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AVATAR (2009)** (out of four)(Dances with Thundersmurfs?)
http://filmfreakcentral.net/ ^ | Dec 2009 | Walter Chaw

Posted on 12/16/2009 5:56:58 AM PST by Maelstorm

A morally, historically, socially, and politically childish amalgam of Pocahontas and Ferngully: The Last Rainforest, Avatar finds James Cameron--still the Cameron of Titanic (or the uncomfortably simpering T2, if we're honest with ourselves) rather than the Cameron of Aliens and The Terminator--trying his hand at being Kevin Costner: powerful, dim, and only relevant for a tiny window of time he doesn't realize has already closed. The more simple-minded liberal proselytizing he perpetrates like Avatar, the farther away he gets from the B-movie muscularity that indicated his early career. It's a bad thing, believe me, that the first set of movies people think to compare your latest to is first George Lucas' ridiculous prequel trilogy--then Dances with Wolves.

Like Lucas, Cameron's made the fatal error of writing his own screenplay, larding it with gut-busters like "Pandora will make Hell seem like R&R!" whilst recasting Native Americans as giant blue cats and Sam Worthington as the Next Big Has-Been (see: Cameron's failed attempts to shove Michael Biehn down America's throat). Cameron's long-awaited reunion with Sigourney Weaver isn't another Alien flick, but this thing with Ripley recast as do-gooder scientist Dr. Grace, battling the bellicose military over the soul of the Noble Savages inhabiting a verdant planet. Man is here, see, to harvest priceless ore "Unobtainium" (seriously--if you're that committed to being retarded, why not call it "Cantgetitanywhereium," or "Itsrareium"?) with a band of mercenaries at the beck of Cameron's evil, monolithic Company, led by pressed-shirt Parker Selfridge (Giovanni Ribisi). We're not far now from naming someone "General Grievous," are we? Dr. Grace has developed the titular Avatar program, which breeds giant blue cats that are then electronically linked with human drivers--the better to freak out learn the ways of the natives and win their hearts and minds. A shame that jarhead Jake (Worthington) falls in love with giant blue cat Neytiri (Zoe Saldana, doing voice and MoCap duties), fucks her under the Spirit Tree upon becoming a member of The People (the Na'vi), and switches sides to repulse the human spoilers after taming a dragon, fulfilling a primitive prophecy, and earning the Indians' fealty. Stupid Indians.

Of course the military, led by muscle-bound Duke Nukem manqué Col. Quaritch (Stephen Lang), doesn't understand the beauty of the Na'vi culture nor the bumfuddling sanctity of nature, and of course Selfridge doesn't care that the Na'vi's village is housed in a mystical tree that's growing over the largest concentration of unobtainium in the known universe. What you should care about is that Cameron has essentially retold the Pocahontas story with giant blue cats subbing for the Powhatan and every single Native American stereotype subbing for taste. (Jar Jar isn't speaking Jamaican! He's an alien!) The Na'vi, it seems, are literally in tune with their Mother Earth, use little feelers in their tails to again literally commune with their horses, and engage in brutal spiritual rituals in order to Man Called Horse whitey into their inner ranks. Fans of oaters will also be pleased to check off: the presence of a Magua-type character who doesn't like Jake very much because paleface is making eyes at his squaw; the noble chief who takes shrapnel; the witch woman making witchy pronouncements; and the moment when Captain Smith makes good by conquering a savage superstition and henceforth rallies his clan with the horse-cats of the plains and the fierce water-cats of the north. Because this is a Cameron joint, you also have a tough-talking Latina and a bunch of scary-looking mechas; and because this is a late-Cameron joint, there's unfortunately a lot of stuff about how humans destroyed their own planet out of greed, how the misguided men must fight "terror with terror" by employing "some kind of shock and awe," and how naïve an intellectually-limited billionaire filmmaker sounds when trying to force himself into some kind of relevant conversation.

