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Frequent flier fears for future after midair incident
WFAA-TV ^ | December 13, 2009 | Monika Diaz

Posted on 12/14/2009 6:57:45 AM PST by OkeyDokeyOkie

John Reed keeps flying, but he wonders if an incident on board an American Airlines flight to Dallas will ground him — or even lead to federal charges.

"I have this hanging over my head for an indefinite period of time," he said. "I just need some closure."

Reed, who lives in California, received a federal warning for his alleged behavior on December 6 aboard Flight 614 from Sacramento to Dallas. The warning accused him of threatening, intimidating and/or interfering with a flight.

Reed was sitting in the first class section when he asked for a glass of orange juice during breakfast service — but he said he got more than OJ from one of the flight attendants.

"She launched into a one-minute tirade about how I should not be asking for orange juice at this time of her service," Reed recalled.

(Excerpt) Read more at wfaa.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanairlines
Fox & Friends interviewed a woman who was seated in first class with this passenger who was, by all accounts verbally abused by a flight attendant, who added insult to injury by filing a formal complaint against him--an Executive Platinum flier (meaning he flew at least 100,000 miles on AA last year)--that will, in affect, potentially ground him from flying on any US airline.

According to this morning's interview with the fellow traveler, not even one of the other passengers in first class corroborates the flight attendant's reason for filing the complaint.

1 posted on 12/14/2009 6:57:45 AM PST by OkeyDokeyOkie
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

She was probably upset at the proposed cuts in Medicare.


2 posted on 12/14/2009 7:01:12 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

Just out of curiosity, what race was the flight attendant?


3 posted on 12/14/2009 7:02:17 AM PST by resistance (abandon all hope and reason, become a democrat)
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To: resistance

Angry.


4 posted on 12/14/2009 7:03:33 AM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: resistance

OMG!

You racist /sarc


5 posted on 12/14/2009 7:04:51 AM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

I think the passenger can sue this lady for defamation. Especially since she filed false statements to the FAA. If he has 5 witnesses I would have her pummeled in federal court.


6 posted on 12/14/2009 7:07:05 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie
not even one of the other passengers in first class corroborates the flight attendant's reason for filing the complaint.

They're next.

7 posted on 12/14/2009 7:10:39 AM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Walkingfeather

No he’s not racist. I got a similar treatment in a Red Carpet club from an Amish attendant when I asked about changing a ticket which is her friggin job) She proceeded to tell me that things are soon going to be different with Obama in the WH. They really think that they have immunity to be outright a-holes because the Kenyan Klod is in DC.


8 posted on 12/14/2009 7:11:17 AM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

Jees! I started reading this thinking he was one of the “me first” prima donnas that are unfortunately all too common on flights these days, but nothing could be further from the truth. All the witnesses backed up his story.

What a witch! The flight attendant needs to be fired, no re-assigned.


9 posted on 12/14/2009 7:13:27 AM PST by bigbob
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

As a AA EXPLAT myself I have been following this with great interest since Koss blogged about it.

On our Frequent Flyers forums (like flyer talk) this is all the talk.

This is NOT untypical of AA Flight Attendants. I (along with countless other Elite AA travellers) may have not had such a bad incident, but more than enough I have been treated like dirt by the highly unionized Flight Attendants.

It is now so bad in the front cabins of AA, that most of the elite (ie... frequent fliers) travelers now know what buttons not to push.

Great things NOT to ask an AA flight attendant:

1. Pre takeoff drink (which used to be the norm)
2. Delayed dinner (in case you want to take a nap)
3. Immigration documents (in case you are flying to another country. AA is supposed to hand them out, but mostly they dont)
4. Any connecting gate information

Basically, attitude is “shut up and sit down and dont talk oherwise you are a terrorist and we have carte blanche authority to report you”

Osama bin Laden must be laughing now with his goat seeing how he has once again managed to screw America


10 posted on 12/14/2009 7:14:49 AM PST by SoftwareEngineer (`)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Remind me again - who pays her salary? Obama?


11 posted on 12/14/2009 7:23:42 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie
"'For the next several months, I am going to get on flights, wondering, am I being flagged? Is this particular flight attendant going to be on that flight?,' Reed said. 'I was told that this was a serious issue.'""

Asking for a glass of OJ's serious, huh.
Having an old bag either suffering a serious bout of PMS, burnout or both is a LOT more serious a threat. To AAs.

Reed must use every FF mile with AAs he has, ASAP.
Afterward Reed would need his head examined if he flew AAs ever again.

Yet another in a growing list citing inmates running the institution. LOL

12 posted on 12/14/2009 7:25:32 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: resistance

Sadly, that was my exact first thought too. Maybe I’m wrong, but I see a potential behavior pattern here.


