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Aussie scientists find coconut-carrying octopus (first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate?)
AP on Yahoo ^
| 12/15/09
| Kristen Gelineau - ap
Posted on 12/15/2009 9:07:43 AM PST by NormsRevenge
SYDNEY Australian scientists have discovered an octopus in Indonesia that collects coconut shells for shelter unusually sophisticated behavior that the researchers believe is the first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate animal.
The scientists filmed the veined octopus, Amphioctopus marginatus, selecting halved coconut shells from the sea floor, emptying them out, carrying them under their bodies up to 65 feet (20 meters), and assembling two shells together to make a spherical hiding spot.
Julian Finn and Mark Norman of Museum Victoria in Melbourne observed the odd activity in four of the creatures during a series of dive trips to North Sulawesi and Bali in Indonesia between 1998 and 2008. Their findings were published Tuesday in the journal Current Biology.
"I was gobsmacked," said Finn, a research biologist at the museum who specializes in cephalopods. "I mean, I've seen a lot of octopuses hiding in shells, but I've never seen one that grabs it up and jogs across the sea floor. I was trying hard not to laugh."
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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aussie; coconut; octopus; scientists

Veined Octopus in coconut shell shelter
Image: Roger Steene
Source: Courtesy of Current Biology
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:09:24 AM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
To: NormsRevenge
first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate? Not really. I've seen Mike Steele use a fork before.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:09:27 AM PST
by
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
(Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
To: NormsRevenge
| the first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate animal. No way. Somewhere around here I have a picture of Trent Lott with a pair of pliers.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:09:53 AM PST
by
Nick Danger
(Free cheese is found only in mousetraps)
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:09:58 AM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
To: NormsRevenge
I, for one, welcome our new octopi overlords.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:10:08 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: NormsRevenge
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:12:14 AM PST
by
montyspython
("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
To: NormsRevenge
Ok they are relatives of Snails. What is so unusual about this behavour.
Someone happened to film them doing what comes natural and all of a sudden they are on the level of HUMANS.
UH HUH
Cool video BTW.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:13:33 AM PST
by
Marty62
(former Marty60)
To: NormsRevenge
Was the coconut first carried by a swallow?
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:14:14 AM PST
by
Hoodat
(For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
To: NormsRevenge
first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate?
Actually Not. I once saw a grasshopper using a piece of grass as a toothpick.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:14:36 AM PST
by
MNDude
(The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
To: NormsRevenge
Biology class was a LOOONNNG time ago, but aren’t hermit crabs invertebrates? Does it mean more that it’s a coconut shell rather than a seashell?
It’s still a cute video.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:17:15 AM PST
by
nina0113
To: NormsRevenge
I still don’t want one operating on me.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:17:36 AM PST
by
Oratam
To: Nick Danger
Somewhere around here I have a picture of Trent Lott with a pair of pliers. LOL. I think I've seen him around various tools......
Like McCain and Steele.
To: MNDude
Anyone who watched the Undersea World of Jacques Coustaeu could tell you that an Octopus will use any “container” for protection.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:18:54 AM PST
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: NormsRevenge
>first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate?) Not true.... I've seen Democrats taking an axe to the Constitution on many occasions.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:22:45 AM PST
by
NewJerseyJoe
(Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
To: Hoodat
Was the coconut first carried by a swallow?I expect it grasped it by the husk.....
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:27:45 AM PST
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
To: NormsRevenge
I’m not too impressed. Ping me when they find an octopus using a lathe.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:34:34 AM PST
by
TexasRepublic
(Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
To: NormsRevenge
unusually sophisticated behavior that the researchers believe is the first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate animalI guess they forgot all about hermit crabs. They "borrow" used shells (and anything that looks like a shell to them) all the time and make portable "homes" out of them.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:35:44 AM PST
by
capt. norm
(Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:37:03 AM PST
by
Vaquero
(BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
To: NormsRevenge
What are coconut shells doing on the ocean floor?
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:39:37 AM PST
by
Allegra
(It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
To: NormsRevenge
Octopi collect a lot of things. They're very sneaky.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:44:56 AM PST
by
paulycy
(Demand Constitutionality.)
To: Erik Latranyi
"I expect it grasped it by the husk....." It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound coconut.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:45:21 AM PST
by
Cyberrat
(Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
To: nina0113
Does it mean more that its a coconut shell rather than a seashell? The octopus didn't just pick up a shell and use it, it built a shelter!
