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CA: State lost 47,000 employers in 2008
OC Register ^ | 12/16/09 | Jan Norman

Posted on 12/16/2009 5:49:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge

One of every six U.S. employers that closed permanently in 2008 was in California, according to the U.S. Small Business Administration using bankruptcy court data.

However, one in nine employers that opened in 2008 was in California. The net result was almost 47,000 fewer companies with employees in California by the end of 2008.

The data are part of the Census Bureau’s Statistical Abstract of the United States 2010.

The state had 45.1% more business “deaths” than “births,” one of the steepest changes. Note that many of the closures were started in other years. In California’s case many of those losses were in the real estate and financial services industries because of the subprime mortgage meltdown and crash of the housing market.

The United States as a whole had 10.5% more business deaths than births.

Other states with huge numbers of employer closures compared to startups in 2008 are:

* Michigan, 55.1% more * Missouri, 41.4% * West Virginia, 38.1% * Rhode Island, 34.7% * Arizona, 33.9%

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008; california; employers; layoffs; lost

1 posted on 12/16/2009 5:49:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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Damn.

Leftist agendas suck the lifeblood out of economies.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 5:50:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

My business left CA in ‘07.
I pulled out of NV this year.
Moving on.


3 posted on 12/16/2009 5:53:09 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Whatever they tax more of results in less of it. How’s that taxing into prosperity workin’ out for the leftist tyrants?


4 posted on 12/16/2009 6:01:32 PM PST by tflabo
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To: elpinta
My business left CA in ‘07.

Mine pulled up stakes in Jan '06 and moved to Texas. If you're moving your business again, you ought to consider relocating here. This state loves business.

5 posted on 12/16/2009 6:05:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How many employees did the State of Kaleephornya gain at the same time?


6 posted on 12/16/2009 6:07:00 PM PST by stboz
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To: NormsRevenge

Textbook example of what happens to the economy when liberals are in charge. November 2010 can’t come soon enough.


7 posted on 12/16/2009 6:07:41 PM PST by Grim (Stop the EPA now.)
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To: Windflier

Yes, I know, considered/considering.
Family and all, status is ‘pending’ but for sure I would love to move to Texas!


8 posted on 12/16/2009 6:11:25 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Nachum; ExTexasRedhead
Ahhhhnold extols the value of green jobs, here we see the hype firsthand:

This is availabe only in cached version for some reason......

Kernel-nomics - big ethanol's inflated job claims

Snips:

Growth Energy, a corn ethanol lobby group, is grossly exaggerating the economic benefits that a higher ethanol blend in the nation’s fuel supply would bring.

The group claims that granting its petition to increase the amount of ethanol blended into gasoline from 10 percent to 15 percent would create an additional 136,101 “green jobs.”

Our analysis shows that only 12,000 to 27,000 jobs would be created at a cost to taxpayers of between $195,000 and $446,000 per job per year for a total cost of $ 5.4 billion per year. Other independent analysts suggest that 38,000 jobs would be created at the cost of $139,000 per job per year.

Growth Energy is calling its petition to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to waive the requirements of the Clean Air Act and allow higher blends of ethanol the “Green Jobs Waiver.”

The groups’ jobs’ claim is based on a March 4, 2009 study. The research done by the Windmill Group is the latest in a string of corn ethanol industry-commissioned studies. In contrast, independent academic economists have shown that the corn ethanol industry’s estimates of new jobs are far larger than any credible analysis produces.

“In short, there are claims to economic outcomes associated with ethanol production that seasoned analysts cannot swallow, but that proponents and politicians will certainly tout as gospel unless confronted with better (or, for the most part, actual) research. The gap between sensible analysis and outright nonsense is huge.”3

Independent analyses show that the Growth Energy job creation estimates are likely 5 to 10 times too high (see Table 1) compared to similar analyses by independent, academic economists.

9 posted on 12/16/2009 6:12:10 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: NormsRevenge
Will the last private employer in California please turn out the lights?

If we still have electricity.

10 posted on 12/16/2009 6:16:11 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Windflier

Here in Texas my home property taxes due decreased by about $300 dollars for 2009 in Dallas County.


11 posted on 12/16/2009 6:18:15 PM PST by tflabo
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To: elpinta
Family and all, status is ‘pending’ but for sure I would love to move to Texas!

