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Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.
Posted on 12/11/2009 2:10:09 PM PST by arealconservativeforachange
Michigan's state Senate and House passed a smoking ban that will make indoor smoking illegal, save for gambling areas, cigar bars and cigar shops. The measure, HB 4377, passed by a vote of 24 to 13 in the Senate and was overwhelmingly approved by the House in a vote of 75 to 30.
The legislation will become law when Gov. Jennifer Granholm signs it; she has come out in favor of such legislation, according to press reports from Michigan. The law will go into effect May 1.
Exemptions to the legislation include cigar bars, tobacco stores and casinos. A smoking ban had been in the works for years. "The bill was a product of compromise and support from several different major entities in the state, including the casino and health lobby, and the International Premium Cigar and Pipe Retailers association and the Cigar Association of America," said Chris McCalla, legislative director of the IPCPR. "The bill also had the support of most IPCPR retailers in the state. Without this compromise bill, we would have most likely faced a difficult, costly, and likely loss in fighting a no-exemptions smoking ban bill that would have gone to a ballot vote in 2010."
At least you kept your cigar bars.
Nanny State out of control!
I guess the real question is where outside of the Middle East is public smoking still allowed?
...meanwhile, Michigan is sliding deeper in to recession, there is corruption at every level, businesses are fleeing in droves - good to know that the Michigan Legislature has their priorities in order. :D
Uh, guess who’s exempted from the ban? Casinos.
Guess who benefits from casino profits? Gubbermint. How ‘bout that?
I don’t smoke, and I don’t like to be around a lot of people who are smoking.
But, dammit, quit taking away our liberty!
OK, they can make smoking essentially illegal at their call, and, for questionable reasons, but so it goes.
Now, how about making taxes on tobacco illegal?
More freedoms taken away. Thank you Granholm and company.
The dirty azzwipes now have it illegal to smoke in your own home in some areas.
This dam government has to be stopped-NOW!
After all, she's been blowing smoke up Michigan's ___ for years!
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Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.
1. How and why did a liberal deep blue state like MI take so long to pass a smoker ban? They obviously believe that coercing people to conform to the elitist State is a legitimate government function.
2. How long will this brilliant piece of legislation take to lower the unemployment rate? This solves everything.
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We the People Sheeple of the United States Nanny State, in Order to form a more perfect Union Socialist Utopia, establish Justice Socially engineer a country of non smoking, physically fit, seat belt and helmet wearing teetotalers, ensure domestic Tranquility Smoking bans in bars, limits on unhealthy food and social drinking, provide for the common defense Universal Healthcare, promote the general Welfare health of the population whether they like it or not, in order to save above mentioned Universal Healthcare entitlement program from bankruptcy, and secure the Blessings of Liberty Dependency to ourselves progressive liberals and our Posterity Hitler Youth who we brainwash through public school education, do ordain decree and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Nanny State of Liberals.
Well, it appears that these democraps have found another way to make establishments lose business, ie bars!
Check out how this article was written:
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/12/michigan_legislature_passes_sm.html
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The ban takes effect in May and applies to all bars, restaurants and workplaces, except for cigar bars, tobacco specialty stores, home offices, motor vehicles and three Detroit casinos.
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Isn’t it great?!
The Government didn’t pass a ban in HOME OFFICES and PRIVATE motor vehicles! - Aren’t they swell/sarc
That article was written on the 10th - those two potential ‘private domain’ ban areas have been scrubbed by the press in further articles.(don’t let the cat out of the bag on their full intentions)
They are really looking out for the best interest of all Americans/ huge sarc.
Just wait until the government starts regulating water and CO2......never mind.......I wonder what’s on TV tonight?
This dam government has to be stopped-NOW!
Agreed! Hey, did you hear on Beck tonight that the fed have put together legislation that will enable them to own all the inland waterways, lakes, streams, swamps, wetlands, & rivers?
You can say it again... this government has to be stopped!
