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Al Franken feuds with GOP's No. 4
Politico ^ | 12/14/09 | MANU RAJU

Posted on 12/14/2009 10:40:39 PM PST by Nachum

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) sparred sharply on the Senate floor Monday evening, a departure from the usually dormant speeches in the august chamber.

Franken said he was struck by a speech in which he said Thune had refused to highlight when benefits to the health care bill would kick in and instead emphasized the negative parts of the bill.

“You know, again, we are entitled to our own opinions, we’re not entitled to our own facts,” Franken said, his booming voice rising. And in a reference to a chart Thune held up, Franken said: “If you’re going to hold up a chart that says when taxes kick in and when benefits kick in, you say 1,800 days, you better include the benefits that do kick in right away.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: al; feuds; franken; gop

1 posted on 12/14/2009 10:40:42 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Sounds like Franken is Politico’s new hero.


2 posted on 12/14/2009 10:42:49 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Nachum

Hey, Al, STFU.


3 posted on 12/14/2009 10:49:06 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Nachum; skeeter; ozzymandus

I knew his true nature would come bubbling back up.

Expect to soon see such antics on a weekly, if not daily basis.


4 posted on 12/14/2009 10:51:48 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Nachum

He sounds like the blowhard at the school committee meeting who reads stuff out of The Nation, and everyone groans when he gets up to talk.


5 posted on 12/14/2009 10:51:52 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: Nachum
“You know, again, we are entitled to our own opinions, we’re not entitled to our own facts,” Franken said

Except which votes to count.

6 posted on 12/14/2009 10:54:07 PM PST by the_daug
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To: Darkwolf377

I don’t think he is dumb as freepers think he is. He actually stumped an insurance lobbyist witness with the question how many personal bankruptcy occur in France due to medical bills. The lobbyists did not know or wasn’t sure so she went into the boilerplate response when the answer was none. What she should have pointed out to Sen Franken is that though there is no personal bankruptcies in socialist medical care, the Europeon system is facing bankruptcies as people live longer and the high taxes discourage large families which are required to keep the system financed.


7 posted on 12/14/2009 10:58:01 PM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Nachum
“You know, again, we are entitled to our own opinions, we’re not entitled to our own facts,” Franken said,...

Except in books that you write about conservatives.
And in elections in Minnesota.

8 posted on 12/14/2009 11:08:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: TigersEye

Didnt he steal that quote from someone else?


9 posted on 12/14/2009 11:09:20 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Fee
What she should have said to diaper boy is that his question is irrelevant as France is no the U.S. and therefore their is no rational reason to ask a question about Bankruptcy in France. If that is something that concerns you i would suggest that you run for elective office in Rheims, and stop reaming the American public with your fascism, douche!
10 posted on 12/14/2009 11:13:35 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Armedanddangerous

It’s an old old quote. I have no idea who said it first.


11 posted on 12/14/2009 11:15:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: sinanju

I expect he’ll eventually get into a fistfight with somebody. Here’s hoping Al gets his ass beat.


12 posted on 12/14/2009 11:17:17 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Nachum

Mr. Thune, you should not try to have an intellectual argument with an unarmed opponent.


13 posted on 12/14/2009 11:20:55 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Exactly. A cow farts in India. Do we tax it?


14 posted on 12/14/2009 11:27:27 PM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: Darkwolf377; Salamander; Slings and Arrows; Markos33
"Look at MEEEEEEEEEEE!"


15 posted on 12/14/2009 11:28:42 PM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: smokingfrog
"...you should not try to have an intellectual argument with an unarmed opponent."

Oh! I always thought it was..."Never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man!"

Or, "Never wrestle with the pigs! You'll get all muddy and the pigs will enjoy it far more than you!!!"

16 posted on 12/14/2009 11:32:15 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: Nachum

17 posted on 12/14/2009 11:41:06 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Nachum
frankensteal

Anything this evil man does gets me mad because he should not even be in the Senate.

18 posted on 12/14/2009 11:49:23 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Nachum

I saw this exchange, and Al Franken wiped the snot from his nose with his fingers.


19 posted on 12/14/2009 11:50:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: skeeter
Sounds like Franken is Politico’s new hero.

Like many liberals he also plagiarizes others. That " ... not entitled to your own facts" comment was one Daniel Patrick Monyhan made, I think. I know someone did.

20 posted on 12/15/2009 12:03:07 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: ozzymandus

Al Franken is an idiot - sad but true.

He has no moral compass and no brains. My 12 year-old knows more than he does about American government, the Constitution, and our Founding Fathers.

The Senate is supposed to be a place of professional decorum and polite debate. The Democrats led by Dirty Harry have turned it into a cesspool where freshman comedians think they can lecture and denigrate a fine, respectable, gentleman Senator like John Thune.


21 posted on 12/15/2009 12:36:39 AM PST by billsgottago (Government is like a baby. A big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other end.)
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To: Nachum

What needs to happen is this: Al Franken needs to be sued.

Don’t ask me what for; the liberals never need a real reason. Tie this never-funny-comedian up in court. He has no business writing legislation, he can’t even write a decent joke.


22 posted on 12/15/2009 1:28:03 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Fee
I don’t think he is dumb as freepers think he is. He actually stumped an insurance lobbyist witness with the question how many personal bankruptcy occur in France due to medical bills.

He is dumb. He didn't know either, until a staffer found some obscure statistic and dug it up. Any answer the lobbyist gave would've been wrong, because that dork uses taxpayer money to pay some hack to find all sorts of details about such junk.

