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Monica's back says Clinton lied
Politico.com ^ | 12/17/09 | JOSH GERSTEIN & JOHN F. HARRIS

Posted on 12/17/2009 11:56:42 AM PST by OldDeckHand

In the years since their bitter battle, both former President Bill Clinton and independent counsel Ken Starr have predicted they’d be vindicated in the history books.

Now the first definitive history of the Clinton scandal is about to arrive – and neither man can be completely happy about his portrayal in its pages.

“The Death of American Virtue,” due out in February, asserts that Clinton had yet another extramarital affair, with Susan McDougal of Whitewater fame. Also in the book, Monica Lewinsky tells author Ken Gormley that she believes the president lied under oath when he described their encounters.

At the same time, Gormley offers a harsh portrait of Starr as a man out of his depth and who lost all sense of proportion. His interviews offer new ammunition to critics who contend the Lewinsky investigation was marred at its outset by improper questioning of Lewinsky in January 1998 by Starr’s lieutenants, who continued to grill her even after she asked for a lawyer.

Two presidents later, the saga feels like a far-off chapter in the nation’s history but the book makes clear that the principals, including Clinton himself, remain keenly interested in squaring the historical record to their liking.

In three interviews with the author, Clinton makes clear – to no surprise of longtime observers of the 42nd president – how aggrieved his continues to feel over the whole episode, unspooling a stream of choice invective about his other accusers. In Clinton’s telling, the head of the House impeachment team, Henry Hyde, is a “bitter right-winger” and “hypocrite,” and the judge who cited Clinton for civil contempt was merely currying favor with the conservative wing of the GOP.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; impeachment; monica; monicalewinsky; starr; whitewater
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If they're interested in talking about Clinton's trevails again, you know that they want to talk about ANYTHING other than Barry's EPIC FAILURE.
1 posted on 12/17/2009 11:56:44 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

der Schlictmeister’s escapades seem tame compared to der Fuhrer 0bama’s attempt to become dictator.


2 posted on 12/17/2009 11:58:32 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: OldDeckHand

“The era of big government is over.”


3 posted on 12/17/2009 11:58:44 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: OldDeckHand

Monica dear, of course Bill lied, it’s who he is.

Heck unless you had a ruler with you it probably wasn’t his first one either.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 11:59:30 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: OldDeckHand

Does she talk about how qualified she was for the 6-figure job she got to lie under oath?


5 posted on 12/17/2009 12:00:25 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: OldDeckHand

6 posted on 12/17/2009 12:00:49 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

This just in....der Schlictmeister’s now counselling Tiger.


7 posted on 12/17/2009 12:01:20 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: OldDeckHand

YOU LIE!


8 posted on 12/17/2009 12:01:43 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I would never have thought I’d be even mildly nostalgic about Bubba’s antics.

Amazing.


9 posted on 12/17/2009 12:02:23 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: OldDeckHand

I kind of wish Monica would write her own book. Of course I respect her for not having done so. But still, I wish she would.


10 posted on 12/17/2009 12:02:53 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: OldDeckHand

Slick Willie, you are yesterday’s news. Begone!


11 posted on 12/17/2009 12:02:54 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Only because slickmeister had a conservative Congress to restrain him.


12 posted on 12/17/2009 12:05:26 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: OldDeckHand
Clinton and his defenders failed to acknowledge that Wright “could have ended his presidency with the stroke of a pen” by initiating criminal contempt proceedings against him while the impeachment case was still pending.

That should have been the headline. I wouldn't poo-poo this off as a detour away from the current pres_ent. It might remind some that this train wreck can be stopped.

13 posted on 12/17/2009 12:06:41 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: OldDeckHand
"If they're interested in talking about Clinton's trevails again, you know that they want to talk about ANYTHING other than Barry's EPIC FAILURE. "

EGG-zactly!

WHY are we revisiting Monica Lewinsky? So clinton lied...what else is new...and how does that make what she did OK?

She sealed her fate when she got involved with him, and if it's made "getting a lewinsky" a household word, then that is primarily the fault of her, him and the media putting "oral sex" on the evening news for months on end.

With all that is going on now with the kenyan and his minions, the lewinsky story falls within the rhelm of the old joke, "When you're up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember your initial objective was to drain the swamp."

'nuff said
14 posted on 12/17/2009 12:06:41 PM PST by FrankR (oBAMA: I'd rather pay higher premiums and live, than sit before your Death Panels and die.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"I kind of wish Monica would write her own book. Of course I respect her for not having done so. But still, I wish she would."

I'm not sure if she still is, but for a number of years, she was bound by an agreement with the Office of Independent Counsel that forbade her from writing a book.

She has appeared on at least one television special for which she was compensated, FWIW. I was watching the View (don't ask) a couple of months ago and Barbara Walters was talking about it. Walters likes Lewinsky, for some reason - perhaps on mistress to another.