To: Hoodat
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:49:19 AM PST
by
Traveler59
(Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
To: montyspython
What's the velocity of a coconut laden octopus?
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:49:40 AM PST
by
avg_freeper
(Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
To: Traveler59
"African or European?" Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow, that's my point.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:52:17 AM PST
by
Cyberrat
(Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
To: Allegra
Pining for the fjords, no doubt. . .
(evil grin)
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:53:33 AM PST
by
Salgak
(Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
To: poindexter
I didn’t see any building going on. I saw an octopus pick up both halves of a coconut shell and crawl inside. Still very cute, but not really a big deal.
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posted on
12/15/2009 9:55:25 AM PST
by
nina0113
To: Allegra
What are coconut shells doing on the ocean floor?They like to mate underwater.
To: NormsRevenge
Quick, get these things word processors. Maybe they can write a better health care bill.
To: paulycy; NormsRevenge; Allegra; Salamander; Markos33; Slings and Arrows; All
Hardly the first example of tool use by invertebrates .....
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:02:42 AM PST
by
shibumi
(" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
To: NormsRevenge
Yum! Octopus with coconut in black bean sauce!
To: shibumi
Most of the Bikini Bottom phenomena have been under-reported in the literature.
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:04:36 AM PST
by
paulycy
(Demand Constitutionality.)
To: NormsRevenge
Octopi are pretty clever.
I’ve seen videos of them figuring out how to get out of an enclosure, getting to fish that were placed in clear containers underwater.
Fascinating animals.
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:06:42 AM PST
by
Vinnie
(You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
To: shibumi
Pfffft.

Ray guns.
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:09:38 AM PST
by
Salamander
(I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.....)
To: NormsRevenge
I just saw this on Korean TV today. He scoots along in his coconut shellmobile and carries the hood (top half of the coconut) in front of him as he goes. Imagine a kid in a toy car, scooting himself along with his feet.
To: nina0113
No Hermit Crabs are Decapod Crustaceans, Arthropod's, they have exoskeletons.
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:15:28 AM PST
by
JimC214
To: Cyberrat
"I expect it grasped it by the husk....."
"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound coconut."
Maybe it had a wheelbarrow.
To: NormsRevenge
They’re looking for Spongebob! They want the recipe for the Krabby Patties...
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:20:36 AM PST
by
MissEdie
(America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
To: JimC214
I know they have exoskeletons (basically they’re sea spiders) but lacking a backbone they are invertebrates. I’m Googling for that old Biology tree diagram from junior high but haven’t found it yet. Everything ELSE is on the internet, so it’s just a matter of time till I find it.
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:24:09 AM PST
by
nina0113
To: paulycy
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:34:10 AM PST
by
Slings and Arrows
("The solution to every ill is a cat." --TheOldLady)
To: shibumi
Yeah... And he lives in a coconut shell, too... Er, I mean, he lives in a pineapple... Same difference...
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posted on
12/15/2009 10:53:13 AM PST
by
Zeppo
("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
To: NormsRevenge
It went into a coconut shell cause there wasn’t a beer can nearby. Now, had he gone onto land, shimmied up a palm tree and picked out a coconut to his wife’s liking, hollowed it out and then took it back into the sea with him, THEN I’d be impressed! Heck several years back while snorkeling in the Bahamas I saw one hiding in a cylinder in an old engine block. No one suggested he had driven there.
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posted on
12/15/2009 11:38:42 AM PST
by
762X51
To: avg_freeper
2 knots.... I’m guesstimating of course considering I do not know the ...... AAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
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posted on
12/15/2009 1:06:42 PM PST
by
montyspython
("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
To: MNDude
Sitting on a leaf with it’s legs crossed, starring at the moon.
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posted on
12/15/2009 1:21:02 PM PST
by
tillacum
To: capt. norm
Paging Tom Hanks. “Wilson” has been found!
To: Allegra
Not much really, just kind of laying there.
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posted on
12/15/2009 4:52:14 PM PST
by
valkyry1
To: NormsRevenge
Amphioctopus marginatus, selecting halved coconut shells from the sea floor, emptying them out, carrying them under their bodies up to 65 feet (20 meters), and assembling two shells together to make a spherical hiding spot. Soon a Barney Frantopus will emerge who will convince other octopi if they vote for him, they can get a coconut shell house without working at all.
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