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California 'ground zero' for '10 election fight
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/13/9 | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 12/13/2009 8:47:53 PM PST by SmithL

Barely a year after the historic election of President Obama, Republicans are talking up 2010 as the "change" election.

In blue-leaning California, the dangers for Democrats are becoming evident as the GOP works to fire up voters with issues like budget deficits, health care reform and the costs of curbing global warming.

"California is ground zero for many of these debates because the problems are bigger and more outside than just about anywhere else," says Andrew Moylan, director of government affairs for the National Taxpayers Union in Washington, which plans to underscore the conservative message on issues like health care, the deficit and spending.

Democrats, who control both houses of the state Legislature, "have dramatically increased spending," Moylan added, "and of course they're having to pay the piper."

GOP gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman, the former eBay CEO, has repeatedly lambasted "the politicians" whom she says have run California into the ground - pointedly referencing Attorney General Jerry Brown, a Democrat and former two-term governor who is running for a third term in next year's election.

"Californians have had it with career politicians - they're done," said Whitman.

A similar theme is emerging in the U.S. Senate race, where Republicans Carly Fiorina, a former Hewlett-Packard CEO, and Assemblyman Chuck DeVore of Irvine are vying to oust U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer, a Democrat.

Fiorina said recently in Washington that she has the best shot at defeating Boxer. "If someone has a spending problem," Fiorina said, "you stop giving them money."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2010elections; bluestate; goldenstate

1 posted on 12/13/2009 8:47:53 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

We can vote for the candidate we might like to see in the senate or vote for the one who has the best chance of beating Babs Boxer.
Carly Fiorina not my first choice but she has the best chance of beating Boxer.
This State and the country can’t put up with another 6 years of Left wing Boxer.


2 posted on 12/13/2009 8:58:35 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SmithL
Whitman has an excellent chance against whomever the SIEU/ACORN nominates for Dem candidate for governor.

Carly Fiorina can also do well against the U.S. Military-hating Mrs. Boxer, who is gifted , arguably, with the lowest level of cognitive ability among her colleagues within the Senate.

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3 posted on 12/13/2009 9:14:53 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

That’s a fancy way of saying Boxer is as intelligent as a brick?
My money goes on the brick. Boxer is the very face of “stupid”.


4 posted on 12/13/2009 9:20:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SoCalPol; SmithL
We can vote for the candidate we might like to see in the senate or vote for the one who has the best chance of beating Babs Boxer.

Heard the same thing with Arnold.

That's the last mistake I'll make voting for someone who does not support my principles because somebody else tells me that they have the best chance to beat the enemy.

Sorry, but Carly is extremely Pro-Abortion.

Not a chance in hell I'll vote for somebody that support killing babies.
5 posted on 12/13/2009 9:31:11 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SmithL; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dalereed; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
It's just a cryin shame to have to consider either Whitman, or Fiorina for anything... There are righteous conservatives to vote for, especially against Boxer if everyone would get offa their differentials and quit parroting the so-called "CONventional Wisdom" that only non-voting, liberal Repellicans "can win."

That ridiculous posture should neither be bought, nor sold!!!

Especially with the convergent, resurgent ground-swell of anti-Democrat resentment that's erupting right under our noses!!! I hear the lava boiling just under the political surface with the ground shaking and about to erupt like mount Pinatubo!!!

6 posted on 12/13/2009 9:31:12 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

and Babs Boxer is more Conservative, I don’t think so.


7 posted on 12/13/2009 9:32:37 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoConPubbie
"That's the last mistake I'll make voting for someone who does not support my principles because somebody else tells me that they have the best chance to beat the enemy."

And don't let any of these APPEASERS talk you out of your clear thinking decision this time!!!

It's better to go down fighting on your feet, than to live four to six years on your knees because you wavered!!!

8 posted on 12/13/2009 9:39:07 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: SmithL
"Californians have had it with career politicians - they're done," said Whitman.

Isn't that what Arnold said? Since the institution of term limits all we've had is a batch of amateurs looking to lobbyists for an "exit strategy."

9 posted on 12/13/2009 9:39:36 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Mao was right about power and guns; which is why he confiscated them.)
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To: Lancey Howard
That's a fancy way of saying Boxer is as intelligent as a brick?

Oui.

Not all Dems are stupid, of course. Some are quite bright (with Jon Stewart being just about the smartest and quickest among the lot.)

That said, I suspect that poor Mrs. Boxer is at the other side of the mental facility curve, in the "tails" as it were.

Unfortunately, Mrs. Boxer's slowness of wit and apparent limits in ability to see simple relationships do not keep her from wanting to order our lives for us.

I do suspect that she is aware that her slow "processor speed"; and as proof, watch her do everything she can to minimize if not avoid a full serious of formal debates with Ms. Fiorina.

