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The Zinning of America (why the Left-wing controlls the "telling" of our history)
Pajamas Media ^ | December 12, 2009 7:06 pm | Ron Radosh

Posted on 12/13/2009 8:57:47 PM PST by JSDude1

Edited on 12/13/2009 9:10:21 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Part I

In 1997, Matt Damon played the part of a janitor who turned out to be not only a math wizard, but one of the most brilliant men you could find anywhere. Trying to impress an arrogant Harvard student, who thought he knew everything, Damon’s character quotes from Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States. He tells the Harvard kid and a psychiatrist at the hospital he works at that “you’re surrounding yourself with all the wrong f****n’ books. You wanna read a real history book, read Howard Zinn’s People’s History of the United States. That book’ll [explitive deleted] you on your [explative].”

A few years later, HBO’s “The Sopranos” had a Columbus Day episode. Tony’s kid informs him that they don’t celebrate it at school, because Columbus was a practitioner of genocide against the Indian natives in the new land. When Tony asks him where he got that from, he tells him it was from their school textbook , Zinn’s People’s History.

Zinn’s book has now gone through many editions, and became the single best selling text of history that has ever been published- selling over two million copies—some 128,000 each year since his first edition was published over twenty years ago! Schools around the nation actually use it as a textbook. As Dan Flynn notes, the course statement for a history class at Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA states that “This is an advanced class and all students should have read Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States before the first day of class, to give us a common background to begin the class.”

So if you want to know why the current generation hews to a left-wing world view, look no further than the influence of Zinn.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cluelessindc; falsehistory; history; historychannel; historyeducation; hollywood; howardzinn; learning; leftists; mattdamon; rewritinghistory; teaching; zinn
We need a Conservative Documentarian to counter this propogandist (selective) version of American History.
1 posted on 12/13/2009 8:57:47 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

Adminstrator: I forgot to edit the first explative in the paragraph (I am sorry), please feel free to take it our.

JSDude1.


2 posted on 12/13/2009 8:59:54 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: JSDude1

I’ve read it. The message I got from it was that I should be ashamed of myself for being a white-trash imperialist.


3 posted on 12/13/2009 9:04:37 PM PST by phredo53 (Caution: This post does not comply with White House standards.)
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To: JSDude1
Paul Johnson's A History of the American People (Harper Collins, 1997) is a good one-volume (~1000 pages) antidote to Zinn's book, though as I haven't finished it I'm not sure how conservative he is overall. Reading the Right Books, which is put out by the Heritage Foundation, also has a section on conservative American history books.
4 posted on 12/13/2009 9:08:05 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: phredo53

There certainly seem to be a lot of descendants of eastern European immigrants among prominent anti-American writers. I wonder what the story is with that. Anyone have any ideas?


5 posted on 12/13/2009 9:10:25 PM PST by ruination
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To: JSDude1; LS

“We need a Conservative Documentarian to counter this propogandist (selective) version of American History.”

Paging LS. Liberal rewrite of history cleanup needed on Aisle 3.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595230017/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=


6 posted on 12/13/2009 9:23:07 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: ruination
There certainly seem to be a lot of descendants of eastern European immigrants among prominent anti-American writers. I wonder what the story is with that. Anyone have any ideas?

Some Eastern European Jews coming from a background of Tsarist oppression not too surprising gravitated towards labor unions and such as a means of protecting the weak, and that continued when they came to this country and no longer had a Tsar oppressing them. Their children picked up the same attitudes, and some of them grew up to become the violent 60s radicals.

To this day, many Jews reflexively vote left wing even though the left wing now stands for oppression. A lot of them have figured out what is going on, and that the left is no friend of American Jews. Obama's conduct in office is making this obvious.
7 posted on 12/13/2009 9:25:08 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta

Interesting. I guess that could explain things like the SPLC, ACLU, ADL, etc too.


8 posted on 12/13/2009 9:35:54 PM PST by ruination
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To: JSDude1

Or if a ten or twenty lefty academics found a reason to retire early and go into hiding.


9 posted on 12/13/2009 10:07:48 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: JSDude1; LS

We’ve got one. His name is Larry Scweikart.


10 posted on 12/13/2009 10:34:56 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: JSDude1; LS

We’ve got one. His name is Larry Schweikart.


11 posted on 12/13/2009 10:35:42 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: sthguard

Paul Johnson is VERY conservative. He’s the one who wrote the “Intellectuals” featuring several profiles (unflattering) of leftist intellectuals from Rousseau to Marx to Hemingway.


12 posted on 12/14/2009 1:55:41 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: JSDude1

Read Paul Johnson’s “A History of the American People.”


13 posted on 12/14/2009 3:28:23 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: WOSG; Mr. Silverback

I can’t say much except to tell you that I’ve been in discussions with some important people who are indeed looking at countering this.


14 posted on 12/14/2009 3:31:41 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: sthguard
Johnson is pretty good. He gets a lot of minor details wrong, being English and all, but my main beef is that he can't figure out if tax cuts caused the Great Depression or not, so I think he tells a confusion story about the Great Depression. I'm satisfied that our

Patriot's History of the United States is a much better book overall.