So where does this leave private property owners like home owners? I just don’t understand why government would impose a smoking ban and then expect to get even more tax money from the use of tobacco. Maybe I’m just to dense to “get it.”
If the elitist DemocRats in government succeed in taking over healthcare, they’ll be taxing and then outlawing anything and everything that ‘they consider’ to be unhealthy....even while they continue to indulge in whatever their black hearts please. Wait till they ban alcohol sales. They’ve already demonized trans-fats and made the fast-food industry lick their jackboots. It will never end. Unless we end it.
With the Republic crumbling around their ears, it is amazing what these local politicians focus upon.
So...did Grantheft sell Michigan for 30 pieces of silver and all the water the state holds?
You have to give the paid activists credit for single minded determination if nothing else. They are focused.
People were still being grieved in NO when they passed a State smoker ban which exempted bars. Thank God, had a great time there a couple of years ago when I still smoked.
A couple of years after 9/11 Bloomberg banned smoking in bars and restaurants which solved all their problems.
(sarcasm) You underestimate the brilliance of these geniuses (/sarcasm)
And how do they plan to enforce the “Home office” rule lol
I work from home.. we have a business that runs out of our home.. I will OPENLY flaunt my smoking in my home office, I dare them to come to my home and tell me what I can do in my own home.
Thankfully I live in NV and they have not tried this garbage yet.. but I DARE them to try and enforce it.
The fed can not have our Great Lakes....period!
What a bunch of schmucks!
I think they'll keep tobacco, liquor, greasy, fast food etc. legal and just refuse to give those people who indulge any health care. That way they can still collect the tax money on those products and SAVE money by only providing health care to people who "deserve" it.
And I am only being half-way sarcastic about that. I truly am that cynical.
Since they mentioned motor vehicles, that means they’re next.
It’s called totalitarianism.
You won’t be able to sell your house if its been smoked in.
Ok, here is the trick.. one has to PROVE I smoked in it.. I know the normal line here is “You can always tell” but a coat of paint and a few other tricks, no one is the wiser. Most people have no idea I smoke at home.. then again I am a neat freak, nothing gets dirty here.
That or “The previous owner smoked in it”
Besides, selling my house has nothing to do with smoking in my OWN home office.
Drunk with power, they are unaware that they rule a dead state.
Michigan was
Sure is does.....Someone somewhere will figure out a way to ban smoking in homes, they are already doing it in apartments and condos. Smokers are not allowed to foster children in the UK in many areas.
With the advent of the dreaded [3rd hand smoke] they will figure out a way to gain taxation/fees in order for anyone to sell their house who may have smoked in it.
Some 'level of exposure' will be found and a consensus formed, the molecules will need to be excised for a fee and a certification given.(Think asbestos and lead;treated and tented homes before re-sale for smoke extraction). You may not sell your house otherwise.
Private business owners have bowed to the government, why would us private home owners think we have more rights then them?
We are all equal - the playing fields will be leveled. :(
Did the MI legislature really feel it necessary to pass more legislation to demonstrate why it finds itself in the economic dumpster?
The same people who claim that “the government would never ration health care” are the same folks that have pushing the incremental move of the nanny state in the name of fighting that evil tobacco.
The saddest thing is that a few FReepers will celebrate their victory.
The smoke could drift to a local school, and children could be affected. You must be controlled so we can remain safe.
I smoke...on average, a pack a week. So, f*ck me?
Uh.....F-you? That would be dependent on yourself, not me. I have no knowledge in regards to that f-stuff.
My only beef is the cost...How could you possibly afford a pack a week? I'd be living on an off-ramp with that expense.
“How could you possibly afford a pack a week? I’d be living on an off-ramp with that expense.”
It’s easier to go from two packs a week to just one than it would be to go from two packs a day down to one pack a day.
Cost reduction being the main case for the former with health issues and cost being the main cases for the latter. If you’re smoking two packs a day, the issue becomes the overall monetary cost plus the inevitable health risks.
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