Posted on 12/13/2009 10:20:05 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Thank you so kindly! It is so heartening to me to see the responses on this thread, and how many kindred spirits are here! I agree with you ... I think the pendulum is going to swing back in a hard way. What really disturbs me is seeing the “social engineering” you reference in the military. It’s the ONE thing about my beloved Cheney that I find so disappointing — that he supported having women serving in combat positions. That blows me away — talk about making a fighting force weaker by distracting warrior men with women close by. Women don’t belong in combat or in combat units; I don’t even think they should be on Navy ships.
There you speak of something I know very well. You market what you've got -- not the other way around. If marketing was what determined the outcome of a product, then the movie Dick Tracy would have been a mega-hit, and Star Wars would never have gotten off the ground (most people either don't know or forget that Star Wars was pretty much a surprise hit and that the real hard-core marketing came AFTER it was clear that it was a mega-hit at the box office).
I make my living dealing with marketers. The best ones understand which is the cart, which is the horse, and which one comes first.
The bad ones think that products are successful because of the marketing. And then when a crappy product fails, they never figure out that the marketing had nothing to do with its failure -- the fact that it was a crappy product is why it failed.
Lots of good logic and sense in your posts Finny. Keep ‘em coming.
I’m about a hundred pages in. Isn’t it amazing that she’s seen this all before in Alaska? Nothing will surprise her.
Gosh ... thank you for the kind words!
I guess a better way of saying it: You create the marketing to fit the product, you don’t create the product to fit the marketing.
Dear "Dick"
Palin has more executive experience than the current President, Vice President and leading 2008 GOP contender combined.
So, go stuff a sock in it.
if you read her biography, you will realize this is a typical smear. They take a sentence or even part of a sentence out of context, erase the paragraph where she explains the nuances, and voila, instant stupidity.
Her remark was not supporting “birthers”: She was pointing out that in America we have freedom of speech, and that such a remark can be asked and should be answered.
Similarly, like others, she is against pollution (She finally got the Exxon Valdez suit settled in favor of the local fishermen, and in her books she explains why it was so devestating to Alaskans) but she also points out that there are questions about the cliches that the left is pushing to destroy the economy.
Read her book...oh I forgot. You are a political writer. YOu make things up and twist them.
you wrote: The Kenyan guy needs to go home to Africa
Please! Kenya is one of the capitalistic successes in Africa...indeed,it is Obama’s “green” agenda (”Eat locally” ) that threatens their agribusinesses...
Don’t wish him on that country to wreck it.
;-)
You’re right Finny. There is no way in h*ll America would vote two women on the ticket in office. I have heard a few freepers talk about a Palin - Bachmann ticket. First off, Palin is too smart to do that and, Secondly, Bachmann would best be served to all of us - including Palin - if she fought Boehner for the Speaker position.
A candidate that can real-in independents would help Palin and make sense, if she can’t get them herself. But Bachmann as Madam Speaker working with Palin to dismantle Acorn, the Federal Reserve and cut spending and taxes makes 100% sense.
Remove Mitch McConnell and get DeMint in the Leadership would also help in the Senate.
Go Sarah!
LOL. At the very least she PO all the RNC/GOP elites and left wing scum. Keep it up Sarah!
Good catch thanks.
I'll take a shot at that.
Fred Thompson.
“You know there are, there are man’s activities that can be contributed to the issues that we’re dealing with now, these impacts.”But all attempts to hold her accountable are routinely dismissed by her fan base as persecution.
Have you not seen the toxic tsunami coming out of China and India? It can be clearly seen from a satellite view. This nasty cloud contains a lot of soot (solid carbon) which, when it lands on the ice pack, causes melting when the sun hits it.
This fact has nothing to with your ridiculous CO2 hoax.
Dick, it's not like we're accusing you of being a lying communist subversive or a fascist propagandist for the ACORN/SEIU crowd, but if the shoe fits...
Feeling persecuted?
Um, that's exactly what you do do.
Marketing is not a back end activity. It's a front end: you create a product by positioning, and that tells you what the right product for the market is. Don't confuse advertising with marketing: it's just one aspect.
You can't back away from my earlier question by saying "Let Sarah decide", not after saying I'm wrong. If not Bachmann, then who?
It's obviously too early to really decide, and so a name is not important. But in terms of ideas, issues and character - who?
Here's a tagline comment: why are we all talking about 2012? The man in office is there illegitimately. He has damaged our country so badly now with his ambition, hubris and contempt for our Constitution that he should not just be taken out of office but tried before the Legislature for abuse of power. He has willfully suppressed his own history because he knows it would disqualify him. Yet he fights to stay in power, which is illegitimate.
The nation needs an impeachment and special election now to remedy this wrong. A qualification I would be looking for in someone now is the willingness to say that.
Good one Comedian.
I think Dick Puller may be confusing Palin with "0"bama!
Palin has abilities that are quite palpable from a cerebral -- as opposed to a "visceral" -- locus of awareness.
If anything it's the hate-America-left that has a visceral dislike for her... and we all know why, don't we?
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You remind me of one of my favorite passages in the radio version of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." Marketers were on the first ship, along with all the hairdressers, middle managers, and telephone sanitizers for a reason.
Again, sorry, Regulator. I've been in this biz for too long and seen too many things get botched and ruined by marketing "geniuses" who didn't know which was the cart and which was the horse, let alone which one came first, but who were highly convinced that they were not only smarter than the creators of the products they were guiding, but smarter than the consumers themselves. The only good marketer is a humble marketer, and they are few and far between.
If you think Bachman or any other female would be a "wise" marketing choice as Palin's running mate, I sure as hell hope you don't make a living in marketing unless all your clients are Liberals and/or crooks who deserve the worst.
Good points, and well said.
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