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Guns and suicide: International perspective
Austin Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 15 December, 2009 | Howard Nemerov

Posted on 12/16/2009 3:52:04 AM PST by marktwain

Gun control proponents often claim that suicide rates are driven by firearms availability. For example, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence promotes the “guns cause suicide” hypothesis. They note that nearly 17,000 people kill themselves with firearms each year, concluding:

Without stronger, sensible gun laws, thousands upon thousands of people will continue to die and be injured needlessly each year. The Brady Campaign fights for sensible gun laws to protect you, your family, and your community.

If guns cause suicide, international organizations must have some data proving this claim. Or do they?

The United Nations (UN) recently reaffirmed its commitment to global civilian disarmament, which began in the mid-1990s, as a way of ensuring worldwide peace and prosperity:

[T]he international community is more than ever aware of the importance of such practical disarmament measures, especially with regard to the growing problems arising from the excessive accumulation and uncontrolled spread of small arms and light weapons, including their ammunition, which pose a threat to peace and security and reduce the prospects for economic development in many regions, particularly in post-conflict situations…

The Graduate Institute of International Studies in Geneva, Switzerland publishes an annual report entitled Small Arms Survey. This organization doesn’t support civilian firearms ownership. Their Mission page states: The proliferation of small arms and light weapons represents a grave threat to human security. The unchecked spread of these weapons has exacerbated inter- and intra-state conflicts, contributed to human rights violations, undermined political and economic development, destabilized communities, and devastated the lives of millions of people.

The 2003-2005 and 2007 editions of Small Arms Survey contain estimates of civilian firearms ownership rates in selected countries. The UN’s World Health Organization (WHO) tabulates suicide rates by country (suicides per 100,000 population).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; examiner; guns; international; suicide
Suicide rates are independent of the availability of guns. It is funny that the anti-freedom types claim that we must get rid of guns to prevent suicide, but often the same people are just fine with doctor assisted suicide!
1 posted on 12/16/2009 3:52:07 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Hypocrisy is the hallmark of the left.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 4:08:43 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: marktwain

can we get one that maybe compares suicide rate vs how socialistic a gov’t is?


3 posted on 12/16/2009 4:09:42 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: marktwain

Have the gun control fascists ever stopped to realize that the rising suicide rate may be a direct result of their fellow liberals enslaving and destroying the country?


4 posted on 12/16/2009 4:23:30 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: marktwain

They note that nearly 17,000 people kill themselves with firearms each year


So? as if a single suicide could have been prevented if the people would not had guns. If you really want to kill yourself you will find a way...


5 posted on 12/16/2009 4:27:38 AM PST by darkside321
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To: marktwain

Yeah and how many do it with somethong other than a gun?


6 posted on 12/16/2009 4:44:02 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: DarthVader

I’ll take it a step further...

It is the liberal statists/socialist “assumptive reasoning” that is based soley upon emotions and non-verifiable data that is the total basis for their continued attempt to remain justified in their existance as an individuals greatest threat to their freedom, and moral right to self-defense...

Thats why when push comes to shove, at least in this country...We’ll still have the guns, no matter what they think they’ll be able to do about it...


7 posted on 12/16/2009 5:05:54 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Ratman83

Well...There’s car exhaust, cliffs, buildings, rush hour traffic, razor blades, and the inevitable death panels of national healthcare reform efforts around the globe...

Those are just a few that come to mind...;-)

If you do not have the guts to look a speeding train right in the eye as it runs you over and turns you into a pile of goo...Then guns are just to dirn easy to end your life...I’d tell someone your to much of a weak-azz to use a gun...

But then again I may be complicite and inciting someone to do something as drastic as taking their own life...

As opposed to doing what I could to actually guilt someone into actually saving their lives and take on the challenges to live ass best you could in the face of adversity...

Because at the end of the day, I would think you’d enjoy life better knowing you got through another one...

Big time thumbs up to that outcome!!!

These gun-controllers do nothing to save lives at all...And that is the irony of it...

For all of us who carry a firearm for lawful self-defensive purposes, I believe we value life more in the ability to take a life to save one or more, than those who want to take away that ability and just let you die at the hands of those who do not respect life in the first place...

Whoa! Thats deep...I need to write that one down before I forget it...;-)


8 posted on 12/16/2009 5:14:39 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Ratman83
2006, United States
Suicide Non-Firearm Deaths and Rates per 100,000
All Races, Both Sexes, All Ages
ICD-10 Codes: X60-X71, X75-X84,Y87.0, *U03
 
 

Number of
Deaths
Population Crude
Rate
Age-Adjusted
Rate**
16,417 298,362,973 5.50 5.43

CDC Non-Firearm Suicide 2006

2006, United States
Suicide Firearm Deaths and Rates per 100,000
All Races, Both Sexes, All Ages
ICD-10 Codes: X72-X74
 
 

Number of
Deaths
Population Crude
Rate
Age-Adjusted
Rate**
16,883 298,362,973 5.66 5.54

CDC Firearm Suicide 2006

9 posted on 12/16/2009 5:26:38 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

So even if guns were eliminated then many poeple still suicde. This is as allways about power, not safety.


10 posted on 12/16/2009 5:32:46 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Using their statistics, I find that GUNS SAVE LIVES. There were fewer deaths by firearms than the other methods combined. ;^)


11 posted on 12/16/2009 5:34:01 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Ratman83

BINGO!!!


12 posted on 12/16/2009 5:34:58 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: marktwain
Gun Facts


13 posted on 12/16/2009 5:46:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: marktwain
Don't liberals treat suicide like abortion? A personal choice between someone and their own body?
14 posted on 12/16/2009 6:38:31 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Step 1 - Identify Obama/Dem/RINO supporters. Step 2 - Punish them economically.)
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“Don’t liberals treat suicide like abortion? A personal choice between someone and their own body?”

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Don’t you be clouding the issue with facts.

Even if guns further their non-sensible agenda, they cannot endorse them. They need guns taken away from the ones they want to subjugate. Any excuse will serve, as you see the masses that eat their propaganda up are plenty willing to continue to vote our freedom away.


15 posted on 12/16/2009 7:05:15 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: stevie_d_64

Very true.


16 posted on 12/16/2009 7:15:59 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Niteranger68

A person of working age is a useful asset to the leftist agenda. You can’t take your own life when you body belongs to dear leader.


17 posted on 12/18/2009 2:50:03 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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