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12/11/2009 | Jim Robinson

[Reagan Man]

"I believe that faith and religion play a critical role in the political life of our nation – and always has – and that the church – and by that I mean all churches, all denominations – has had a strong influence in the state. And this has worked to our benefit as a nation.

Those who created our country – the Founding Fathers and Mothers – understood that there is a divine order which transcends the human order. They saw the state, in fact, as a form of moral order and felt that the bedrock of moral order is religion ... Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."

~~~ President Ronald Reagan: Ecumenical prayer Breakfast. Dallas Texas, August 1984

[ansel12]

It is easy to find and show the Christian churches views on most things like that, but when it comes to finding simple, straight forward answers from Mormonism, it gets very complex and difficult, the whole “milk before meat” thing.

[Bodleian_Girl]

It would be fair to say that I don’t know every much about what Mormons believe!

[RedMDer]

Amen to that. I guess my new mobster name is “The Fringe”.

[Behemoth the Cat]

"One question that I have, why is the issue of evolution so PERSONAL to people?

So here is my PERSONAL answer: (1) I am a conservative (a conservative libertarian breed). I am also a scientist, working in the field of biomedical research. The scientific community is MOSTLY Leftist. In natural sciences this is not as bad as in humanities, but still a conservative PhD is a rare phenomenon. The life of a scientist who also happens to be a conservative is hard enough even without being associated with pseudoscience. (2) As a Christian I also believe that the YEC, in addition to being blasphemous, hurts Christianity in practical terms. Just as the analogous beliefs (geocentrism) hurt the Catholic Church several hundred years ago. If parts of the creed can be undermined (and 'creation science' falls apart easily), then how credible is the rest?

[WVKayaker]

Here is a site that explains it, from an EX-Mormon POV. The Mormons basically believe they will become gods, themselves. The wives, unfortunately, only get to have more babies!

They also must wear funny underwear (supposedly even in the marital bed???).

[GolfingRam]

I’m in the same boat as you, although I’m not a scientist (I do have a doctorate, however). I did take 10 months off work to study the Bible with a group closely associated with the Assembly of God, and I was about the only non-YEC’er (as well as being the only one who didn’t speak in tongues). You can guess why they said I didn’t speak in tongues. However, I studied the Bible so thoroughly that everyone came to me with their Biblical questions. Indeed, I spent so much time in the Word that a counselor suggested that I should spend less time reading the Bible and more time “praising” God in during services (rather than prayer). Quite surprising. Anyway, I digress and I’m posting only to show my agreement with your comments.

[christianhomeschoolmommaof3]

I did not call you a Darwinist, I called you an evolutionist. I also said implicitly that believing in evolution does not mean that you can not be a Christian or a conservative. No one else said that either.

Fields of science do work together agreed. However, it isn’t evidence from these fields that supports evolution; it is the interpretation of the evidence that is interpreted in a specific way to support evolution. Creationists do this as well. Every person’s worldview will color the evidence they see.

[1000 silverlings]

Good post. As I recall the Patrick Henry guy started all of the anti-Christian threads and it was obvious that they were started for sport. He prefaced them with comments clearly meant for his swarm to appear and begin the bashing. they particularly liked new meat, and I know, cuz I was some.

I got here just before they all left and started Darwin Central, in order to discuss "real science". They keep coming back here, obviously to attack believers since they are free to discuss "real science" on their own site. They probably bore each other to death

[Behemoth the Cat]

"Too bad that that same technology brought us DNA identification, which punched holes in Darwins theories that have yet to be filled. "

What kind of hole?

[1000 silverlings]

Darwinism is faith based

yes, and comes complete with it's very own creation myths, which no one is allowed to question

[christianhomeschoolmommaof3]

Okay I understand that because I feel as well that a belief in evolution hurts the church and especially the teaching of sin and death and a need for a Saviour.

The question was really why do you take MY beliefs on the subject so personally?

Again I understand what evolution teaches. I find it lacking convincing evidence as do many people both Christian and non, both scientists and laymen.

You try to discredit anyone who questions evolution as anti/pseudo science. Alot of people believe evolution is anti/pseudo science. I have not tried to discredit you as anti science because I think your belief is wrong. I think your belief is wrong in this one area. There is a difference in operational science and historical science. Maybe you won’t stop your personal attacks until you realize this. Maybe until you realize that we are smart, well read even scientific people who have studied evolution and come away with a different view than yours.

You sir are intolerant of any view on this than yours. And THAT is the problem.

[mojitojoe]

You know you’re over the target when you’re taking flack. Let them eat cake.

[demshateGod]

Thanks for pinging me.

[Behemoth the Cat]

"The question was really why do you take MY beliefs on the subject so personally?" I do not take your BELIEFS personally. Feel free to believe in whatever you wish. The problem starts when you guys see the need to support your beliefs with hand-crafted 'science' (which defies observable reality and common sense) and advertise this publicly. Then it becomes personal, because as a conservative I become associated with this pseudoscience.

[skr]

perception, not perceptioin, of course

[RaceBannon]

I aint wearin no dress, man!

What’s that old adage?

I dont drink, swear, or dancin do
Nor do I hang with those that do

Sumthin like that. )

[Jim Robinson]

I’m Christian but we have many Jewish FReepers as well as many of other faiths and many non-believers as well. I’ll think better of Muslims when they completely denounce terrorism and Jihad as a solution to their problems and go after the Islamic murderers themselves.

Other than that, all I’m saying is that I truly believe that America was founded on the Truth that all men are created equal by their Creator and endowed with certain unalienable INDIVIDUAL rights, including the rights to Life, Liberty, pursuit of happiness, property, freedom, self-defense, self-government, etc, etc, etc, and that it is our right and duty to defend these rights from government intrusion. I think this sets our free republic apart from every other country ever established and that it is at the very core of conservatism, ie, to secure, defend, preserve and protect the God-given Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

And I’m simply stating that God will not be run off the pages of FR by government, liberals, RINOs, atheists, evolutionists, Darwinists, scientists, or the ACLU! FR is private property and the godless liberal enemies of Liberty be damned.

God is here to stay.

That is all.

[NicknamedBob]

As Randall Terry would say, "He's On Fire for Jesus now!"

If reunited with his beloved daughter Annie, he probably is.

[bray]

Some of us just don’t have enough faith to believe in Evolution or Global Warming.

Pray for America and Gov Palin