The real hell of this 160-minute marathon is that it's shot well, edited brilliantly, paced with heat and wisdom, and yet undone at its end by its reliance on the same old shit--on stale outrage (Bush Jr. lied to get us into Iraq? Well, gorsh!) and tired paternalism. This exact thing was done better, and with infinitely more scabrous self-awareness, in an episode of "Futurama" called "Where the Buggalo Roam"--a sad thing to say about a film that took ten years and a medium-sized country's GDP to bring to fruition. Even the special effects, though, have the scrolling, smooth quality of a Pixar feature without the commensurate command of storytelling and almost mystical contact with the zeitgeist. An extended sequence of Jake exploring this wonderland, Pandora, has him tripping luminescent moss in a deeply sad--and probably unintentional--homage to Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" video, while elsewhere, Cameron inserts the (literal) deus ex machina in floating forest spirits plucked from Miyazaki's cutting-room floor. It isn't much better than the faux-wow of Ferngully, clarifying the truism that cutting-edge F/X, if not married to a thematically-strong, well-written framework, result in ferociously-defended pieces of camp-classic drag bullshit like Tron and Willow.

Worth mentioning is that Avatar, along with end-of-aughts brothers like Precious, The Blind Side, Invictus, Transformers 2, et al, demonstrates that the United States remains incapable of dealing directly with race in its mainstream, prestige entertainments in any way save for the obvious, pandering, sometimes condescending, sometimes just bigoted, always ignorant, and, it almost goes without saying, tediously offensive. In defense of Avatar, it's probably the best Cameron can do with regards to discussing the Native American genocide--that is, replicate the Trail of Tears as space cats evicted from their burning tree and showcase them chanting to the Great Mother to save the soul of the white man, then hijack history to show the beset-upon, oil-rich nation triumphing over its evil exploiters. It's The New World, but the Powhatan succeed in repulsing the Colonists. It's so confused about itself, with its Princess Mononoke rebellion of Nature subtext married to its wampum-for-Manhattan outrage, that despicable Colonel Quaritch snarls at Jake at one point, "What does it feel like to betray your own...race?" It's pitiable. At least Avatar, while displaying the same racial insensitivity and tin ear as Titanic, is unlikely to pollute the culture to the same extent or for anywhere near the same duration as Titanic. Watch the recent "South Park" satire of it ("Dances with Smurfs"), created without first-hand knowledge of the film at a miniscule fraction of its budget, to see the poor, benighted thing punched square in the babymaker.-Walter Chaw


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1 posted on 12/16/2009 5:57:00 AM PST by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

LOL Walter - don’t hold back


2 posted on 12/16/2009 6:02:56 AM PST by RightGeek (Bill Ayers for Obama's head of the secret police)
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To: Maelstorm

Dances with smurfs on SouthPark

http://video.mail.ru/mail/mcgregor-ne/1218/4629.html


3 posted on 12/16/2009 6:04:03 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776)
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To: Maelstorm

Dr. Grace= Good Guy
Parker Selfridge= Bad Guy
“General Greivance” LMAO!

And the best of all;
“Unobtainium-seriously—if you’re that committed to being retarded, why not call it “Cantgetitanywhereium,” or “Itsrareium”


4 posted on 12/16/2009 6:04:28 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Maelstorm

I don’t patronize Hollywood movies or TV. Never. Period. Any freeper that does is a liberal enabler.


5 posted on 12/16/2009 6:05:29 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: autumnraine

LOL


6 posted on 12/16/2009 6:06:43 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776)
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To: Maelstorm

“Dances with Thundersmurfs”

LOL. Good movie or bad you got to love the alternate title.


7 posted on 12/16/2009 6:07:01 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Maelstorm

That was exactly my thought when I saw the previews.................


8 posted on 12/16/2009 6:09:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Obama - The first ever elected lame duck..............)
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To: qwertypie

Well I’m torn on that one. I think if we shut ourselves out of the market we will guarantee movies like the Passion of Christ, Fireproof, Facing the Giants, or even movies like The Lord of the Rings and the Lion the Witch and the wardrobe. Hollywood even though it pretends to be above capitalism thrives on it.


9 posted on 12/16/2009 6:10:31 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776)
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To: Maelstorm

One thing I don’t understand is how many people on this site just love to root for a movie to do badly. They want this to bomb because Hollywood is evil. I don’t have a dog in the fight either way. I probably won’t see this movie beacuse I rarely see movies and have to go to ones my wife agrees to see on the rare occasion we have a night away from the kids.

SF/Fantasy is not her cup of tea, although we did see The Lord of the Rings trilogy and she enjoyed that. My point is, who cares if this movie does well? How would that effect your life? Isn’t a movie making a billion dollars good for our struggling economy?

The same can be said when Mel made Passion of the Christ. All kinds of left wing loons wanted that movie to tank. Of course it made a ton of money. Isn’t that a good thing?