So when I say he didn't "know", I mean he merely read off a sheet of paper. He is a clueless boob, just like his Dear Leader BO.

23 posted on 12/15/2009 1:30:27 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nachum

>> you better include the benefits that do kick in right away.

OK, what are they?

As far as I can tell, the taxpayer will be hit 2x for the cost insurance for the next 5 years.


24 posted on 12/15/2009 1:37:38 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Fee

I didn’t say he was dumb. I said he come across like a blowhard, which he does. :)


25 posted on 12/15/2009 1:57:42 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: shibumi; Salamander

Daily Condemnation with Stuart Smally


"I'm ugly enough. I'm stupid enough.
And doggonit, people know I'm a jackass!"

26 posted on 12/15/2009 2:32:15 AM PST by Semper Mark (Merry Christmas.)
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To: Fee
"I don’t think he is dumb as freepers think he is. He actually stumped an insurance lobbyist witness with the question..."

You cannot seriously believe Franken does his own research and formulates his own questions, do you? These clowns, all od them have staff that hand them paperwork which they READ whe they are in session. This is exactly like Obambi does when he makes a speech. Reading from a piece of paper or a teleprompter does not make someone smart.

27 posted on 12/15/2009 2:50:13 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Jim from C-Town

Gee Jim, I don’t think that’s the type of cordial response the senate’s looking for. LOL!


28 posted on 12/15/2009 2:52:32 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Nachum

Just how dumb are the people in Minn.? From my view..very!


29 posted on 12/15/2009 3:15:15 AM PST by mort56 (He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. - Ben Franklin)
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To: mort56

I used to work with a guy from Minnesota. He thought he was a super genius and kept talking about his invention and how it was going to make him million$. He was also the biggest damn Liberal I have ever met. He was a sponge for NPR and could reguritate the latest talking points ad nauseum. But when I attempted to point out the logical fallacies in what he would say. It was like a iron curtain came down. Very frustrating to me and I eventually just stopped talking to him and did my best to avoid him at work.

In the end he was still working his Union Job when I left to go pursue my own business dreams.


30 posted on 12/15/2009 4:50:27 AM PST by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare")
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To: The Working Man

NPR - National Propaganda Radio.

The first thing we must do once the revolution begins is to eliminate taxpayer funding of that brainwashing machine.

Al Franken - what an embarrassment to Minnesota and to this country.

But, actually, a good poster boy for the DemCommie Party in the Senate - which is a JOKE.

Sadly the joke is on this country.


31 posted on 12/15/2009 5:00:44 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: Nachum

Al is Minnesota’s gift to the zoo.


32 posted on 12/15/2009 5:23:34 AM PST by IbJensen (A Prayer for Obama (Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: Nachum

I just don’t get it. Why did the Republicans allow Franken to be seated in the senate ?

It seems he “won” the ellection by miraculously finding votes that were previously lost. Shades of Acorn! Did anyone believe this excrement?

A Senate slot is just too important (thanks to the 27th ammendment). The senate is supposed to balance the States’ interests against the populist interest. NOT be another populist body that’s easier to control sinxe there’s fewer people.


33 posted on 12/15/2009 5:49:10 AM PST by Veristhorne
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To: Nachum

Franken is an obsenity.

Thanks, Minnesota.


34 posted on 12/15/2009 5:59:22 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: Nachum

Senator AssHat takes it to a neighboring state’s Senator.

What a sad joke the Senate has become under Dem management.


35 posted on 12/15/2009 8:54:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: Nachum

It still boggles my mind how much this country has slid when a Dufus like this can get elected. If this country is not turned around in the next two election cycles, I have some very grave concerns!


36 posted on 12/15/2009 9:16:18 AM PST by longhorn too
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To: SierraWasp
I always thought it was..."Never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man!"

I think you have the original quote correct.

I would never recommend that anyone bother to get into an argument with Franken. He disgusts me!

37 posted on 12/15/2009 1:59:28 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Nachum

FU, Franken, you fat b@stard.

I would love the opportunity to just punch you right square in your fat nose.


38 posted on 12/15/2009 2:02:49 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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To: Nachum

Al Gore and all the other democrats are entitled to their own facts.


39 posted on 12/15/2009 2:09:07 PM PST by Terry Mross (It's not racist if it's true.)
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To: mort56

Just how dumb are the people in Minn?

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
J “The Body” Ventura Gov

Need I say more?


40 posted on 12/15/2009 2:12:06 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98 )VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT)
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To: Nachum
Booming? I always thought his voice was nasal and droning.

Little f*cker needs a muzzle.

41 posted on 12/15/2009 2:24:01 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: mort56
Even accounting for ACORN's bought and paid for SoC in Mark Ritchie, too many idiots up here.

It's the cold weather. If kids don't listen to their parents, they go outside without a hat on in January and freeze their frontal lobes. Ice crystal lobotomy. Instant liberal.

42 posted on 12/15/2009 2:25:47 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Did John Thune reply to him?


43 posted on 12/15/2009 2:28:36 PM PST by onyx
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To: Nachum
Liberals should really ‘feel’ proud to have Al Franken as a leader in their midst.
44 posted on 12/15/2009 2:30:22 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Armedanddangerous; TigersEye

I’ve always heard it was Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, D-NY.


45 posted on 12/15/2009 2:34:02 PM PST by tropical
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To: onyx

Yep, they almost come to fist-a-cuffs.


46 posted on 12/15/2009 3:04:31 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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