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Israel Would Risk 'Earthquake' With Misuse Of Turkish Airspace, PM Warns
Today's Zaman ^ | December 11, 2009

Posted on 12/12/2009 5:10:11 AM PST by Strategy

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has stated that Turkey would by no means let Israel misuse Turkish airspace to carry out intelligence and surveillance missions of a neighboring country, in strongly worded remarks this week.

If Israel were to misuse Turkish airspace to conduct reconnaissance operations on Iran, Ankara's reaction would resemble an "earthquake," Erdogan recently said in an interview when asked about claims that Israel had used Turkey's airspace for purposes of espionage.

"[Israel] will receive a response equal to that of an earthquake," Erdogan was quoted as saying by the English-language Jerusalem Post. Urging Israel's leaders to refrain from "using the relationship they have with [Turkey] as a card to wage aggression on a third party," he underlined that Ankara would not be a neutral party and stand aside with its arms folded.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: bho44; christianright; iran; islam; israel; military; obama; turkey

1 posted on 12/12/2009 5:10:11 AM PST by Strategy
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To: Strategy

Solution?
Simple.

Do not fly over Turkey.
Fly over the smoking glass crater where Turkey used to be.


2 posted on 12/12/2009 5:13:48 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

Since Turkey is a member of NATO, that would involve a war with all of the other NATO members including The United States.


3 posted on 12/12/2009 5:20:46 AM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: reg45
Since Turkey is a member of NATO, that would involve a war with all of the other NATO members including The United States.

Yeah, I know... wishful thinking... but it felt good to write that.

Turkey should have gotten the boot from NATO when they refused to let the US use their airspace some years ago.

They were allowed to get away with that.

4 posted on 12/12/2009 5:26:56 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Strategy

This is important. If Israel is going to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities one possible route to Iran is over Syria and along the border between Iraq and Turkey. Not unlikely IMHO.


5 posted on 12/12/2009 5:30:23 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Bon mots

How far up does a country’s airspace extend? Israel should tell them it’s God’s airspace, not theirs.


6 posted on 12/12/2009 5:31:07 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Strategy
“[Israel] will receive a response equal to that of an earthquake,” Erdogan was quoted as saying by the English-language Jerusalem Post. Urging Israel's leaders to refrain from “using the relationship they have with [Turkey] as a card to wage aggression on a third party,” he underlined that Ankara would not be a neutral party and stand aside with its arms folded.”

Just posturing. I doubt Turkey would really defend this Iranian administration.

7 posted on 12/12/2009 5:34:40 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: Strategy

But...butt...Turkey halped us SO MUCH when it let us invade Iraq from the North and the 3rd Herd came sweeping down to Baghdad and........

Oops, never happened, did it?
Gone all Muzzie, haven’t they? Saudi $$$ and all that.
Bye bye Turkeyland.


8 posted on 12/12/2009 5:34:45 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: Strategy

I think the world is tip toeing a little to close to the edge of the abyss! IMO


9 posted on 12/12/2009 5:39:05 AM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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To: Strategy

Turkey is living up to its name. And their Earthquake response, I don’t think so, Israel could turn their country into bottom-feeders in about 20 minutes or so.


10 posted on 12/12/2009 6:20:19 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Strategy

For public consumption.

When the Israelis hit the Iraqi reactor, they had the wink and the nod from Saudi Arabia and Jordan.....and public comments like Erdogan’s.


11 posted on 12/12/2009 6:52:38 AM PST by cookcounty (“HOAX and CHEnge” ......Obama's beret comes into clear view.)
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To: cookcounty

With Israel it seems to be expect the unexpected. In this case who knows what they are planning.


12 posted on 12/12/2009 6:58:14 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: Bon mots

You think Israel should kill 76 million people to facilitate their combat missions?

Thankfully the Israelis are not the monsters you are!


13 posted on 12/12/2009 7:14:55 AM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Strategy

The Ottomans fought Persia tooth and nail for 600 years.

The current Islamist government has surrendered to them without a chirp.


14 posted on 12/12/2009 7:23:15 AM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Strategy

Turkey has really gone over to the dark side.


15 posted on 12/12/2009 8:32:37 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Russ

Uh, yeah. That’ll work with us when China decides to fly over us. Just tell em “Its God’s airspace!” LOL


16 posted on 12/12/2009 11:43:52 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: 1776 Reborn

Yes, I cannot imagine that the Turks are eager/happy to see the Iranians with a nuclear bomb.


17 posted on 12/12/2009 12:10:00 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: reg45

NATO is about defending against Russia.


18 posted on 12/12/2009 2:52:50 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Flintlock

That was the 4th ID that was not allowed transit through Turkey.

I was stunned at the time, that the Admin would even seriously consider it. Either they badly miscalculated , or having a heavy (infantry, armor, artillery) Division floating around in the Med, on the ready, might just help keep honest 'Arabs', honest?

With this latter, I do think I'm be too charitable.

It more appears that the Bush Admin & the Pentagon screwed the pooch when they first thought they could, would be allowed to roll a heavy thru Turkey on the way to make war against an "Islamic" nation.

WTF were they smoking?

Oh, I remember now, tangling with the armchair generals around here, them telling me 'all about' how Turkey owed us, wanted to be part of the EU, and gol' dang it(!) "don't you KNOW ABOUT INCIRLIK?!?"

19 posted on 12/12/2009 3:54:56 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: Strategy

Turkey used to ba an ally of the West until the islamists took control of Turkish government. Now Turkey supports Syria and Iran.


20 posted on 12/12/2009 5:58:37 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 1776 Reborn

“Just posturing. I doubt Turkey would really defend this Iranian administration.”

Wanna bet? Turkey today is controlled by islamists, and it is not the Western ally it was 40 years ago.


21 posted on 12/12/2009 6:00:52 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

Final bets have been placed already.


22 posted on 12/13/2009 3:16:27 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: 1776 Reborn

The only way Turkey does NOT support Iran vis-a-vis the West is if the Turkish military stages a coup and sidelines Turkey’s islamist government. The islamist movement in Turkey is huge, and it openly challenges the westernization that Kemal Ataturk initiated some 80 years ago. The only thing that is keeping Turkey from going full bore with the islamist mindset is its military.


23 posted on 12/13/2009 6:40:06 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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24 posted on 12/13/2009 7:00:11 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: InterceptPoint

I think the most direct route would be to overfly Jordan and Iraq, instead of flying out over the Med, and then through Turkey.

I don’t think Jordan really has any sort of ability to stop Israel from conducting an overflight, so the most pertinent question would be whether our Air Force would try to stop any Israeli jets from flying over Iraq.


25 posted on 12/13/2009 12:35:58 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
...so the most pertinent question would be whether our Air Force would try to stop any Israeli jets from flying over Iraq.

That's the rub. I don't think the U.S. would allow it. Not with Obama commanding the military. OTOH, Syria is a piece of cake for the Israelis. So they can get close but have to fly over either Iraq or Turkey. I would take Turkey.

The other option is Saudi Arabia. Would they? Rumors have it that they would. The long route around the Arabian peninsula seems unworkable to me but who knows.

26 posted on 12/13/2009 2:14:22 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Russ
..."How far up does a country’s airspace extend?"...

It extends UP as far as the Nation is able to protect it.

Long time, pal .............. FRregards

27 posted on 12/14/2009 6:53:20 AM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo! You should already have the guns .................. FRegards)
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