So see this if you want, or don’t. I don’t understand tearing the guy down. Cameron took the risk to make this and that’s what Capitalism is all about.


10 posted on 12/16/2009 6:11:26 AM PST by strider44
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To: Maelstorm

WTF??

“...it’s probably the best Cameron can do with regards to discussing the Native American genocide...”

(ahem)

IT’S A FRACKIN’ FANTASY MOVIE, WALTER!!

Honestly, what the hell does this guy expect? It’s obvious he hates James Cameron on a very primal level, and it’s hard to believe that anyone can get this worked up about a frickin’ movie.

He probably bitched about “Ironman” when it came out because the colors clashed on his armor.

I doubt he approved of the Hobbit’s foot-hair in any of the LOTR movies.

He probably just hated the fact that Bruce Willis wore a “wife beater” t-shirt in “Die Hard”.

My wife is taking Friday off so we can catch the matinee of “Avatar”. It promises to be very entertaining, and we do not intend to try and view it seeking solutions to the US Economy, the Iran v Israel conflict, the Zimbabwe financial crisis, or how to free Roman Polanski...

sheesh!


11 posted on 12/16/2009 6:14:06 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: Maelstorm

12 posted on 12/16/2009 6:15:37 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Bean Counter; stephenjohnbanker; FBD; 1776 Reborn
"My wife is taking Friday off so we can catch the matinee of 'Avatar'. It promises to be very entertaining, and we do not intend to try and view it seeking solutions to the US Economy, the Iran v Israel conflict, the Zimbabwe financial crisis, or how to free Roman Polanski..."

LOL!!!!!!!!
Amen.

13 posted on 12/16/2009 6:18:13 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Maelstorm
Hollywood (or wherever they produce them these days), always hammering you over the head with their message:

corporations, military, America, Christians = Bad

"indiginous people," hippies, communists, atheists and Muslims = good

Really really tired of their crap.

Last night's episodes of NCIS and NCIS-LA followed that Muslimes good, Christians bad pattern.

I'll probably borrow a copy of the movie just to see the special effects and simply ignore the messages, but it really is getting old being treated like a five-year-old by a bunch of elitist idiots.
14 posted on 12/16/2009 6:18:26 AM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Bean Counter

I just thought the review was entertaining. lol Enjoy the movie. It did remind me of ferngully. It is unfortunate that so much money was spent on a shallow liberal story line that could have been spent feeding the homeless or paying down the national debt. ;-)


15 posted on 12/16/2009 6:19:27 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776)
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To: Maelstorm
Walter?
No disrespect intended, honest.
You're an insufferable boor.
16 posted on 12/16/2009 6:21:12 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: strider44
I think what people here want to fail is the political and propaganda message movies like this one. In this, other than being more subtle Cameron is not all that different from Michael Moore or Inconvenient Algore.

Personally, if I'm spending my money I prefer to simply be entertained. When "the message" is more important than the entertainment, I enjoy seeing it fail than I do seeing it.

17 posted on 12/16/2009 6:24:37 AM PST by GBA
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To: Maelstorm

Not to be prudish, but you might want to put a language warning next time.


18 posted on 12/16/2009 6:25:51 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Sudetenland

I don’t plan to see it and here are the reasons. If you can’t come up with a better name than the stupid inane one “Avatar” which just happens to also be the name of an anime cartoon then no amount of money can save it. I don’t want to encourage that behavior. This is clearly a throw enough money at it deal. I am a big fan of the first two Aliens Movies but I’ve just not been impressed with a lot of Cameron’s stuff. I didn’t go to the movies to watch Titanic though I did watch it and it was ok. This movie has the feel of a Kevin Costner boondoggle and appears to be just another example of Hollywood self important largess. The worst part is there are so many classic sci-fi/fantasy stories and worlds that deserve to be brought to life and instead we get this crap? I’m sure it is beautifully done but it still doesn’t make it worthwhile.


19 posted on 12/16/2009 6:28:34 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776)
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To: Maelstorm

I ROFLED on the “ThunderSmurfs”!...


20 posted on 12/16/2009 6:31:43 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Maelstorm
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21 posted on 12/16/2009 6:33:03 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Sudetenland
Last night's episodes of NCIS and NCIS-LA followed that Muslimes good, Christians bad pattern.

I was caught offguard by that too. It was pretty pathetic and made for a lousy episode. I'll see Avatar knowing what to expect and enjoy the effects while ignoring the message.

