Skip to comments.Eric Cantor (R) dodges question on Palin's qualification (He's scared of Palin)
Posted on 12/13/2009 7:57:46 PM PST by 4rcane
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I’m not sure about your hostility...I’m not a Romney supporter and I’m definitely not an idiot...just giving a little political analysis...didn’t realize it was a Palin fanboy thread...sorry about that...magritte
If Palin is not the candidate, the GOP will lose by a much wider margin than McCain in 2008. If the GOP party hacks are this stupid, then the party needs to disappear.
I’m not hostile, but how ignorant do you have to be to think that the republican candidate, in the republican primary, that has by far the strongest republican voter support, is the weakest candidate and would be the one needing the sneaky democrat crossover voters?
It is your guys that do not have the support of the republican base, that would need democrat crossovers to put your guy into play.
Eric Canter is a schmuck. You can just tell when you look at this guy that he thinks he is something special. I don’t care if he thinks Sarah Palin is qualified or not, but he doesn’t have to go on national tv and dump on her like that. Obviously these elitist GOP turds have forgotten the rule of not speaking ill of another Republican. What is wrong with the GOP are people who think they are better then everyone else, that people like Sarah Palin who go out there and speak their mind on the issues are somehow “Stupid” and “not qualified” to say what they feel. SCREW U GOP..Sarah has NEVER said one bad word about any member of the GOP, not one..not even McCain who treated her like crap, she has been nothing but loyal to him, yet these “GOP elitists” have the nerve to come on TV and trash her. Its a good thing I don’t give any of my money to the GOP and I won’t be til they get their act together, which probably will be never. Isn’t it ironic, they have no problem trashing Sarah but they refuse to say anything negative about Obama, just goes to show where their priorities are
I am so sick and tired of hearing these GOP “experts” talk about who is qualified and who is not. What the hell has Obama done to qualify himself to be President..he doesn’t have any experience, he hasn’t done a damn thing yet that prick was elected President. Who is the GOP and others to judge if Sarah Palin is qualified. Damn straight she is qualified to be President, wanna know why, she has something called COMMON SENSE, which trumps everything else. I guarentee you this, if she were President right now, we wouldn’t have terrorist countries laughing their asses off at us, we wouldn’t have KSM on his way to New York to be tried for murder where he will make a mockery of our criminal justice system, we wouldn’t be spending trillions of dollars of money we don’t have which our future children and grandchildren will be forced to pay. I’d rather have Sarah Palin as President right now then that narcissistic sack of poo who thinks he deserves a B+ rating for his “job performance” its about damn time we get some good ol fashion common sense back in Washington D.C
... and this one ...
Haly Barbour is an expert, the guy is one of the smartest people I know, and he's a great leader".That's because Geraldo said "Haley Barbour question, is she qualified to be President".
So Cantor talked about Haley Barbour.
Geraldo then added his own thoughts, proclaiming that Palin "scared" Barbour and Cantor. But nothing in the interview with Cantor suggested Cantor had anything but respect and admiration for Palin.
Stop trying to stir up trouble. And for God's sake, stop taking talking points from Geraldo.
I agree with you. Cantor wasn’t in studio (it appeared from the video), so he might not have had a good audio feed.
Everything he said about Palin was complimentary. And I’ve never really heard Cantor say bad things about people in our party — he’s in a party position, and tends to say good things about republicans, and defend them against people like Geraldo.
What does it mean to be “qualified for President” anymore? Obama certainly wasn’t. Palin doesn’t have the experience that others might have. Running the federal government isn’t just about having the right positions on issues, there’s an actual government to run.
But she may well be qualified — a lack of experience doesn’t indicate a lack of qualification, it simply fails to provide proof of qualification.
One thing we noticed during the Bush years — he was good at some things he had no experience in, and bad at others. He wasn’t great at picking the right people to serve him, for example.
Yes, it’s funny watching people take a solid conservative with a 96% rating and call him a RINO. Oddly, that often happens when he serves in his capacity of Republican Cheerleader, which is the quintissential job of a person who is Republican through and through, not “in name only”.
Seems defending the Republican Party makes some people think you are a RINO.