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10 posted on 12/13/2009 9:40:25 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner
Whitman is a disaster. video Meg Whitman: Romney handpicked me and "I'm A Huge Fan Of Van Jones"
11 posted on 12/13/2009 9:41:25 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ansel12
I like to listen to jazz....

And enjoy 94.7 The Wave....for the most part.

Whitman is advertising like crazy on that station.

She's a RINO....no doubt about that!

If I still lived in SoCal...I would not vote for her.

Sorry GOP...but the conservative candidates are getting my MONEY...and VOTE for now on!

12 posted on 12/13/2009 9:47:47 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: ansel12
It's troubling, I'll give you that.

And, I don't yet know who I'll vote for in the primary.

That said, Whitman has the best chance of nomination, so I'll likely be voting for her.

Whomever the GOPer is, it won't be another RR; and it's so critical that we do not get an Angelides or a Newsome. We are already in the poor house, we can't survive a collectivist administration.

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13 posted on 12/13/2009 9:51:17 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Osage Orange

Her ads are constant, just like Romney she is willing to spend vast fortunes in the hopes for power and liberal politics.


14 posted on 12/13/2009 9:51:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: SoCalPol
and Babs Boxer is more Conservative, I don’t think so.

Disenguous at best on your part!

I never said she was more or less conservative anything.

Just that I won't vote anymore for someone because they have an R next to their name and because somebody is too chicken to fight for their principles. BTW, I meant you by that remark.

Most people vote their conscience in the Primary, but you want all of us who have a conscience to vote against our conscience on the weakness of your claim that she is the only one who can win.

As I mentioned below, I heard that lie before. It was not true then and is not true now.
15 posted on 12/13/2009 9:54:10 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Seaplaner; ansel12
Whomever the GOPer is, it won't be another RR; and it's so critical that we do not get an Angelides or a Newsome. We are already in the poor house, we can't survive a collectivist administration.

Same crappy argument we heard about Arnold and he has only further destroyed the Golden State and the GOP.

That lie was not true when it was used for Arnold, Tom McClintock would have easily won if the GOP had gotten behind him.

The same is true for DeVore.
16 posted on 12/13/2009 9:56:30 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Wishful thinking will get you 6 more yrs. of Boxer.


17 posted on 12/13/2009 10:03:48 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: ansel12

Ditto that..........


18 posted on 12/13/2009 10:04:05 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: SmithL
"Californians have had it with career politicians - they're done," said Whitman.

Gee Meg, ya think?

19 posted on 12/13/2009 10:17:15 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: SoConPubbie
I have a lot to learn re each candidate, and could be persuaded to vote for De Vore in the primary.

That said, I will vote GOP in the general election.

Yes, I'd even take a RINO over any Marxist that the Dems put on the ballot.

Case in point, I would much rather have the RINO weasel McCain as pres than the apparent collectivist we now have. Mister Obama can do so very much damage before his term ends, much more that McCain could have screwed things up.

A Dem in Sacramento would be a willing accomplice to the Obama confiscations of rights and property.

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20 posted on 12/13/2009 10:25:59 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: SmithL; SoCalPol; Seaplaner

Pretty sad the Republican party is so broke it has to choose billionaires to run and pay for their own campaigns.


21 posted on 12/13/2009 10:28:47 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: SoCalPol
Wishful thinking will get you 6 more yrs. of Boxer.

At least it won't be a senator from my party shaming me by voting for pro-abort legislation, global warming legislation, universal healthcare legislation, or whatever else is politically correct at the time.

At least it won't be a senator from my party shaming me by voting for something that she said she wouldn't vote for when she was campaigning.

In other words, I'm willing to live with that if the only choice I have is someone who does not represent my principles, but just has an 'R' next to her name.

That 'R' represents nothing to me if she does not represent my principles.
22 posted on 12/14/2009 10:15:21 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Fiorina does not support or would not vote for ObamaCare

I am against abortions. Roe v Wade was a supreme court decision, I don’t think Fiorina was on the court when that decision was made.

She is for a stonge defense not for digging a bunker in your back yard.

Since a conservative will not win in a state that has an overwhelming reg. of Liberal Democrats, instead of voting
for someone other than Fiorina just to say, I did my bit and then know you helped Boxer be re elected who is far more
liberal than Fiorina and will vote Left Wing all the way.

I have spent the past years in the streets countering the Code Pinkos face to face, the pro Hamas, the pro illegals.
I worked in Reagan campaign when he first ran for Gov.
I go face to face almost daily with liberals including
some who are grads from the Kennedy school of gov. at Harvard.

Some on FR are keyboard comandos, I have walked the walk.


23 posted on 12/14/2009 11:23:50 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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