22 posted on 12/16/2009 6:34:07 AM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Maelstorm
Thundersmurfs?

LOL!

There's something about being eye to bellybutton with a 10ft tall woman though...........

23 posted on 12/16/2009 6:36:59 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: autumnraine
And the best of all; “Unobtainium-seriously—if you’re that committed to being retarded, why not call it “Cantgetitanywhereium,” or “Itsrareium”

This begs the question - if the ore is called "Unobtainium," implying that it is unobtainable, then why are we even bothering? If we're going to go to all that effort, at least try to corner the market on Difficulttogettium or something where the challenge will be rewarded.

24 posted on 12/16/2009 6:40:12 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
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To: Landru

Have fun. I hate movie theaters

Can’t smoke

Can’t drink

Too many a holes


25 posted on 12/16/2009 6:48:26 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I know, right?

All that work, just for the unobtainable...


26 posted on 12/16/2009 6:50:13 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Landru

I wasn’t aware it was a girl flick movie. lol


27 posted on 12/16/2009 6:50:21 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: Maelstorm
Since I've seen the South Park version, I guess there's no need to watch Cameron's now.

"Dances with Thundersmurfs" . . . love that title!

28 posted on 12/16/2009 6:50:52 AM PST by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: Maelstorm

Thanks, my god this sounds like another lefty clunker written by a nutter who is so conflicted that he borders on schitzophrenia. Typical libdhimmi plot though, savages wonderful but need white liberal leadership to fully actuallize their wonderfulness, almost the entire plot line of a useless liberal life.


29 posted on 12/16/2009 6:52:46 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: Maelstorm

If you need half a billion worth of special effects to tell a story, then the story isn’t worth telling.


30 posted on 12/16/2009 6:55:59 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Maelstorm

Citing a few exceptions isn’t persuasive. Going weekly (or monthly) to the movies and watching primetime dramas only puts money in the hands of people who are our enemies, not adversaries.


31 posted on 12/16/2009 7:04:34 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: autumnraine
Wasn't 'Unobtanium' used in The Core?
32 posted on 12/16/2009 7:08:19 AM PST by sportutegrl (I was for Sarah Palin before being for Sarah was cool.)
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To: Maelstorm
Sam Worthington as the Next Big Has-Been (see: Cameron's failed attempts to shove Michael Biehn down America's throat).

The problem with Michael Biehn is that he just isn't very good, his best work as Johnny Ringo notwithstanding.

33 posted on 12/16/2009 7:09:11 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Maelstorm
I didn’t go to the movies to watch Titanic though I did watch it and it was ok.

After the first ten minutes, I'm thinking, "Just Sink Already!"

34 posted on 12/16/2009 7:09:46 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: junta
Typical libdhimmi plot though, savages wonderful but need white liberal leadership to fully actuallize their wonderfulness, almost the entire plot line of a useless liberal life.

After years of having their economies undermined by self annointed "Dances with Wolves" types, the Hopi and Navaho tribes have ordered all Greens and Enviros to pack up their 1964 Microbusses and leave their reservations. I wish I could slip a newsreel into the front of Avatar.

35 posted on 12/16/2009 7:12:42 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Crouching Tiger. Hidden fire hydrant.)
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To: junta

I do agree with the story’s primary premise. The Natives own the land and have a right to defend it. If it were just about property rights and defending what is your own rather than just the simpleton idea that “just because we run around in loin cloths makes me right” and “corporations and the military are evil” then it wouldn’t be so bad. However this isn’t a new tack with Cameron nor original.


36 posted on 12/16/2009 7:14:51 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776)
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To: SeaDragon; TheGrimReaper; humblegunner

LOL, this guy doesn’t hold back, but for the love of all that’s holy, “unobtanium”?

What is this The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra with it’s “atmosphereum”.


37 posted on 12/16/2009 7:16:59 AM PST by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker; 1776 Reborn
"Have fun."

That'd be the intent. LOL

"I hate movie theaters...Can’t smoke...Can’t drink"

Depends what'cha want to drink and/or smoke, steph.

"Too many a holes"

No argument from me, there. LOL
However we've found there're still a few smaller theaters around offering matinees. During the week M-Fri they're quiet, while those who are there are always older, more civilized & quiet during the show. As it should be.