If I thought as poorly about Palin as you do, and believed she would keep an “enemies list”, I would never support her.
But of course, I think much more highly of her than that, and feel disgust that her supporter would trash her through the implication. But a lot of her supporters spend a lot of time denigrating her by putting ideas and thoughts out that she would never consider herself.
So were a lot of other conservatives. Did you have a point? We were all in the country when Obama was elected President — does that reflect badly on us?
I beginning to understand. There’s a blog that suggested Eric Cantor might consider running for President.
So of course the Palin supporters have to trash him early and often.
BTW, I have no real interest in Cantor as President, I just am tired of all the attacks being launched on this site at everybody whose initials aren’t SP.
Could you post a summary of what he said? I can’t access YouTube. Thanks.
Another gutless wonder. Cross him off my list.
You attribute an opinion to others that is in itself your own.
Even if these men believe this it is irrelevant and would cause them to be very much embarrassed should Palin run in 2012.
Remember Cantor was in the group of McCain, Romney, and Jeb Bush who earlier this year had to give away free pizza to get 100 people to show up at their first “listening tour” stop. Whatever happened to that “tour” anyway? I guess they didn’t like what they heard, so they stopped listening. Cantor is just another pathetic inside the beltway weasel.
Please, in the future, warn us that we’re about to see Geraldo if we click the link!
Taking on a sitting president you need passion in your voters, you need them out there giving money, giving time and effort. Palin brings that passion. All other GOP front runners do not. without that passion the GOP loses a close election. And even if they win the new president will not have any type of mandate.
Well, excuse me. Don't you think it is prudent to wait a bit to jump on bandwagons? There is a long way to go and I prefer to see my alternatives before I commit.
A few days ago there was a thread running that alleged that unless someone would commit to Palin they should be purged from the Republican party.
This kind of hero worship is akin to teen age girls at a rock concert.
I may end up supporting Palin but if I do, it will be in spite of these rabid supporters, not because of them.
When humans put someone on a pedestal, it is mighty easy for that person to topple.
Still up on Cantor’s website ...
Our National Panel of Experts:
Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney
John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt
Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Ensign, John Cornyn, John Thune, Kay Bailey Hutchison
Gingrich Joins Cantors Effort To Remake GOP
I agree with you 100%. Heard the ex-Senator Al Damato on Fox over the weekend give the ol' back handed compliment and then "she's not qualified" line. Asked who he thought might be qualified in 2012 --- he names 3 men. I'm starting to think all these Big Tent Republicans only want men in their Big Tent. Someone needs to knock that stupid tent down and build a solid structure with conservatism as the foundation. And Sarah is just the 'man' to do it. The old men are afraid of Sarah.
He needs an alter-ego as badly as Tiger Woods. You know, someone to grab him (hard) by the shoulders and scream:
WAKE THE BLEEP UP, YOU DUMBA$$!!!
What are Canter's lifetime Insider Toady ratings?
Cantor totally joined Rivera in dissing Palin.
Question: The Haley Barbour question, is she qualified to be president, yes or no?
Cantors answer: Haley Barbour is um, he, he is an expert, that guy is one of the smartest people that I know, and he is a real leader.
Questioner: And he [you] didnt answer the question (laughing).
Cantors answer: Smiling (in affirmative), silence.
Questioners conclusion: Like I said to our friend Mike Huckabee last night, I think that Sarah Palin scares main stream republicans like Eric Cantor and Haley Barbour as much as she scares the democrats.
Cantor showed himself to be the enemy of conservatives, see post 78, he declared war on the base.
Don't know if you remember, but at one time in this forum there was a very loud group that thought the same thing about Rudy Guiliani. He was the ONLY one that could beat (fill in the blank) .
There are 3 full years before the next presidential election and that amount of time is an eternity in politics.
Nonsense. Rudy is a RINO and Sarah couldn’t be more different.
WOW... Someone kill that rat on his head!!
Of course I don’t believe in an “enemies list” but we should definitely hold our representatives accountable for the kind of message they put out or imply. We must hold them accountable not only for how they act and vote politically, but what message they give off on national TV—to the general public.