Per statistic, you can't do better, anywhere in the country. Texas is the number one destination of choice for corporations who are looking to relocate their businesses within the US.

Check this out:

Texas Texaplex

12 posted on 12/16/2009 6:19:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tflabo

Good for you... wish it was contagious...

:-(


13 posted on 12/16/2009 6:20:15 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: tflabo
Here in Texas my home property taxes due decreased by about $300 dollars for 2009 in Dallas County.

Gotta love Texas. Very cool...

14 posted on 12/16/2009 6:21:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’d consider Texas, but most of the better jobs are not on the coast, and the beaches are filthy (I need to live near salt water, its in my genes).


15 posted on 12/16/2009 6:22:08 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Windflier

Yeah, I know, you certainly don’t have to talk me into it, I am ready, but as is the case with most of us, there are peripheral issues that slow things down.

I just love the ‘Texas Way’ in so many ‘ways.’


16 posted on 12/16/2009 6:22:32 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: elpinta

Not to mention the pride. You don’t see and American flag flying without a Texas flag flying right next to it. Most of my family live in east Texas, now I have to convince my kids to move there, or at least nearer.


17 posted on 12/16/2009 6:24:55 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist

Well, it may get to be a trend.
Just hope Texans can stop/destroy the polluted minds that have invaded other states from doing the same to Texas.


18 posted on 12/16/2009 6:27:43 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: Clemenza
I’d consider Texas, but most of the better jobs are not on the coast, and the beaches are filthy (I need to live near salt water, its in my genes).

I hear you. I'm a native Californian from Monterey. I was born less than a mile from the beach, and have rarely lived more than an hour away from the coast.

But, in the last twenty-five years of my life, I'll bet I never went down there more than once or twice a year. Conditions in California got so bad, that even the draw of my family roots, and the wondrous scenic beauty of the place couldn't hold me there any longer.

Priorities, ya know?

19 posted on 12/16/2009 6:31:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MamaDearest
"Unless the health care bill is passed, the Federal government will go bankrupt."

Barack Obama

"The gap between sensible analysis and outright nonsense is huge."

20 posted on 12/16/2009 6:35:06 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: elpinta
Yeah, I know, you certainly don’t have to talk me into it, I am ready, but as is the case with most of us, there are peripheral issues that slow things down.

Yep. I know all about peripheral issues. It took my wife and I about six months to settle up our affairs before we could move. There were also a few family members that needed handling, but that wasn't too difficult.

If you've never been here, I suggest you take a trip down to have a look around before committing. We did that, and were literally blown away by the cultural differences, the cleanliness of the place, and the obvious signs of a healthy economy.

21 posted on 12/16/2009 6:43:12 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Have taken some business trips there, no question about the mind set, I am ready.


22 posted on 12/16/2009 6:45:28 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: elpinta
Just hope Texans can stop/destroy the polluted minds that have invaded other states from doing the same to Texas.

Tell you what...I've never met so many conservative refugees, as I have here. They hail from every state in the union.

Conservatives are bailing from all over the nation, and coming here.

23 posted on 12/16/2009 6:45:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

My ‘moving’ account keeps on growing, very pleased with what I hear!


24 posted on 12/16/2009 6:46:59 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: Windflier; Nachum; ExTexasRedhead; JustPiper
"The gap between sensible analysis and outright nonsense is huge."

With this healthcare bill, cap and trade and amnesty as #1 priorities for Obama, Pelosi and Reed, the flashing red light of emergency for each is once again called upon to frighten us into submission. Squandering Stimulus and TARP funds (pork-pork-pork) has made us wary of anything and everything democrats assert to be pushing us over the edge.

In light of our nation's economic plight, millions of Americans jobless and companies (large and small) are more and more fearful each coming day of what this administration plans to inflict upon them.

There is a chasm miles deep between what this administration wants to shove down our throats and what Americans see as absolutely the wrong priorities and, at that, priorities that have no business being on the agenda whatsoever.

25 posted on 12/16/2009 6:50:08 PM PST by MamaDearest (How many times can an administration call "wolf" and expect a compliant concerned citizenry?)
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To: Clemenza
(I need to live near salt water, its in my genes).