Now...is there anything worth the time & money is another issue. LOL
I'd thought IF we see this motion picture it'd be on the big screen for full impact. Like LOTR, Star Bores etc?

1776 said: "I wasn’t aware it was a girl flick movie."

Is it?
Pray-tell. ;^)

38 posted on 12/16/2009 7:18:18 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Maelstorm
This exact thing was done better, and with infinitely more scabrous self-awareness, in an episode of "Futurama" called "Where the Buggalo Roam"--

I loved that episode.

Does anyone else see plot lines from Dune?

39 posted on 12/16/2009 7:21:19 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Maelstorm
I am a big fan of the first two Aliens Movies but I’ve just not been impressed with a lot of Cameron’s stuff.

The first ALIEN was directed by Ridley Scott. It established him as a top director.

Personally, I think Cameron's best was TRUE LIES. The first TERMINATOR was very good too, for straight-up action. But TITANIC? Couldn't sit through the whole thing. Cameron is technically brilliant, but he has all emotional subtlety of a Louisville Slugger.

40 posted on 12/16/2009 7:25:18 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Maelstorm

There’s a Bollywood-produced computer-animated version of the Ramayana due out within a year that I’m really looking forward to. The Hindu mythology has so many epic stories that an advanced studio could do wonders with. I sometimes wonder why Disney can draw from the stories of so many cultures, and the best representative of the Indus valley they can find is Mowgli. They could do amazing things with the origin of Ganesha or, dare I say it, the Ramayana (though the Mahabharata might be more in WETA’s back yard).


41 posted on 12/16/2009 7:28:59 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: BubbaBasher
While the rank and file Muslims are straight forward, the big shots understand our culture far better than we understand theirs. They've made massive investments in entertainment, and get their message across very well.

If anyone saw "Slumdog Millionaire," in one of the sequences, the peaceful Muslims were attacked and murdered by the evil Buddhists. Anyone want to guess what would have happened to the movie if the protagonist had been a Buddhist and his village had been attacked by Muslims?

42 posted on 12/16/2009 7:32:44 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: strider44

I don’t want it to bomb because Hollywood is evil. I want it to bomb because it’s a stupid movie and I want Hollywood to stop thinking insulting the viewer is a good way to make money. Hollywood is a copy cat industry, movies that make money get copied, movies that bomb don’t, so as a movie junky I want the kinds of movies I like to make lots of money and the kinds of movies I hate to bomb miserably.


43 posted on 12/16/2009 7:34:07 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: qwertypie

To each their own, I thought Blindside was a wonderful film and I will see it again... AVATAR isn’t my kind of movie...


44 posted on 12/16/2009 7:36:32 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: qwertypie

We saw the Blind Side last week.

About a Christian, conservative, republican, NRA-member, southern, white family that brings a black teen into their family and brings him out of his hopeless, poverty-stricken, gang-banging, crack-smoking home and help him achieve his potential.

I’m sure that Ms. Bullock choked on some of the lines, but it was a good movie, and I reserve the right to take my family to movies if I choose.


45 posted on 12/16/2009 7:39:53 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: RikaStrom
What is this The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra with it’s “atmosphereum”.

That is for ME to know.
I sleep now.

46 posted on 12/16/2009 7:42:53 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: RightGeek

bump for later.


47 posted on 12/16/2009 7:44:25 AM PST by altura
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To: Maelstorm

I like Willow. Tron, not so much.


48 posted on 12/16/2009 7:46:23 AM PST by ConfusedAndLovingIt
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

***After years of having their economies undermined by self annointed “Dances with Wolves” types, the Hopi and Navaho tribes have ordered all Greens and Enviros to pack up their 1964 Microbusses and leave their reservations.****

Back in 1973-74, when the American Indian Movement (AIM)took over the Wounded Knee area, they were invaded by lots of bearded “helpful” hippies in oposition to the FBI.


49 posted on 12/16/2009 8:06:29 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: ConfusedAndLovingIt
Personally, I would like to see the sequel, some decades later, where a now-united Federal Earth decides to screw this Hopey Changey bullcrap and sends in the Mobile Infantry to get the Dilithium (which is what "unobtanium" actually is, Cameron just can't come out and say he stole the idea from Trek) to fight the Bugs.

"All right, Troopers! We're going to turn this thing into a really beutiful, but poorly written movie! Let's kill some Thundercats!"

50 posted on 12/16/2009 8:09:22 AM PST by section9
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