15 posted on 12/17/2009 12:08:20 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Don Corleone
This just in....der Schlictmeister’s now counselling Tiger.

LOL!

16 posted on 12/17/2009 12:08:22 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: OldDeckHand

Monica was recruited by Tiger Woods?


17 posted on 12/17/2009 12:08:51 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: OldDeckHand

Memo to Billy Jeff: Better put some ice on that.


18 posted on 12/17/2009 12:11:17 PM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: OldDeckHand

And since they are already attacking the book, you know most of it is true....


19 posted on 12/17/2009 12:12:20 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: OldDeckHand
When Bill Clinton and Hillary got married he made her promise she would never look in his old suitcase he kept under the bed. She agreed and finally one day about 30 years after they were married she decided to look in the suitcase. To her surprise there were 3 empty aluminum beer cans and about $84,000 in cash. She confronted Bill and said she had looked in the suitcase. He said well, every time he was unfaithful he tossed an empty aluminum can in the case. Hillary said well that's not so bad, 30 years three cans, but what is the $84,000 for? Bill said well, when the suitcase was full I would take the cans down and recycle them for cash.
20 posted on 12/17/2009 12:13:34 PM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: JoeProBono
A picture of a true American success story. A draft dodger who could not ever hold public office until that senile reprobate idiot Carter granted amnesty.

Governor for some ridiculous state that ranks dead last in education, but was elected to the presidency because of some spiteful dwarf named Ross Perot.

Never caring about America or righteousness, this scumbag used the office of the presidency solely as a means to bed whores.

Now he's living the high life on a lifetime pension and armed escorts, all courtesy of the US taxpayer.

This guy's the greatest conman since Oral Roberts.

21 posted on 12/17/2009 12:16:53 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: OldDeckHand

Bill Clinton raped a woman, maybe more and he should be in a jail cell.


22 posted on 12/17/2009 12:17:34 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: OldDeckHand

Didn’t Clinton admit he lied as part of the plea bargain he made?


23 posted on 12/17/2009 12:17:40 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Harley

LOL!!!!


24 posted on 12/17/2009 12:17:50 PM PST by ronniesgal (Merry Christmas early, and a Happy Channukah!)
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To: OldDeckHand

this caused clinton a ton of trouble, but the real scandal of the clinton years was the apparent co-opting of his administration by China, and the flagrant funding of the 1996 campaign by same (which presumably continues to this day. Mr Hsu just happened to get caught).


25 posted on 12/17/2009 12:18:08 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: OldDeckHand

Clinton lied? Nooooooo! In other news, sun rises in east; ocean tides rise and fall each day; four seasons comprise a solar year and Barack Hussein Obama embraces socialism.


26 posted on 12/17/2009 12:18:43 PM PST by meandog (OWEbummercare means die quickly!)
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To: LouAvul
A picture of a true American success story. A draft dodger who could not ever hold public office until that senile reprobate idiot Carter granted amnesty. Governor for some ridiculous state that ranks dead last in education, but was elected to the presidency because of some spiteful dwarf named Ross Perot. Never caring about America or righteousness, this scumbag used the office of the presidency solely as a means to bed whores. Now he's living the high life on a lifetime pension and armed escorts, all courtesy of the US taxpayer. This guy's the greatest conman since Oral Roberts.

Well said.

27 posted on 12/17/2009 12:19:19 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: OldDeckHand

I guess the handbag thing didn’t pan out.

BTW is she married yet or is she a spinster?


28 posted on 12/17/2009 12:20:33 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: OldDeckHand
Clinton retorts: “They were disgraced and he [Hyde] knows it. They ran a partisan hit job run by a bitter right-winger, Henry Hyde, who turned out to be a hypocrite on the personal issues….Yeah I will always have a asterisk after my name but I hope I’ll have two asterisks: one is ‘They impeached him,” and the other is ‘He stood up to them and beat them and he beat them like a yard dog.’”

Yeah, you "beat" them. That's all your entire 8 sorry years ever was to you, a g*******d game!

Ten years out, and this bitter, narcissistic man-child still can't bring himself to admit HE was the one at fault, HE was the one who broke the law, and HE was the one who demeaned the office he was elected to serve.

And had it not been for the public, drunk on fat 401ks, you would have gotten the punishment you deserve.

I had forgotten how I felt about this and had moved on. But he was a disgrace, and it doesn't deserve to be swept under the rug. Glad this refreshed my memory.

29 posted on 12/17/2009 12:22:24 PM PST by GOP_Resurrected
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To: LouAvul
"A picture of a true American success story"


30 posted on 12/17/2009 12:22:48 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: OldDeckHand
“The Death of American Virtue,” due out in February, asserts that Clinton had yet another extramarital affair, with Susan McDougal of Whitewater fame.

