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(US Rep.) Wittman faces harsh crowd in Montross ["Tea Partiers"/"Birthers"]
The Northern Neck News ^ | December 16, 2009 | Alex J. Berkman

Posted on 12/16/2009 9:44:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Rob Wittman was 40 minutes late to his town hall meeting in Montross on Dec. 8, where he received less than the hometown treatment from TEA Party members.

Held at Washington and Lee High School, the town hall meeting, sponsored by the Westmoreland County Citizens Association, was the public's opportunity to question Wittman on everything the actions of Congress and federal government.

While many questions posed to Wittman, first congressional district representative, dealt with health care and the economy, the show was quickly stolen by TEA Party members.

Catherine Crabill, former Republican candidate for the 99th district seat in Virginia's House of Delegates, read aloud a self-transcribed segment from Glenn Beck's program on Fox News.

The segment, according to her transcription, featured two politicians admitting that health care was not a constitutional right. Therefore, a vote on health care goes against the congressional oath of office and is treasonous to the United States Constitution, Crabill said.

"Do you intend to uphold your oath of office?," Crabill asked Wittman, garneringa round of applause.

"Yes, I will uphold my oath of office," Wittman answered, adding that he intends to see the health care bill process through to the end.

Audience members were given the opportunity to ask questions by placing their name in a bowl near the door to the cafeteria, where the meeting was held. Names were then chosen at random by Kennon Morris, president of the WCCA.

Mark Carpenter, another TEA Party member, expressed extreme contempt of the Obama administration and taxation when given the chance to speak.

"When people fear government you have tyranny. When the government fears the people you have freedom," Carpenter said. "We have a federal government that is, pardon my language, gang-raping the people."

Carpenter went on to say that the growth of the federal government is leading to the point where people will have to resort to violence.

"I have never seen folks so upset," Wittman responded.

Following other audience members' questions, many of which regarded health care reform, Carpenter took the floor again, to continue attacks against the current administration.

"The usurper we have in the White House has not proven he is qualified to be there," Carpenter said, speaking about President Barack Obama's contested birthplace.

The documentation of Obama's birthplace that has been presented to the public is valid, though, Wittman responded.

As Wittman pointed out his position on Obama's contested birthplace, often referred to as the "Birther Movement," another TEA Party member in the audience presented the representative with a manila envelope.

Inside the envelope were documents, which the woman said were from American Grand Jury, an anti-Obama organization, that supposedly gave proof of the president's false citizenship.

According to AmericanGrandJury.org's article "Obama's birth certificate: a pure fraud," the administration's "propraganda (sic) machine" displayed a doctored birth certificate presented to the public.

"The issue here is not if the [birth certificate] can be used to prove natural born citizenship status - it is that a President (and numerous accomplices) committed felony document fraud in creating this false identification document, in violation of Federal and State laws," American Grand Jury's Web site asserts.

Wittman himself also found himself in the TEA Party's crosshairs during the meeting --for his choice to not campaign with and support Catherine Crabill in the November election for the House of Delegates.

"You chose to abandon the 99th district by not supporting our candidate," said another woman in the crowd. "I speak for many when I ask why?"

Wittman, who represented the 99th district from 2005 to 2007, would not provide a detailed answer, opting to revert to the stance he took during the Crabill's campaign.

"My simple answer is I chose to endorse Catherine [Crabill]," Wittman answered.

"I'm going to refer you to Revelations three, verses 14 and 15," the Crabill's supporter said before walking out of the meeting.

The verse reads: "To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation. I know your deed, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!"


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 111th; angrymob; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; congress; robwittman; teaparties; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; townhalls; virginia; wittman
They just don't get it...
1 posted on 12/16/2009 9:44:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Im beginning to think when they get to Washington, they either have their brains or ba**s removed.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 9:46:45 PM PST by ConservativeNewYorker (FDNY 343 NYPD 23 PAPD 37)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be nice to have the STATE mentioned in the title, maybe in parentheses? Not everyone knows who Wittman is just from a headline.


3 posted on 12/16/2009 9:47:45 PM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The blind leading the blind and fall into the ditch.


4 posted on 12/16/2009 9:49:38 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And, is Wittman a D or an R?


5 posted on 12/16/2009 9:49:38 PM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: Mamzelle

Virginia.


6 posted on 12/16/2009 9:50:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Mamzelle

Republican.