15 posted on 12/14/2009 3:33:47 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: nonliberal
His book "Modern Times" was fantastic. His "History of the American People," not quite so. I prefer our book, A Patriot's History of the United States for a lot of reasons. First, Johnson is a tad too much an admirer of Teddy Roosevelt; second, he's never sure if low taxes are good or not; and third, he just makes a lot of little errors (as we all do, but I think Mike Allen and I got all our errors out now).
16 posted on 12/14/2009 3:36:06 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS
I just bought:

The American Patriot's Handbook: The Writings, History, and Spirit of a Free Nation by George Grant

(here's what the catalog had to say): From the mid-nineteenth to the mid-twentieth century, it was common for schoolchildren in the United States to be presented with a primer containing important articles that were key to understanding the moral and social values on which the country was founded. Drawing upon this tradition, George Grant has created an updated anthology for the contemporary citizen. Bookended by an excerpt from Christopher Columbus’s Book of Prophesies and George W. Bush’s speech on the one-year anniversary of 9/11, the more than fifty pieces featured in this compilation trace the evolution of the American creed from Colonial times to the modern era. Grant’s selections, which span both sides of the political spectrum, range from legal articles and historical documents to literary works and song lyrics. History buffs, political junkies, and all patriotic souls will be inspired by this compelling and meaningful collection.

17 posted on 12/14/2009 3:46:18 AM PST by ZinGirl
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To: JSDude1
When school appropriations bills come up - VOTE AGAINST THEM - ALL OF THEM.

When you get a letter from your college asking for donations, refuse. The Education Establishment hates conservatives - and we NEED TO QUIT supporting them.

18 posted on 12/14/2009 3:52:52 AM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
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To: ZinGirl
Yes. But realize George Grant is not the author of A Patriot's HISTORY of the United States, which is a full-fledged, soup-to-nuts history of the U.S.
19 posted on 12/14/2009 5:13:12 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: ruination

Not eastern european immigrants per se, but rather eastern european immigrants of Jewish extraction. It remains a mystery to me why so many Jews tend toward socialistic ideals. Even more puzzling to me is their attitude towards defense of Israel. I have a very good Jewish friend/colleague whose grandparents were communists and he is decidedly leftwing himself. David Horowitz=another example, but he saw the light.


20 posted on 12/14/2009 5:19:22 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: LS
I know.....we already have that one! ;)

actually, the Grant book I bought for my nephew who is a sophomore at JMU. Last I knew, he wanted to major in English and maybe go on to teach high schoolers.....this book was a good collection of famous speeches, writings, etc.

21 posted on 12/14/2009 5:20:13 AM PST by ZinGirl
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To: ruination
I wonder what the story is with that. Anyone have any ideas?

Jooos?

22 posted on 12/14/2009 5:23:04 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: ruination
The Secret to the Suicidal Liberal Mind

Liberalism is thus not a political ideology or set of beliefs. It is an envy-deflection device, a psychological strategy to avoid being envied.

It is possible to perceive the passions of the Left as frenzies of masochism. What could be more idiotic and masochistic than to oppose missile defense? This opposition cannot be understood unless one dispenses with its rhetoric and rationales and realizes that these folks at their emotional core do not want their country defended.

The lunacy of the "global warming" hoax cannot be comprehended other than that its masochistic advocates do not want their civilization to prosper. The culture-destroying immigration policies that Pat Buchanan warns are causing "The Death of the West" were put in place by those who do not want their culture to survive.

23 posted on 12/14/2009 5:28:02 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: JSDude1

H.W. Crocker III’s “The Politically Incorrect Guide to The Civil War” is a good place to start.


24 posted on 12/14/2009 5:42:17 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: ruination

See David Horowitz’s book, “Radical Son”. In it, he talks about how many “red diaper babies”-children of immigrant parents from eastern bloc countries who were enthralled by socialism and communism. Another reason to be wary of immigration, IMO.


25 posted on 12/14/2009 6:18:40 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: ZinGirl

Oh, yes. there are a lot out there.


26 posted on 12/14/2009 7:40:06 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: ruination

Those intellectuals did not originate the self hate rituals those disgusting rites had been in place for centuries, but they were smart enough to pile on and profit from them.


27 posted on 12/14/2009 7:41:18 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: xsmommy
Actually many "white ethnic groups" remain quite liberal, or at least vote that way in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. The Irish and Greek immediately come to mind. And it isn't just an America phenomenon. But for the revanchist stupidity of the Irish, Welsh and Scots the UK would be far more conservative.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012145.html
28 posted on 12/14/2009 8:04:34 AM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: LS

I’ve read both Modern Times and History of the American People. Yes, there are a few minor errors but overall, I think it was very much a glowing portrayal of America and the American people.


29 posted on 12/14/2009 8:26:41 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: LS

Thanks for the tip; I’ll check out your book.


30 posted on 12/14/2009 10:31:12 AM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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Posted on 12/14/2009 8:55:43 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2407237/posts


31 posted on 12/14/2009 6:58:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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