Yawn. Good grief, this is a decade late and a dollar short.

This person wanted Linda Tripp to commit perjury. Why would I care about what she has to say now, as if it was above being a pack of lies.

31 posted on 12/17/2009 12:22:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Sick and tired of reading new information sure to hurt Tiger Woods' wife and kids. ENOUGH AREADY!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Bill Clinton is the king of trailer trash. He should be remembered as the president who raped women and soiled the white house.
32 posted on 12/17/2009 12:23:15 PM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: Harley

LMAO...


33 posted on 12/17/2009 12:24:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Sick and tired of reading new information sure to hurt Tiger Woods' wife and kids. ENOUGH AREADY!)
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To: bert
"BTW is she married yet or is she a spinster?"

Spinster.

34 posted on 12/17/2009 12:24:10 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
...so Bubba dies and goes to he||...Satan escorts him down a very long corridor, finally stopping in front of a steel door.

The devil unlocks it, and to the Sinkmeister's surprise, there's Ken Starr being administered to by none other than Monica herself!

Clinton thinks he|| might not turn out to be such a bad place after all.

"Ok," says Satan, "Monica you can get up. This is Bill's cell now."

35 posted on 12/17/2009 12:25:59 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: OldDeckHand
Rules.


36 posted on 12/17/2009 12:29:00 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: OldDeckHand

The Clinton whitewash continues. Starr brought Lewinski up in order to divert attention from Ron Brown. I don’t have any doubts about it, but no proof either. Starr was able to cover up Whitewater, Vince Foster, the FBI files, sales of technology to China and probably a lot more.

Ron Brown was about to blow up with no way to cover it up and was a hell of a lot more serious that diddling an intern, but once Lewinski came out it was buried.


37 posted on 12/17/2009 12:32:27 PM PST by Bob Buchholz
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To: OldDeckHand
asserts that Clinton had yet another extramarital affair, with Susan McDougal of Whitewater fame

As if that is a shocker. Remember, it was the Clinton crowd that got her hooked up with scum lawyer Mark Geragos. IMO, Geragos had an affair with her too.

Maybe old George Stephanopolous should come clean and tell the truth. After all, he wants to be taken seriously as a newsman.

38 posted on 12/17/2009 12:36:47 PM PST by kcvl
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To: OldDeckHand

I wish he were back in the White House, and its current occupant were not.


39 posted on 12/17/2009 12:40:23 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: OldDeckHand

Nothing more than a screed against Ken Starr.

Nothing new at all.


40 posted on 12/17/2009 12:40:37 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: FrankR

Somebody is not happy that Hitlery has such good poll numbers.

After all, there are comments in the book about Henry Hyde. The man is dead and buried. This book has been held in waiting for just the right moment.

Info about Hitlery’s crimes too. What a shock. She lied, he lied, and Monica is still a tramp.


41 posted on 12/17/2009 12:42:51 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: OldDeckHand

Give her another ten years and she’ll admit he forced himself on her the first time. He’ll probably be dead by then fwiw.


42 posted on 12/17/2009 12:46:26 PM PST by John W (The more predictable we are, the more vulnerable we are.)
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To: Bob Buchholz

Oh come on. It’s very common for people in plane crashes to be found with a .45 caliber hole in the back of their head.

And it is very frequent for flight attendants to survive a crash with only and minor leg wound, and then die on the way to the hospital.

You need to get control of your obviously overactive imagination. Nothing to see here, move along.


43 posted on 12/17/2009 12:49:58 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Harley

ROFL


44 posted on 12/17/2009 12:53:43 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: OldDeckHand
Have you seen her lately???


45 posted on 12/17/2009 12:58:09 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Thanks, Susan!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Clinton had yet another extramarital affair, with Susan McDougal of Whitewater fame.

Duh. Anybody who was hanging out here during that era knew this.

Henry Hyde, is a “bitter right-winger” and “hypocrite,”

Henry Hyde was a weak tea RINO at best. Describing him as a right winger works only if you stand him next to Vladimir Lenin.

46 posted on 12/17/2009 1:10:53 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Have you seen her lately???

Yep.


47 posted on 12/17/2009 1:12:07 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: OldDeckHand
a harsh portrait of Starr as a man out of his depth and who lost all sense of proportion

Starr was assigned to investigate Clinton's "private" affairs by Reno, which is to say, by the Clinton administration while the real crimes, the Chinese connections and so forth were bottled up inside the Justice Department, never to see the light of day.

The Starr show was candy for the press. It was a diversion.

48 posted on 12/17/2009 1:15:52 PM PST by marron
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To: OldDeckHand

Some words you will NEVER hear.....”Mom, Dad, I’d like you to meet my fiance’, Monica Lewinski.”


49 posted on 12/17/2009 1:22:43 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I bet she still votes democrat.


50 posted on 12/17/2009 1:25:32 PM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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