?
Was it obtained from the hospital subsequent to Obama’s birth, or was it obtained from the hall of records, the official place of government documentation?
Another words, could Obama’s folks have filed a formal documentation of birth at the hall of records, even though he wasn’t born in Hawaii, and the paper have merely picked up on that information to publish a birth announcement?
The long form and the underlying justification for it is what should be provided.
OPompous is fighting the release of that. Why? What possible legitimate reason could he have?
Twin sisters, Obama on parallel paths for years
Born in same hospital within hours of each other, educated together
Retracing the steps of history, Eleanor Nordyke now realizes that she was in labor with twin daughters while Barack Obama, now the president-elect, was being born at what is now Kapi-’olani Medical Center for Women & Children.
The twins, Susan “Nunu” Bell and Gretchen “Nini” Worthington, were not only born in the same hospital hours after the future president, but also ended up in the same classes with Obama at Noelani Elementary School and later at Punahou School from the seventh grade to graduation in 1979.
“I think it was remarkable that they just so happened to be born within 24 hours of each other and grew up knowing each other,” Nordyke said.
She did not know Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, while they were in labor together on Aug. 4, 1961, at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
But Nordyke was a population research fellow at the East-West Center while Dunham was there. And Nordyke later met Madelyn Dunham Ann Dunham’s mother and Obama’s grandmother during a cruise to Tahiti in 2002.
“She was placed at our table on the ship,” Nordyke said. “She sat with us on that ship for three weeks. She told us that her daughter had passed away and that she had raised her grandson, and he was a social worker in Chicago.”
When Obama was making his successful presidential run, Nordyke realized that her daughters were born within hours of him at the same hospital.
The Hawai’i certificate of live birth that Obama displays on his Web site shows he was born at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4.
Nordyke was well into labor by then with girls who were three weeks premature. By 2 p.m. the following day, Susan was born at 5 pounds, 12 ounces, and Gretchen weighed in at 6 pounds, 4 ounces.
As toddlers, the girls called each other “Nunu” and “Nini” “and the other children picked it up, and we held onto it all this time,” Nordyke said.
With the names Nordyke and Obama, the twins were often pictured near Obama in their class yearbooks, their mother said.
The daughters now live on the Mainland, and neither returned repeated telephone messages seeking comment.
But one or both may return to Honolulu in June when their class celebrates its 30th reunion, Nordyke said.
FEC filings show Obama paid his personal attorney almost a million ($889,000. or close)the last time I looked. He used campaign funding which was almost gone by his november, december '08 filings.
Obama sued because of presidential action is paid by the people. Obama's refusal to show a document for some nefarious reason should not be paid by taxpayers or the DOJ used. DOJ is there for the people. Not to hide presidential felonies.
If Obama released his BC in court, forensics declared it authentic and it was traceable to Hawaii records,this issue would be dropped by the majority. It is his refusal that has created this fiasco.His I am better than you arrogance.
If the BC has two foreign born parents then the issue of eligibility would become front and center. The argument would be what is considered NBC. I would expect Ginsberg to say Obama is NBC because her grandson is.
If the BC says,Stanley Ann was employed by CPUSA,then it is a embarrassment for Obama.
If Obama had a late filed BC, there would be a amendment. Like,mother issued a letter informing about the birth and was accepted by the courts for late filing. That's a problem for obama because he said hewas born in a hospital where there would not be a late filing. Plus BC's were given to foreign born at the time in Hawaii.
If Obama never formally changed his name back from Soetoro after he came back from Jakarta,then he has a problem on legal documents, law license, filing in each state for POTUS run, etc.
I agree with the Chrysler lawsuit by the plaintiff. They have standing to ask if Obama was eligible to be POTUS. They have a right to know if he is eligible before going forward to fight the Unconstitutional way this was done by Obama and his radical admin. Was Obama eligible to make the decision to ruin their livelihood? If not then it will be the American people who pay them back for everything they lost.
Considering there was no rhyme or reason to which dealerships were shut down. Some say those shut down were partisan reasons only. And the fact with one phone call some in Obama's admin were able to stop the shutting down of a particular dealership of a buddy says this court case has a very good chance of winning.