What are you, some kind of sea urchin? Kelp plant? Maybe the human world has something a little more meaningful to offer.

26 posted on 12/16/2009 7:02:30 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MamaDearest
There is a chasm miles deep between what this administration wants to shove down our throats and what Americans see as absolutely the wrong priorities and, at that, priorities that have no business being on the agenda whatsoever.

Your vision is crystal clear on this. That is a statement that sums up the current political climate in a nutshell.

People have been screaming that "Washington is tone-deaf", nearly since the inauguration, and polls have consistently shown that Congress and the Precedent are totally out of step with what we really need and want from them.

Worse still, is that they are pursuing a broad and radical agenda that bears little resemblance to anything that mainstream America agrees with, or that is in alignment with our traditions, our Constitution, our economic best interests, foreign policy norms, or even common horse sense.

Readers of FR, and others who are well-informed, have had their senses nearly destroyed by the constant barrage of outrages coming out of Washington for the last ten months. It's almost more than any reasonably well-balanced person can handle. Is it any wonder that the tea parties erupted, and that they've resulted in a patriotic movement the like of which hasn't been seen since revolutionary times?

Just today, we read that the "Tea Party" now polls more favorably than either the Democrat or the Republican parties.

This is astonishing, and shows just how far the current administration and congress have pushed us to the brink.

Something has to give, and I hope like hell that our reps in Washington realize this before it's too late. They will stop this onslaught against the clear will of The People, or there will be revolution. There's no way to sugar coat the reality of that.

27 posted on 12/16/2009 7:18:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yup, a strong A-


28 posted on 12/16/2009 8:01:13 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: NormsRevenge
Missouri, 41.4%

Surprised to see this as Missouri ranked well on the economic freedom index. Or so I thought.

29 posted on 12/16/2009 8:08:17 PM PST by listenhillary (I believe AGW is real now. It was caused by scientists and greenies LYING!)
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To: Windflier
This is astonishing, and shows just how far the current administration and congress have pushed us to the brink.

Something has to give, and I hope like hell that our reps in Washington realize this before it's too late. They will stop this onslaught against the clear will of The People, or there will be revolution. There's no way to sugar coat the reality of that.

The brink you mentioned has just about been reached. What our representativs have done to us in the past year is the talk of Christmas parties and neighborhood get-togethers. There is a unification of people unlike anything I've ever seen before in all my years of life.

The grumbling, anger and frustration submitted to our elected reps in hopes our messages would be heeded appear to be of "ignore it and it will go away" importance. NEVER have such a large number of politicians in this nation (both parties) been so corrupt, so unscrupulous and so defiantly intent upon wielding brute power upon their constituents and thinking we'll adjust to it. They are VERY mistaken.

30 posted on 12/16/2009 10:49:50 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: NormsRevenge

Not just employers, but taxes the employee’s would have been paying....Governments are stupid.... Instead the X exployee’s now collect money from the state instead of the employer.......So lets raise taxes on employers some more to make up for the loss of taxes from the unemployed...and let more business’s go under because of high taxes....those people are insane........


31 posted on 12/16/2009 11:44:56 PM PST by goat granny
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To: MamaDearest
NEVER have such a large number of politicians in this nation (both parties) been so corrupt, so unscrupulous and so defiantly intent upon wielding brute power upon their constituents and thinking we'll adjust to it. They are VERY mistaken.

I would be willing to bet that no more than 20% of the people in our federal government apparatus are truly wicked or corrupt. But, that minority has created such a suppressive environment for the majority, that the majority are little more than slaves, who do the bidding of their masters.

In short, I feel that there is a tyranny already established within the culture of the fed gov't apparatus which uses its undue influence and power over the majority of federal workers (at every level) to force them to violate the trust and best interests of the people.

This majority fears the tyrants within the apparatus more than they fear the people. When we can change this dynamic so that they fear the people more, then we will break the hold of the corrupt and evil minority in government.

I can literally visualize the breakup of this corporate tyranny. It simply takes a lot of loud voices, and many, many thousand candle-watt lights of truth bearing down on it, and it will break.

That's happening now, but it needs to increase until it becomes too unbearable for the cockroaches who operate in the shadows.

32 posted on 12/17/2009 8:00:26 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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