Skip to comments.Birth Certificate Submitted by Obama's Grandmother
Posted on 12/12/2009 12:28:23 AM PST by BorderRaven
"BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before the local registrar of the district. It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parents signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate. (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parents claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a drivers license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a drivers license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the 60s. Even if they had been, there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii."
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I agree, but won’t rule anything out.
Unless the Hawaiian DoH added the law cite at a later date.
The offset type is a clue.
"1. Birthplace: Kenya; Registered Honolulu HRS 338-17.8 per Grandmother
This gives credibility that the added cited law "HRS 338-17.8" to the purported Obama BC as following DoH practicing office form.
I’m in favour of KISS - keep it short and simple.
Obama Sr is not the father.
And who-ever it was that filled in that application to register a birth (regardless of where that birth took place) couldn’t spell MADELYN OR THE NAME OF THE STREET.
Now who might that have been?
Someone who didn’t know Madelyn well or at all, and someone who never lived in the street on the application.
This not the first time this particular BC has been discussed. Also another teeny weeny problem is there was NO mother or father's name on the BC the impostor found that had been done by his grandmother. This is a fake; the attorney Mario Apuzzo proved almost immediately it was a fake.
I’ll say probably fake. Noway to know for sure unless the the issuing authority in Hawaii says one way or another.
Which brings up another subject. Hawaii has set up a system where someone with interests cannot authenticate the veracity of their COLBs when someone presents it to a employer or other significant matter. Hawaii appears to be a identity thief’s paradise.
Obama was born about 18 hours before the Nordyke twins where he should have a lower birth certificate file number than the twins but he does not. It could be something significant.
Now there are three mistakes:
The ‘applicant’ couldn’t spell MADELYN.
The ‘applicant’ couldn’t spell the name of the street.
The ‘applicant’ signs Ericson for Erickson:
Name: Martin Erickson
Phone Number: 525-0547
Address: 614 Kaha St, Kailua, Hawaii 96734-1201 (1992)
[1509 Francis, Albany, California 94706-1001 (1992)]
[1015 Aoloa Pl #456, Kailua, Hawaii 96734]
No forger would be THAT stupid.
Fractal Trader; LucyT; Beckwith
just read through all the comments again, cant see where anyone noted the source of the document
The Blaine Document
October 19, 2009 by John Charlton
WILLIAM BLAINE RELEASES PURPORTED OBAMA CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH
by John Charlton
(Oct. 20, 2009) At 10:22 PM Last evening someone purporting to be William Blaine issued the following email:
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:15:27 -0400
Subject: Obama Birth Proof
My client has asked me to share this with you and asks that you share it with as many patriots as possible so that it cannot be scrubbed from existance.
I trust you will know what to do with this.
Attached to this email was the following Certificate of Live Birth of Barack Hussein Obama, which contains no file number:
Maybe someone should just send an e-mail to Erickson’s brother Jack and ask him if he knows, whether they knew each other or not.
It sure is interesting that both Stanley and Carolly are the same age, went to the University of Washington together at the same time, both lived in Hawaii and both were interested in jazz.
It because it is a fake...
...and when O Sr received his instructions to register the birth, the details were read to him by telephone, he wrote down the names and address phonetically, and that's how you get Ericson for Erickson, Madlyn for Madelyn, and Kalanlanaole for the street...
Only a foreigner (not a forger)would have THAT problem.
This is confusing. Was he born Barak Hussein Obama, changed his name to Barry Soetoro then changed his name back to Barak H Obama?
I don’t hire anybody in my company if I can’t validate the information on their application.
And we DO check everything.