I agree that Obama is probably hiding something (perhaps an illegitimate birth) but there is no doubt about his citizenship, that is unless you can show that his legal mother was not American born. If you can’t, case closed: he is a natural born American citizen.
Interesting response. Are you arguing that if Andy Jackson was born in 1790, the fact that both his parents were foreign born WOULD have been disqualified from becoming president on that basis? Are you arguing that Spiro Agnew was not a legal veep because his father was Greek? If so, you stand completely alone in making this argument in the entire sweep of American history.
Realistically, do you think that the framers had the foresight to, and would accept a British citizen (Indonesian?) to be the President (usurper) of the new United States of America???
Read U.S. Constitution Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, you’ll get the answer.
There is no proof Obama is a NBC. NONE! If there was obama would have sent a lapdog into court with the document. His copy would never make first base in court and he knows it.
You seem tired. Maybe a nap would help.
After that I believe I have seen McLame’s B.C. posted for everyone to see, but NOT Soetoro’s!!!
Actually, I'm a firm advocate of the nap. It's a great vehicle for clearing away pointless clutter in the mind. You should give it a try.
Should this happen BEFORE or AFTER your buddy Barry makes 20 million illegals brand new democRat voters?
NOOO, because it has been shown here a few times how easy it is to fake a COLB, that even you and I can do on our laptops!!!
Why shouldn't he?
Fake because I do not believe Obama is above the same law I have to adhere too. Really? Did you have to present your birth certificate when you ran for president?
I have shown it for much less than running for president. In fact the things I did show it for I can be a foreign born. POTUS cannot. YOU are actually posting that POTUS does not have to verify citizenship? Otherwise that makes no sense.
Because I do not want to pay for Obama's legal defense because he refuses to show his BC as we all have to do when it is basic and very simple to do. Can't help you there. Sue the President and the U.S. Attorney's office handles the defense. It's the way it's always been.
Actually no it hasn't and it should not be now. But when your buddy is Chief of DOJ...
Essaye said that as of the end of October Clinton's legal bills totaled $9 million.
And again, the Obama campaign prof erred a COLB it claimed to have obtained from Hawaii. The State of Hawaii does not dispute the accuracy of the information, and has in fact affirmed that information for anyone willing to listen.
So yeah, it is fake just because you say so, which does mean nothing.
GREAT move!!! Some cheap business cards
placed about would work, too ....
Social Security Death Index
about Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham
Name: Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham
Last Residence: 96826 Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii
Born: 26 Oct 1922
Died: 2 Nov 2008
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before
Father: Stanley Armour Dunham b: 23 MAR 1918 in WICHITA, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS, UNITED STATES
Mother: Madelyn Lee Payne b: 26 OCT 1922 in WICHITA, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS, UNITED STATES
Where’s the Birth Certificate? notes left in restrooms!!!!
Hahahahahahahaha. Love the idea!
I have an account with Net Detective and Ancestry.com - I just checked both and while her SS Death Index comes up, there is no record on either for a Stanley A. Dunham on her b-day listed on social security.
Things that make you go hmmmmmm
That is his Grandparents, his mother, Stanley A. Dunham was born in November 26, 1942 according to her SSDI Death Index
Try to find a birth certificate for her though, anywhere in the US.
I am not excoriating Obama for not demanding the courts do something they don't have to and won't. Why would I do that when Obama is anything but a honest person? Ihave much more on him to excoriate him about.
I am taking Obama to task for his refusal to show a simple document and get this over with. In the original Berg case he requested the courts verify Obama's BC. Bauers answer, dismiss the case. The courts cannot force Obama to step down but they can petition congress to verify it and answer eligibility questions real citizens of the United States have.
Do we have this last name for Soetoro?
Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo
I have. His mother was American therefore he is natural born.
I dunno. Name me ONE president in American history who was required to present these personal records. Certainly, the Constitution does not require such personal records. Heck, we didn't even have birth certificated back in 1789! Again, are you arguing that he was not born to an American mother? Otherwise, what is your point?