Palin is not afraid to ruffle feathers. She was the enemy of the establishment Republicans in Alaska—in fact she became a “darling of the Democrats” for how well she was willing to get things done without the self-interest that consumes you when you’re too busy dealing with “staying cool” with the the machine movers of your own party rather than paying attention to the VOTERS you SERVE.
The “ole boy” Republicans couldn’t stand her and yet she was able to get so much done in so short a time.
It was a great move for her to come out and support Doug Hoffman in the New York 23rd against the original “Republican” Scozzafava. I am not saying Eric Cantor is the equivalent to a Scozzafava (yet), but his Geraldo interview is hardly the best example of implying that the base has the wrong message or that Palin’s message is “not inclusive” enough.
The other day, he made comments openly criticizing Rush Limbaugh’s impact on the Republican Party by saying “”There is no question the Republican Party has to return to be one of inclusion, not exclusion.” —He implied the same thing about Palin in the Geraldo interview—when actually this “exlusive-sticking-to-principles” message is the only one RESIGNATING with people full force right now! And not just for Republicans, but “moderates” as well...
Honestly, what has Eric Cantor accomplished? What does he have to show for his high ranking position? NOTHING. (at least nothing of note) Romney on the other hand has his failing universal healthcare system in Massachusetts to show for it.
Palin has done more to challenge the socialist agenda in this country to with her “death panel” facebook note and her Washington Post Op-Ed on Climate Change —and she’s not even in D.C.! Peple underestimate the mere power of being willing to STAND for something and put out a clear message. Even if people don’t agree with what you have to say right away, they’ll at least pay attention. People like Cantor should take note.
JustDumbBlonde—I didn’t say Palin WOULD beat Obama, but that she is the only one with a chance. (at least compared to the other contenders)
THe Republicans were mistaken in thinking that by being a “moderate” and “inclusive” you have a better chance of beating liberals. WRONG.
First off, it would been a HUGE mistake putting up a Guiliani against a charismatic, young, new-to-the-public “CHANGE” candidate like Obama. Guiliani was too moderate, too hypocritical with his personal life, and too CLOSE TO BUSH by association and in rhetoric.
TWO complete right wing OUTSIDERS would have had a better chance against Obama than McCain or Romney or the “top picks” from last year. People weren’t looking for “liberalism” (That’s why Obama had to frame himself like a moderate) People were looking for a change from BUSH.
Outsiders who would have been willing to craft a clear-cut message being critical of all the ways BUsh abandoned his own principles with too much spending, too much unaccountability—that kind of message would have resignated (maybe not lead anyone to WIN...people loved Obama) but it would have resignated because people wouldn’t have seen it as the “status quo” Bush/Cheney repeat ticket.
Today, that message being represented clearly and fully by someone who can rival Obama’s youth and charisma—someone like Palin, IS having a great impact already and would have a far greater chance against Obama in 2012.
Not really, you wrote a misleading history, freerepublic despised Giuliani and as conservatives and members of the base, we were fearful of the Romney/Rockefeller insiders of the GOP being able to get him into the nomination.
Now we have the unique situation of having a front running conservative, loved by the base, perhaps being powerful enough that the insiders can't destroy our chances of getting a conservative through the primaries, since she is currently the most popular among republican voters.
The situation is reversed.
Hey Kells..same diff...lol...I just think it’s a mistake to dismiss the Republican establishment in the run-up to 2012...they still wield a good chunk of influence...magritte
Hero Worship it may be - but it’s deserved. Her courage and optimism in the face of the most vile hatred from the left, from the media, and even from men in her own party is astounding. If more people in this country would follow her lead we might have some hope for a new generation of amazing leaders.
Sarah is a hero and an inspiration. We need heroes. We need true leadership. And we don’t need Republican party king-makers tearing her down every chance they get. They do it at their own peril. Because there are a LOT of us Palin supporters who are looking at them right now and saying what Bush said: “You are either with us, or against us.”
I stand with Sarah because she is the only one willing to stand for me.
