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"EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed" I just saw the movie. This may be a re-post.
http://www.expelledthemovie.com/ ^ | Ben Stein

Posted on 12/12/2009 7:26:56 AM PST by PatriotCJC

Thank you Ben Stein!!! This movie is a MUST SEE!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: benstein; darwinism; evolution; expelled; hollywood; intelligentdesign; moviereview; science
WOW. What a fascinating movie. Very thought provoking. I could have replaced the term "Evolution" with "Global Warming" and the same philosophy would apply.
1 posted on 12/12/2009 7:26:56 AM PST by PatriotCJC
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To: PatriotCJC

Where did you see it?


2 posted on 12/12/2009 7:31:03 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

One of the “ShowTime” channels


3 posted on 12/12/2009 7:31:46 AM PST by PatriotCJC (Keep your powder dry!)
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To: PatriotCJC

Thanks...I’m going to check out Amazon and see if I can buy the DVD.


4 posted on 12/12/2009 7:32:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: PatriotCJC

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303383,00.html


5 posted on 12/12/2009 7:39:15 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas, FReepers!!!)
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To: PatriotCJC

I agree with your post!!!

I watched it last night. IT WAS VERY GOOD!!!


6 posted on 12/12/2009 7:44:15 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

So? If you expect to agree with other human beings 100% of the time, you are going to be deeply disappointed for the rest of your life.


7 posted on 12/12/2009 7:52:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Every other week, a seller on eBay sells Expelled. Jayandmarie is the seller, I picked mine up for $1.51 + $3 s+h (was actually less, as I bought a bunch of cds and dvds at the same time.) They’ll probably start up again on Monday, as they weren’t selling them this week. All their auctions start at a penny, think the highest point I saw Expelled was $3.50, and I got my order a couple days after I paid for it.

Also picked up a few of Zero’s inauguration cds to give to friends who voted for him. I’m sure they’ll be excited to get a bit of hope and change this Christmas.


8 posted on 12/12/2009 7:58:34 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: PatriotCJC

Ben Stein is very bright. I don’t agree with him all the time. I first saw him on Ben Stein’s money. And a liberal lady made a crack about Racist Republicans. Ben gave her an education right on the show. It was really funny. He just quoted so many facts the ladies head was spinning.


9 posted on 12/12/2009 7:58:59 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: PatriotCJC

Yes indeed.

The fraud that is the “global warming scare” is VERY akin to the fraud that is “the theory of evolution” which is, of course, taught to hundreds of millions as “fact”, not “theory.”

Am very glad that Ben Stein’s documentary is now available on TV to those who have the extra cable channels at least.

I saw it when it came out = in the movie theater.

Awesome job. Thank you, Ben Stein.


10 posted on 12/12/2009 7:59:16 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obamacare + Obama's EPA + Demobama Dectruction of economy = many will die unnecessarily)
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To: 70th Division

Libs don’t want a straight on debate (example: Gore on warming). They just want to shout the loudest.


11 posted on 12/12/2009 8:00:11 AM PST by votemout
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To: PatriotCJC

BTW, netflix rents this movie.


12 posted on 12/12/2009 8:06:07 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; PatriotCJC
Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (2008) from Amazon...
[still in stock]

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (2008) from their own website...
[sold out right now]

If you want to see some comments about it at this P2P site (link below), they've got a few upset people... LOL...

At PirateBay BitTorrent site (see their comments and can download if you want...)

13 posted on 12/12/2009 8:28:45 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: catnipman
You were saying ...

BTW, netflix rents this movie.

NetFlix is great for seeing all sorts of DVDs like this, if you want -- and don't want to buy it. I would recommend them. And if you do want to save any, you can do it on your computer.

I got one low-quality copy from a BitTorrent site and it's good for showing and giving people an idea of what it's about. They can buy one if they want it...

14 posted on 12/12/2009 8:30:58 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
You were saying ...

Am very glad that Ben Stein’s documentary is now available on TV to those who have the extra cable channels at least.

Anyone was able to buy the DVD for quite a long time now, and also rent it (like one that was mentioned here, NetFlix...), and also download it, too...