7 posted on 12/16/2009 9:50:25 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Corin Stormhands; rabscuttle385; HokieMom

*VA ping*


8 posted on 12/16/2009 9:50:57 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Republican or just plain RINO?


9 posted on 12/16/2009 9:53:44 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

Fairly good voting record, he’s not been in Congress long, just 2 years, replacing the late Jo Ann Davis.


10 posted on 12/16/2009 10:13:18 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...the hometown treatment from TEA Party members.

Is TEA an acronym?

Thoroughly Enraged Activists?

11 posted on 12/16/2009 10:27:22 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

Taxed Enough Already?


12 posted on 12/16/2009 10:32:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: Plutarch

Taxed Enough Already is what it started as.


13 posted on 12/16/2009 10:33:38 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (To understan' the livin' you got to commune wit' da dead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Taxed Enough Already?

That sounds right.

14 posted on 12/16/2009 10:34:25 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
"Is TEA an acronym? "

Taking Environmentalism Away
15 posted on 12/16/2009 10:59:42 PM PST by FrankR (oBAMA: I'd rather pay higher premiums and live, than sit before your Death Panels and die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I have never seen folks so upset," Wittman responded.

"The documentation of Obama's birthplace that has been presented to the public is valid, though" Wittman responded.

Is it any wonder why they're upset? MORON.
16 posted on 12/16/2009 11:04:57 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

obumpa


17 posted on 12/17/2009 1:13:37 AM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see why he should care what you guys think. Who cares if he’s s****ing on the constitution? It’s not like he’ll lose votes for it.

I’d wager a lot that most “birthers” will vote for him (or in fact any anti-constitution Republican) in ‘10 simply because he’s not a Democrat. Cue all the “lesser of two evils” and “wasting your vote” rationalisations ...


18 posted on 12/17/2009 3:43:59 AM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; rabscuttle385; HokieMom
Whittman has his problems, but Catherine Crabill is not exactly the most stable person to challenge him.

Here's a Crabill quote from The Washington Times, April 1995:

Citizen militia groups in Montana, Florida and New Mexico say they condemn the bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City and charge that the federal government, not anyone in their movement, was likely responsible.

“If any militia group is truly responsible for the murderous bombing in Oklahoma City, then I say, ‘Hangin’s too good for ‘em,’ ” said Catherine Crabill of Aragon, N.M., who belongs to a group called New Mexico Citizens Action Association.

But Mrs. Crabill said it’s her belief “this heinous act of violence was the work of our government,” which will “use it as an excuse to aggressively attack the growing militia movement across the country.”

She has not (and I believe has said she will not) retracted that statement.

19 posted on 12/17/2009 5:24:48 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (ONE season. ONE reason.)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

It seems to me, the operations have to be performed before big money will pay for their campaigns.


20 posted on 12/17/2009 5:36:09 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Ah well, just wanted to make sure.

You can’t be too careful these days.


21 posted on 12/17/2009 7:58:11 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What we need is a Tea Party at the RNC Headquarters. Photobucket And then one at the DNC Headquarters. Photobucket
22 posted on 12/17/2009 8:35:16 AM PST by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"When people fear government you have tyranny. When the government fears the people you have freedom," Carpenter said. "We have a federal government that is, pardon my language, gang-raping the people."

Carpenter nails it!

STE=Q

23 posted on 12/17/2009 9:07:07 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Corin Stormhands; fieldmarshaldj

This whole thread is very difficult for me to follow, so I’ll just give it a TEA party bump!


24 posted on 12/17/2009 5:16:39 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Corin Stormhands; HokieMom; rabscuttle385

I’m glad you said that about Crabill, I had a sneaking concern she may have been, shall we say, a bit too “eccentric” to be a publicly elected face for the GOP. She got fairly close (48%), however, to beating Del. Albert Pollard, Jr. (Pollard, of course, had been the prior Dem incumbent to Wittman) last month.


25 posted on 12/17/2009 8:01:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; HokieMom; rabscuttle385

Some of the people who know her say she’s not such a nutcase. But she hasn’t retracted the Oklahoma statement (as far as I can tell).

And she got quite a bit of negative publicity with a statement during her campaign where she said that issues might have to be “settled at the bullet box, not the ballot box.” Her campaign claimed she was quoting Patrick Henry, but so far I’ve not seen a source for the link.

I don’t know her personally. But I know several people who followed the campaign, followed how she was nominated, etc.

A credible candidate with full party support could have won that district back.


26 posted on 12/18/2009 6:21:55 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (ONE season. ONE reason.)
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