Magritte, it’s not a “Palin fanboy” thread it’s a Conservative thread. What’s tragic is Palin seems to be the “potential presidential contender” with the guts and hutzpah to actually stand for conservative principles while people like Romney flip flop their way through their careers depending on waht will suit them for their latest election bid.
aye, this is my final post on this thread, but to sum up where I’m coming from:
1) I dont care what “history” has shown so far. History changes. The GOP establishment is kidding themseleves if they think the base will just vote for anyone whos not Obama and has an R next to their name. Thats not true.
2) People don’t realize how much worse the ‘08 election would have turned out for McCain had Palin not been on his ticket. Palin brought out a bunch of people from the base that might not have otherwise voted at all.
3) In terms of independent voters, yes there were some who might have doubted Pailn’s qualificationsbut those people were already leaning towards Obama anyway, and even they had taken an initial liking to Sarah before the media garbage ensued. A lot of them may not be at tea party rallies, but they are not Palin-haters the way the lefitsts are.
4) Many conservatives will either not vote at all or vote 3rd party. (Think of how well Ron Paul did in some places! LoL) The anger conservatives have towards “Rinos” is equal to the anger people have towards Obama.
5) I can already see the tagline Romney and Cantor will use against Palin. They’ll pull the She resigned as governor” thing. Or She has no experience. well Romneys main accomplishment as governor was a failed socialist healthcare experiment and Cantor hasnt shown hismelf to be too impressive in challenging the Pelosi-Reid machine either.
6) Palin on the other hand coined Death Panels with her facebook note and has done more against the Climate CHange agenda with her WaPo Op-Ed than any of them have ever done in their careers.
7) “Independent” people might not agree immediately with Palin’s views—but they will at least pay attention and they have several years to think about what Palin has to say. THAT is the power for standing up for something and having a clear message— and not just playing to your own self-interest the way the “establishment” types do.
You did not comprehand my post in the least. I did not compare Rudy and Sarah. My post simply addressed the comment that Sarah was the ONLY candidate who could beat Obama and that is what is nonsense. We have no idea what will happen between now and 2012, nor do we know who might step up or fall down.
I'm only aware of the first 'listening' event at the northern Virginia pizza parlor. In which Jeb declared the 'era of Reagan dead, gone and not returning' as Cantor and Romney sat by grinning like two obnoxious frat boys.
And where did I say that you did? You said that she was the ONLY one with a chance and I call bunk. At one time there were a bunch of people who said only Rudy could (or had a chance to) beat the democrat and, as it turned out, Rudy couldn't even win a primary. Given what can happen in politics in three years, we have no idea who will beat Obama.
Sigh. I did not say that "the forum" supported Rudy. You know darned good and well that there were a substantial number of Rudybots on this forum and their mantra was that he was the only one in a position to beat (at that time) Hillary. How'd that work out?
Later on in the campaign season, there was a sizeable FredHead contingent and that didn't work out so well either.
My point -- and my only point for those of you reading comprehension challenged folks -- is that there is no ONE person at this point in time that is uniquely positioned to beat Obama. You may disagree, but I did not mislead with my comments.
Wow!! Do you really believe she is the ONLY one standing with you? Look, I may go with her myself but no way do I believe she is the only possible candidate I can support. I have to wait first to see who chooses to run.
Just doing a little informal poll among friends, most have the same attitude that I have. We like her but we're willing to wait to see who else throws their hats into the ring.
Agreed, I'm not doing flip flops over the ones we have now but there is a long way to go.
I just don't understand this Palin worship. It appears childish to me.
We get it, we are all a bunch of kids.
“Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:02:15 PM by Jim Robinson
Being as how I’m a God, Country, Family, small government, traditional American values, Life & Liberty patriotic kind of guy, Sarah Palin IS my cup of tea. My cup runneth over!
I pray she runs.”
He is a wimp.
Palin is the reverse of Giuliani.
Instead of the insiders imposing him on us, we are imposing Palin on the insiders.
Palin is not a hail Mary desperation shot by a small conservative base, Palin by far has the highest approval numbers of any competition. The Giuliani and Thompson situations have nothing in common with the Palin situation.
I don’t have a lick of a problem with it and she is on my list but I don’t put her on some kind of pedestal. I’ll wait to see the total field and then decide.