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Soot warming 'maybe bigger than greenhouse gases' - NASA
The Register (UK) ^ | 15th December 2009 12:16 GMT | Lewis Page

Posted on 12/15/2009 9:56:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Forget Copenhagen CO2 cuts, tune your diesel properly

Researchers from NASA's Goddard Space Flight Centre, also the home of famous carbopocalypse doom-prophet James Hansen, have repeated earlier assertions that atmospheric soot may be as important as greenhouse gases in driving global warming.

This could be good news for humanity, as atmospheric soot levels would be much easier to reduce. Filtering soot out of exhausts from diesel engines and coal burners is simple compared to removing and sequestering CO2, and as an added benefit the effects would be rapid: soot doesn't persist in the atmosphere for long periods the way greenhouse gases do, as it is washed out by rain or snow. However, many environmental campaigners would resist the idea of soot taking centre stage, fearing that this could lead to a reduced emphasis on greenhouse-gas emissions reductions.

Himalayan glaciers feed many of the great rivers of southern Asia. Credit: NASA

Ice running off the gutters of the 'roof of the world'.

Earlier investigations including the effect of soot had focused on the Arctic, where Goddard scientists have previously suggested that "the impact of aerosols is just as strong as that of the greenhouse gases". Aerosols include soot, which tends to heat the atmosphere, plus sulphates and others which cool it. Unfortunately sulphates also cause acid rain, and clean-air regs in the US and Europe have seen them massively reduced - and the Arctic warm up.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerosols; climatechange; desperation; globalwarming; hazardofthemonth; soot
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1 posted on 12/15/2009 9:56:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Absolute horsehockeystick! Soot is an aerosol which BLOCKS sunlight and contributes to COOLING. The Climate Cretins are getting too hasty while circling the wagons.


2 posted on 12/15/2009 9:59:25 PM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Plan B.


3 posted on 12/15/2009 9:59:54 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Goodness, they’re dredging up non-existent acid rain once again? These people really do believe they’re the masters of the universe.


4 posted on 12/15/2009 10:00:03 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m old enough to remember the last computer-model-generated scare. In the 1970’s soot was supposed to trigger an ice-age.


5 posted on 12/15/2009 10:00:28 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not that tuning your engine properly, whether diesel or gasoline, isn’t a good, frugal thing to do.


6 posted on 12/15/2009 10:01:26 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; IrishCatholic; Darnright; Entrepreneur; livius; DollyCali; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 12/15/2009 10:03:29 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: rfp1234
If I recall correctly, I've read a few times that the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo cooled the earth by about half a degree celsius. Volcanic ash is a lot like industrial soot so one would think that industrial soot would also cool the earth by blocking sunlight. That's the explanation I've read for the cooling caused by Mt Pinatubo's eruption. NASA seems to be a bit obsessed with global warming theory. GW theory may be a big source of funding and jobs at NASA.
8 posted on 12/15/2009 10:06:13 PM PST by your local physicist (He was kicked out of a meeting at the law firm of Thief Cheat Liar Scoundrel & Crook.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ANOTHER DISASTER DU JOUR, SKY IS FALLING YADA YADA YADA....

I’M SURE AL GORE WILL BE COMING OUT WITH A NEW MOVIE ABOUT HOW AWFUL THIS IS BUT IF WE SEND HIM A FEW BILLION DOLLARS HE WILL VACUUM UP ALL THE SOOT HIMSELF.


9 posted on 12/15/2009 10:09:48 PM PST by seawolf101
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A recent scientific study by the Center for Study of the Obvious has concluded that Liberalism is the cause of Global Warming


10 posted on 12/15/2009 10:10:47 PM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"However, many environmental campaigners would resist the idea of soot taking centre stage, fearing that this could lead to a reduced emphasis on greenhouse-gas emissions reductions reduction in the loot they were planning on raking in.
11 posted on 12/15/2009 10:13:11 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: rfp1234

Notice the recurring pattern of attacking carbon based energy sources. The socialists are determined to seize control of energy resources to control the population.


12 posted on 12/15/2009 10:13:34 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Because it is impossible that only four (CO2) out of 10,000 atoms/molecules in the atmosphere could cause climate change to any significant, the Global Warming Cult will have to come up with another scapegoat.


13 posted on 12/15/2009 10:15:33 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: seawolf101
Meanwhile the forces of nature apparently didn't get the memo about global warming. It's chilly in the American heartland tonight, with the temperatures in Omaha and Chicago down to single digit numbers.

US: Current Temperatures

14 posted on 12/15/2009 10:17:13 PM PST by your local physicist (He was kicked out of a meeting at the law firm of Thief Cheat Liar Scoundrel & Crook.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Man, they are desperate. Next, it will be chewing gum. Then it will be pink flowers. Then it will be some other cock-and-bull yarn about the detrimental effects of sweeping your house. They’re pathetic.


15 posted on 12/15/2009 10:18:10 PM PST by redhead (Redhead: That's me: Shovel ready, with the bullseye already on my back.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A nuclear war was supposed to throw up smoke and dust into the atmosphere which would cool the Earth, and this theoriy was called Nuclear Winter. What’s the difference?


16 posted on 12/15/2009 10:20:01 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: The_Reader_David

And don’t forget to inflate your tires properly, too!


17 posted on 12/15/2009 10:25:07 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DennisR
Yes, the socialist bureaucrats are determined to find a reason to regulate the driving of motor vehicles by all citizens. If they can't convince the legislators that CO2 is evil then they'll try again with diesel soot, trace amounts of unburned hydrocarbons, or something else. Government regulators in the liberal Northwest are already experimenting with GPS transmitters in cars that transmit the current location and all mileage driven by individual cars. The socialist regulators are grimly determined to make sure "you will be assimilated."

(If they try to put a GPS device in my SUV I will find that device and break it with a spilled beer within 24 hours.)

18 posted on 12/15/2009 10:25:39 PM PST by your local physicist (He was kicked out of a meeting at the law firm of Thief Cheat Liar Scoundrel & Crook.)
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To: dead
That's the way I read it.

Maybe Hansen is behind this?

19 posted on 12/15/2009 10:29:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: FromLori; NormsRevenge; Fred Nerks; Marine_Uncle

fyi


20 posted on 12/15/2009 10:33:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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