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Boom-Times in the Beltway (Federal Employees are making off like bandits during these hard times)
National Review ^ | 12/11/2009 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 12/11/2009 11:52:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Even as federal employees' salaries are growing robustly, the president's pay czar Kenneth Feinberg has imposed new limits on executive compensation at AIG, Citigroup, General Motors, and GMAC, all recipients of government bailouts. Salaries will be limited to $500,000 in cash, and bonuses will be tied to "real achievement of objective goals."

Chris Edwards at CATO—who has done quite a lot of independent analysis of federal pay—puts this story in context and adds some juicy details from his own data. Most remarkably, there are fully 383,000 federal workers earning six-figure salaries and 22,000 earning salaries of over $170,000. And these numbers don't even include the $41,000 in non-salary benefits the average federal employee receives each year.

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There may be 7.3 million Americans out of a job in this economy, but it’s happy days for federal employees. The number of civil servants making $100,000 or more has jumped over 46 percent since the start of the recession.

The most dramatic increase came in the Transportation Department, where the number of employees earning salaries of over $170,000 jumped from one to a whopping 1,690 in just a year and a half. The growth was triggered by rules that prevent top employees in a given department from making more than their bosses. In this case, when Congress raised the Federal Aviation Administrator's salary, it triggered raises for nearly 2,000 of his subordinates.

The Defense Department also saw a salary explosion when new merit-pay rules took effect—and there turned out to be a whole lot more merit around the Pentagon than Congress expected. The result was a five-fold increase in the number of defense officials earning $150,000 or more.

Across the board, the salary bonanza has pushed the average federal worker's pay to $71,206, compared with $40,331 in the private sector.

Overall, the recession has been a boon for the Beltway crowd. We related last week that the Washington metropolitan area received nearly 10 times as much stimulus money per capita as the national average, keeping the unemployment rate in the area at 6.2 percent, far below rates of other large cities—9.3 percent in New York; over 10 percent in Chicago, Atlanta and Los Angeles—and the national average of 10.2 percent.

Recovery Act funding alone has fed the creation of 407,000 government contract jobs—or two thirds of all jobs "created" under the Act—according to one independent analysis. And during a time when most businesses are downsizing, the federal government itself actually grew by 13,000 employees in the last year—the first increase since the 1970s.

And the trend continues. We previously indicated that last week's jobs report wasn't nearly so positive as it looked (because the stats were juked), but what little real job creation there was occurred almost entirely in the government and education sectors.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: agenda; beltway; bhoczars; debt; federal; federalized; federalspending; feinberg; union; unions; washingtondc
FEDERAL SALARY INCREASES VISUALIZED :

1 posted on 12/11/2009 11:52:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to mention the fact that your retirement plan, guaranteed to pay regularly with annual cost of living increases until the day you die, includes people with guns to go collect your monthly stipend from people who actually produce wealth.


2 posted on 12/11/2009 11:59:50 AM PST by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Liberty Ship
ain't it great? The number of "civil servants" making $100,000 or more has jumped over 46 percent since the start of the recession.

anything to grow gubermint.

3 posted on 12/11/2009 12:02:17 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


4 posted on 12/11/2009 12:13:45 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: SeekAndFind
Feudalism returns and the Landed Class re-emerges....

Remember, we exist only to support them

5 posted on 12/11/2009 12:14:19 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: Regulator

know your role and shut your hole...just keep payin your taxes, serf!

sincerely,
King Barry


6 posted on 12/11/2009 12:18:53 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Regulator

I remember when Clinton was president he hired 1,000 people in DC by a stroke of the pen. Entry level civil service workers, many were sent to work at Walter Reed. They had a cubical and sat around all day talking on the phone and playing on a computer. That was more than 10 years ago, by now they have been promoted because it is a right and are likely making much more that the average American.


7 posted on 12/11/2009 12:21:41 PM PST by Paratrooper
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To: Paratrooper
I remember when Clinton was president he hired 1,000 people in DC by a stroke of the pen.

I wonder if Monica Lewinsky would have been a full time Fed employee by now if she did not have that silly affair with Bubba....

Also, how difficult is it to get a Federal job as opposed to a private company job ?
8 posted on 12/11/2009 12:29:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Paratrooper
http://www.heritage.org/research/russiaandeurasia/bg879.cfm

February 6, 1992

Despite the defeat of the August 19 August 21 Communist coup in Moscow most of the officials on the local level are former Communist bureaucrats, who are hostile to free market reforms and have excellent connections with bureaucrats of similar background on the national level. They are there because it is impossible to change the entire staff of local and central bureaucracies in the few months that have passed since August.

Local government officials are opposed to free market reforms because they threaten their control over the local economy. Once real privatization occurs, no one would need bureaucrats to manage the economy, and local government power over the population would be much more limited, as it is in the West.

...or like the West used to be.