13 posted on 12/14/2009 7:28:57 AM PST by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

Saw the F & F interview also. One of the most interesting things was John the Passenger said after the FA went off on him she said, “ Is this the first time you’ve ever been in 1st Class?” She also asked him to come to the front of the plane by the cockpit door so she could talk to him in private, but the passengers told him not to go because he wouldn’t have a witness. They also said if she felt threatened by this passenger, why would she want to get him to a private location. This FA needs some customer service refresher training.


14 posted on 12/14/2009 7:30:59 AM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie
P.M.S.!!!
15 posted on 12/14/2009 7:32:43 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SoftwareEngineer

You are correct, in another life I used to fly for the airlines. Since 911 passengers who question bad service get threats of interference with a flight crew. My suggestion is to fly foreign airlines when flying international, I found the Asian and European airlines to generally have superior service. In addition I only fly when I absolutely have to, this is merely one of the many hassles associated with flying. As the saying goes “Time to spare go by air”


16 posted on 12/14/2009 7:39:39 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: SoftwareEngineer

I’m a Platinum sitting on an aa flight as I type this and I must say that I haven’t encountered any problems with the Flight attendants .

The ticket agents are another story


17 posted on 12/14/2009 7:40:50 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

I agree about the foreign airlines.We are able to fly out of NY,if Jet Blue flies there were on it.Everyone knows the drill and we have never had a problem.


18 posted on 12/14/2009 7:47:59 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

The flight attendant should be fired, period.


19 posted on 12/14/2009 7:51:37 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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To: Landru
Yet another in a growing list citing inmates running the institution. LOL

Don't be mean! Don't you recognize "social justice" when you see it? (Sarc)

20 posted on 12/14/2009 7:54:03 AM PST by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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To: Harley

Sounds like his major crime was responding all uppity-like about her question being condescending.

Don’t you honkies know you are not supposed to talk back to impo-tent peoples like the First Class cabin stewardess?


21 posted on 12/14/2009 7:59:12 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: dumpthelibs

Back in my grandfather’s day they undoubtedly had a solution for behavior like that.


22 posted on 12/14/2009 7:59:36 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: resistance
"Just out of curiosity, what race was the flight attendant? "

A reasonable question...several years ago on an American Airlines flight from Honolulu to Atlanta, I asked a black attendent for some more soda, and I got the full "aunt ester" attitude huff-job.

It was a 9-hour flight and they gave us about 3 ounces of coke in a glass, and I just asked for the remainder of the can, and you'd think I asked for the starboard engine or something.

Since then, I avoid American Airlines at all costs.

Yeah...it makes a difference, for sure.
23 posted on 12/14/2009 8:05:39 AM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: Bernard Marx
"Don't be mean!"

But it's my nature, Bernie.
Don'tchu want me to be happy?
I have my rights, y'know. LOL

"Don't you recognize "social justice" when you see it?"

I constantly struggle in the area of social justice recognition, my friend. But, I know a nut when I see/hear one.

In the car business a[ny] salesman who'll scare customers away is called a, "Frankenstein". AAs has a genuine Frankenstein & a real doosey, at that. LOL

"(Sarc)"

Yea me too, kind of. LOL ;^)

24 posted on 12/14/2009 8:06:00 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: resistance

Race doesn’t come into this. Flight attendants often go into a rage and go ballistic on innocent, random customers. I’ve seen it happen to others - and it’s happened to me (when I was in first class as a Premier frequent flier on Delta).

The airline usually comps you with $500-or-so but leaves a black mark in your records.


25 posted on 12/14/2009 8:09:03 AM PST by RossA
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To: dumpthelibs

Is Amish a code word now?


26 posted on 12/14/2009 8:13:01 AM PST by altura
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

Next time bring a headwrap, prayer rug, and start chanting in a funny language. You’ll get your orange juice and whatever you want. There will be no agents waiting for you when you land.


27 posted on 12/14/2009 8:20:36 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

One look at the guy and you know why this happened. WHITE.


28 posted on 12/14/2009 8:26:31 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: SoftwareEngineer

I flew American Airlines once in 1998. The experience was so bad it was enough to convince me to never step foot in their planes again. Rude, surly, and hostile gate attendants, bad in-flight service, etc., etc.

I don’t understand why anyone voluntarily flies them outside of those stuck with them in Dallas and Miami.

USAirways, Delta, Midwest, and Southwest can get me everywhere I need to go. Why bother with others?


29 posted on 12/14/2009 8:34:44 AM PST by Heliand
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

Why I avoid American Airlines.


30 posted on 12/14/2009 8:47:38 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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