I also remember when it first came out at the movies and I went to see it there. I've seen it several more times, over again, from my download on my computer too, and also to show other people when I get a chance.

15 posted on 12/12/2009 8:33:27 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: kingu

Great info...Thank You!!


16 posted on 12/12/2009 8:36:42 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: DJ MacWoW; PatriotCJC; ButThreeLeftsDo
Yeah.... :-)

I've always found that everyone is "really stupid" somewhere... and that includes everyone... LOL...

[I won't be telling you where that is with me... :-) ...]

17 posted on 12/12/2009 8:37:11 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for that info.

I hope this documentary is circulated and viewed in exponentially increasing numbers.

It appears that may be happening.

Glad to see it.


18 posted on 12/12/2009 8:38:08 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obamacare + Obama's EPA + Demobama Dectruction of economy = many will die unnecessarily)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks S.T.


19 posted on 12/12/2009 8:38:39 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: Star Traveler

I’m confessing nothin’! :-)


20 posted on 12/12/2009 8:51:32 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Absolutely and amazing movie when you consider the scams of today....shows Hitler and Stalin taking the same path as Global Warming scammers, a Marxist President, and a culpable Dem run congress.

A must see!


21 posted on 12/12/2009 8:53:31 AM PST by mike48
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To: All

About the Movie (Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed)

The Issue:

The freedom to legitimately challenge “Big Science’s” orthodoxy…without persecution.

The debate over evolution is confusing and to some, bewildering: “Wasn’t this all settled years ago?” The answer to that question is equally troubling: “Yes…and no.”

The truth is that a staggering amount of new scientific evidence has emerged since Darwin’s 150-year-old theory of life’s origins. Darwin had no concept of DNA, microbiology, The Big Bang, Einstein’s Theory of Relativity or of the human genome.

Each of these discoveries has, in one way or another, led a growing number of scientists to reconsider the simple view espoused by Darwin that life is a random, purposeless, chance occurrence. The universe, and life itself – is turning out to be far more complex and mysterious – than Darwin could possibly have imagined.

Darwin’s theory isn’t a single idea. Instead, it is made up of several related ideas, each supported by specific arguments. Of the three, only Evolution #1 can be said to be scientifically “settled.”

When you see the word “evolution.” You should ask yourself, “Which of the three definitions is being used?” Because arguments and evidence supporting #1 do not support #2 or #3!

What Is Intelligent Design?

The theory of intelligent design is simply an effort to empirically detect whether the “apparent design” in nature acknowledged by virtually all biologists is genuine design (the product of an intelligent cause) or is simply the product of an undirected process such as natural selection acting on random variations.

“Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” rejects the notion that “the case is closed,” and exposes the widespread persecution of scientists and educators who are pursuing legitimate, opposing scientific views to the reigning orthodoxy.

The Controversy

The American public’s awareness and beliefs vis-à-vis our government’s expanding role in defining the curriculum in America’s schools, universities and institutions of science.

Neo-Darwinian theory contends that life is the result of a random, purposeless process.

Neo – Darwinian theory is taught in schools as if it is the only plausible scientific explanation of how life originated and developed. Yet Intelligent Design theory has recently emerged to challenge neo-Darwinian theory.

Both are scientific theories, and the debate is therefore legitimate. Why is the debate being suppressed?

At stake are two very consequential views of existence: Is life purposeful, and intelligently designed? Or is it random and purposeless?

Question #1:

Knowing this - should our government be engaged in official, de facto promotion of the exclusively secular, materialist worldview inherent in neo-Darwinian theory in our nation’s public schools, universities and research institutions? Why?

Question #2:

There is growing support among scientists that there is evidence of intelligent design operating in nature. Yet these scientists, researchers and educators are being routinely persecuted for their scientific views. Who is behind this persecution? Why is this happening in America? How did this situation develop?

Question #3:

Should the enterprise of science somehow be treated differently from all other forms of human knowledge, and accorded a special privilege that exempts it from robust debate or inquiry, especially when such debate or inquiry may alter viewpoints that raise important questions concerning larger issues that extend beyond the limits of science itself?

“Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” presents a point-of-view so powerful, that it literally forces a re-examination of these issues.

What’s At Stake

We all know that ideas have consequences.

And our country was founded on principles of free and open debate.

The differences between these two worldviews are certainly consequential. So…why the suppression of scientific debate?

If in our publicly funded schools, universities and institutions our children continue to be taught only this: that all life on earth is the result of a purposeless, meaningless and undirected process of random mutation and natural selection…

What are the consequences over time of teaching this one-sided worldview as if it were fact rather than theory?

Such a change in our government’s official policy represents a deeply troubling shift in our cultural identity and a radical departure from the very principles upon which our country was built.  America is the first Democracy that was founded on the distinctive worldview that “a Creator” conferred “inalienable rights” on human beings, rather than the State, or another institution, such as “Big Science.”

So…how was it decided that the teaching of such a profoundly different worldview should become the official position of the United States of America’s public institutions?

Who was behind the decision? And…why?

“Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” looks to scientists on both sides of the issue…and reveals some truly shocking answers.

22 posted on 12/12/2009 9:03:05 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
Should the enterprise of science somehow be treated differently from all other forms of human knowledge, and accorded a special privilege that exempts it from robust debate or inquiry

In other words, should Science be exempt from scientific process?

23 posted on 12/12/2009 9:13:39 AM PST by pjd
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To: PatriotCJC

I went to the movies and saw it when it came out last year. Beyond the intelligent design/evolution debates, it really brings out the little known secret in the science/medicine disciplines and academia that ANYONE who disagrees with the politically correct group-think is blackballed (i.e. the scientists who question global warming).


24 posted on 12/12/2009 9:15:00 AM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for that synopsis. The 3 definitions represent a shell game evolutionists like to play here at FR. One gent claims evolution is observable and happening daily even though he knows he’s referring to definition 1 while others are debating definition 2 or 3.


25 posted on 12/12/2009 9:15:41 AM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: pjd

“In other words, should Science be exempt from scientific process?”

The scientific process ends when “the science is settled” on issues that are not presently observable (see definition 2 and 3 above). No?


26 posted on 12/12/2009 9:18:30 AM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: PatriotCJC

When the movie first came out, I remember hearing that Ben Stein spent a lot of his own money to make the movie and to get it into theaters. Many theaters were not interested in showing it, so I made it a point to go see it, even though I rarely go to a theater to see first run movies.

I’m glad the movie is still making the rounds. I heard Dr. Stephen Meyer on a radio program not too long ago, and found him to be quite interesting.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/07/28

http://www.signatureinthecell.com/


27 posted on 12/12/2009 9:37:04 AM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: PatriotCJC

http://www.tubemotion.com/media/2121/Expelled_:_No_Intelligence_Allowed_-_2008/

I watched it just now, VERY GOOD!

Consensus is Stagnation of Thought


28 posted on 12/12/2009 10:06:23 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the FEE, home of the SHAMED)
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To: Leonard210
You were saying ...

The 3 definitions represent a shell game evolutionists like to play here at FR. One gent claims evolution is observable and happening daily even though he knows he’s referring to definition 1 while others are debating definition 2 or 3.

I usually break it down into two parts (with #2 and #3 together) and call it "micro-evolution and macro-evolution...

And we do see micro-evolution, which is what the "evolutionists" are showing "us" and saying that this is the proof for "macro-evolution"...

The problem is -- they don't have any proof at all, for macro-evolution and simply keep talking about micro-evolution (when "showing" things to us) and go on and on about their grandiose theory of how all life came into being, from nothing and chance (which is macro-evolution)... LOL...

29 posted on 12/12/2009 10:07:28 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
And if you do want to save any, you can do it on your computer

Indeed. It would never occur to me to rip and burn CDs that I rent from Netflix. I've never even heard of a program called DVD Shrink 3.2. Never, I tell you never!!!!!!!!!

30 posted on 12/12/2009 10:51:57 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: catnipman

:-) ... it’s all for a good cause...


31 posted on 12/12/2009 11:15:53 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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