9 posted on 12/11/2009 12:33:32 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Boom-Times in the Beltway (Federal Employees are making off like bandits during these hard times)"

Let me be "Captain Obvious" for a moment here, but the conservative candidate who pledges to SHRINK GOVERNMENT and close down a lot of useless agencies, and re-align government salaries mose closely to the private sector will be the one to vote for.

A good house-cleaning is needed in Washington.

Let's see now, do we know a candidate who once took office and started right off cleaning out waste, corruption, and graft - beginning with their own party? Oh, yes, Sarah Palin did that in Alaska.

Hummmmmmm food for thought.
10 posted on 12/11/2009 12:49:27 PM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: FrankR

Let’s not forget many Freepers work for the government in some capacity. Don’t put all of them in one boat.

Salaries are all over the map. In some jobs, they’re excessive, but in others they’re quite low.


11 posted on 12/11/2009 2:13:26 PM PST by RockinRight (The sleeping giant has been awoken, and he's PISSED.)
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To: SeekAndFind
And, as they slave in the private, wealth-creating sector, our grandchildren's children will be paying the pensions of these folks their entire lives.

What the so-called "progressives" "regressives" never explain as they create this monster employer called "government," is that their "jobs" are wealth-absorption jobs; whereas, jobs in the productive, private sector are wealth-creation jobs.

That is why the private sector should not let politicians co-opt their wealth-creation role in the society by accepting tax dollars as so-called "incentives." Once they do, they become participants in the rob-Peter-to-pay-Paul scam which serves to shrink the economy and increase the coercive power and wealth of unscrupulous politicians and bureaucrats in government.

Is it not telling that Adam Smith was a "moral philosopher" whose publication of "An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations" coincided with America's Declaration of Independence and became the basis of the greatest explosion of personal liberty, opportunity, innovation, and goods and services ever known to man?

Far Left (those who call themselves "progressive") politicians are fond of studying "poverty." What a waste! If they were serious about relieving poverty, they would, like Smith, be studying "wealth creation" and "individual liberty."

Sadly, their objective is neither relieving poverty nor pursuing liberty. It is as old as the history of civilization: it is accumulation of coercive power in the hands of a political elite.

12 posted on 12/11/2009 2:53:42 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: RockinRight
Salaries are all over the map. In some jobs, they’re excessive, but in others they’re quite low.

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I think they all get the same benefits. Originally the wages were low because the benefits off-set the wages.

I just had a friend come back from the Beltway after a visit and could not believe the way folks were spending, spending, spending.

She lived and worked in DC during the 90’s and now lives in Florida. Even as a Lib she had to admit that DC is out of touch with the rest of the Country.

13 posted on 12/11/2009 2:55:34 PM PST by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: not2worry

Honestly I think the cost of living in DC drives it (and conversely the salaries drive cost of living) since benefits don’t pay the mortgage - the salaries increased.


14 posted on 12/11/2009 3:57:11 PM PST by RockinRight (The sleeping giant has been awoken, and he's PISSED.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If you want to know what a fed employee actually costs, look up their salary and add 15% for benefits. That's the standard figure for agency budgeting.
15 posted on 12/11/2009 4:37:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

This article is totally bogus. 70K in the Wash DC area and you’re barely cutting it.

I’d gladly trade my 100K job in DC with a 50-60K job in a less expensive, less congested, less polluted, less illegal immigrant area of the country any day of the week.

HOWEVER, this is where the jobs are.


16 posted on 12/11/2009 6:26:51 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Paratrooper

try living in the DC metro area on an ‘average’ American salary.

Guaranteed my taxes will go to paying your food stamps and subsidized housing allowance.

GUARANTEED.


17 posted on 12/11/2009 6:28:44 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: hinckley buzzard

Really, what’s the average salary of the Gov. contractor? Everyone seems to forget that a substantial part of the American work force in total are working on some kind of local, state, federal contract.

now add that to your calculations.

Again, this article is bogus.


18 posted on 12/11/2009 6:31:06 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: hinckley buzzard

Really, what’s the average salary of the Gov. contractor? Everyone seems to forget that a substantial part of the American work force in total are working on some kind of local, state, federal contract.

now add that to your calculations.

Again, this article is bogus.


19 posted on 12/11/2009 6:32:28 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: RockinRight
there are no low govt salaries......and add in the package they get, they're far above civilians....

face the facts.....SS might be a ponzi scheme and unethical and unsustainable but look at the govt workers.....

they'll be taking every penny we peasants make to pay them....

I won't do it...

maybe the mafia had it right all along....

we're fools to think we have anything to gain in this new America.....

obey laws?...pay taxes?...be a good citzen?...WHY?

20 posted on 12/11/2009 10:14:07 PM PST by cherry
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To: Hammerhead
your job and your $100,000 a year plus your 6 weeks vacation and every holiday known to man, and you get to keep much of your salary when you retire...

tell us again about how you would "gladly" live elsewhere?......

nonsense....you've got it made...

just don't be criticizing SS or Medicare or union workers at GM and other industries......the govt pay and pensions system is far more obscene and odorous....

21 posted on 12/11/2009 10:17:04 PM PST by cherry
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To: Hammerhead
HOWEVER, this is where the jobs are.

Not for long. Flyover country is getting close to lock and load time.

22 posted on 12/11/2009 10:33:50 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Only payoff for being a Democrat? They get the illusion that they are intellectually superior to you)
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To: SeekAndFind; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ..

If it weren’t for all this government compensation, suburban Maryland would be a Third World country.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


23 posted on 12/12/2009 10:25:16 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Don't eat your dog; eat obnoxious, liberal humans to save the planet!)
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To: cherry
While I'm no fan of largesse in government, there is some twisting of facts here when they say "average federal worker's pay...$71,206, compared with $40,331 in the private sector"

The private sector includes people working at Wal-Mart and McDonalds, etc. who make $8.10 an hour...these workers don't have a government analogue.

If we're going to launch a complaint about salaries, at least make sure we're truly comparing apples to apples.

24 posted on 12/12/2009 8:12:07 PM PST by RockinRight (The sleeping giant has been awoken, and he's PISSED.)
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To: SeekAndFind

humm as a federal employee my salary is approx $10,000 less then last year...where did I go wrong....


25 posted on 12/12/2009 8:15:07 PM PST by Gone_Postal ("Men who say it cannot be done, should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: Gone_Postal

These quotes were taken from actual Federal (US) employee performance evaluations...

“Since my last report, this employee has reached rock bottom and has started to dig.”

“His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity”

“I would not allow this employee to breed”

“This employee is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definite won’t be”

“Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap”

“When she opens her mouth, it seems that it is only to change feet”

“He would be out of his depth in a parking lot puddle”

“This young lady has delusions of adequacy”

“He sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them”

“This employee is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot”

“This employee should go far, and the sooner the better”

“Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic thing to hold it all together”

“A gross ignoramus - 144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus”

“He certainly takes a long time to make his pointless”

“He doesn’t have ulcers, but he’s a carrier”

“I would like to go hunting with him sometime”

“He’s been working with glue too much”

“He would argue with a signpost”

“He has knack for making strangers immediately”

“He brings a lot of joy whenever he leaves the room”

“When his IQ reaches 50, he should sell”

“If you see 2 people talking and one looks bored, he’s the other one”

“A photographic memory but with the cap over the lens”

“A prime candidate for natural deselection”

“Donated his brain to science before he was done using it”

“Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn’t coming”

“Has 2 brains, one is lost, the other is out looking for it”

“If he were any more stupid, he’d have to be watered twice a week”

“If you give him a penny for his thoughts, you’d get change”

“If you stand close enough to him, you can hear the ocean”

“It’s hard to believe that he beat out 1,000 other sperm”

“One neuron short of a synapse”

“Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, he only gargled”

“Takes him 12 hours to watch 60 Minutes”

“The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead”


26 posted on 12/12/2009 8:50:40 PM PST by Gone_Postal ("Men who say it cannot be done, should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: Hammerhead
This article is totally bogus.

Indeed. Comparing two groups without selecting so that apples (technical and legal jobs in government) are compared to apples (engineers and lawyers in private business) and not to oranges (e.g. janitors and stoop-labor harvesters) is simply lying with statistics.

27 posted on 12/17/2009 10:51:12 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: RockinRight
GMTA.

In addition to this bit of statistical chicanery, there are several others. Precisely because the government back-loads its compensation by paying bigger pensions later so that it can get away with paying smaller salaries now, civil servants tend to stay in those jobs longer than the private-market average, thus artificially skewing the comparison by falsely equating relatively senior employees among the former with relatively junior ones among the latter.

Really, there are enough legitimate grounds for complaint about government. Introducing specious ones such as this is to engage in boy-who-cried-wolf undercutting of one's own position.

28 posted on 12/17/2009 10:54:34 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: Hammerhead
I’d gladly trade my 100K job in DC with a 50-60K job in a less expensive, less congested, less polluted, less illegal immigrant area of the country any day of the week.

I just signed on with the FDIC in Dallas (2 year contract). Beats the heck out of $400 a week for unemployment. Let's face it: the feds are the only game in town when it comes to hiring.

Private companies that are hiring are really putting the screws on pay. I just received an offering for a senior tax position, starting at $52K, with minimal benefits.

Companies are not hiring anyone over 45, unless you want to work for rock bottom. Thanks, but I'll suck wind for two years, with the chance for decent promotions during that time, with full benefits to include 10 paid holidays and 3-4 weeks paid vacation every year.

Oh yeah...when there is work beyond 40 hours, I'll be paid time-and-a-half.

Sorry for sounding so jaded, but the past six years have been a beyotch in the private sector, and I just don't see improvement in that regard as long as Obama and the Dems are running things.

29 posted on 12/17/2009 11:08:14 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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