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Senator wants to ban semi-automatic weapons (Jeanne Kohl-Welles[D] Washington State)
My Northwest ^ | December 17, 2009 | HEATHER BOSCH

Posted on 12/17/2009 3:16:40 PM PST by Stoat

Senator wants to ban semi-automatic weapons


 


 


 

By HEATHER BOSCH
KIRO Radio
 

Expect to hear a lot about gun control when the legislature reconvenes in January.

Senator Jeanne Kohl-Welles is among those who want to ban the sale of military-style, semi-automatic weapons. "These are guns that I don't see have any function in our society."

Kohl-Welles said she was prompted to act after the murder of Seattle Police Officer Tim Brenton.

"He was believed to be killed by a semi-automatic assault weapon. Of course, we also had the killing of several other police officers not by assault weapons. The point here is that we're having police killed in much larger numbers than the past."

The ban, which is supported by the Seattle Police department would cover all weapons that are capable of rapid fire and can hold more than 10 rounds in a clip.

Also supporting the ban is Washington Ceasefire, a non- profit organization dedicated to reducing gun violence.

The bill in question is called the Aaron Sullivan Public Safety and Police Protection Bill. Which is named for Sullivan who was killed by an assault rifle in Seattle on July 22nd, 2009.

 

 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; democrats; gunban; liberalfascism; seattle; shallnotbeinfringed; washington; washingtonstate
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Sen. Jeanne Kohl-Welles - Washington State Senate Democrats

 


1 posted on 12/17/2009 3:16:41 PM PST by Stoat
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To: sionnsar; Libertina; SW6906; 4woodenboats; DaveLoneRanger; Joe Brower
The ban, which is supported by the Seattle Police department would cover all weapons that are capable of rapid fire and can hold more than 10 rounds in a clip.
2 posted on 12/17/2009 3:18:27 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Try for treason.


3 posted on 12/17/2009 3:18:50 PM PST by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: Stoat
"The point here is that we're having police killed in much larger numbers than the past"

Someone needs to educate this idiot about the years 1865-1900. More police are killed today, because THERE ARE MORE POLICE. It has nothing to do with law-abiding citizens exercising their Constitutional rights.

4 posted on 12/17/2009 3:21:26 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Stoat

I’d like to split Washington in half, east side,west side,say at the entrance to Mt.Ranier.


5 posted on 12/17/2009 3:22:49 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: OldDeckHand

I see no purpose in her in this day and time.


6 posted on 12/17/2009 3:23:18 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: Stoat
Senator Jeanne Kohl-Welles is among those who want to ban the sale of military-style, semi-automatic weapons. "These are guns that I don't see have any function in our society."

Yes, history proves that people are much safer when only the police and the military have them.

7 posted on 12/17/2009 3:24:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Stoat
"He was believed to be killed by a semi-automatic assault weapon.

Perhaps something does need to be done about all those autonomous weapons that roam Washington and shoot unsuspecting police officers. In other states guns are not permitted to roam about alone or in herds.

8 posted on 12/17/2009 3:26:47 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Stoat
Of course, we also had the killing of several other police officers not by assault weapons

They "had" it done? Is this Washington's method of terminating a union police officer that can't be fired?

9 posted on 12/17/2009 3:28:36 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: OldDeckHand
More police are killed today, because THERE ARE MORE POLICE. It has nothing to do with law-abiding citizens exercising their Constitutional rights.

I'm not even convinced that's true. Someone posted some numbers the other day comparing line-of-duty police deaths with the early 70's. The per capita numbers were down so sharply (>70% decrease) that even the absolute numbers were down in spite of a 50% increase in the number of officers.

10 posted on 12/17/2009 3:29:07 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Stoat

Hint: If their last names are hyphenated, chances are they’re moonbatty, leftist women with unshaved underarms and legs.


11 posted on 12/17/2009 3:40:07 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mdittmar
You are quite right: Washington is really two separate states, with widely divergent attitudes and philosophies. West of the Cascades is moonbat central, while east of the Cascades has some semblance of normalcy.
12 posted on 12/17/2009 3:42:44 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Stoat
HMMMMM...... I wonder what she did for Officer Sullivan before he died. As a Democrat, I doubt she did much (unless he was in a union of course). Then she might at least have given him a tax deduction receipt for his in-name campaign contribution.
13 posted on 12/17/2009 3:44:32 PM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Stoat

Magazine NOT clip !


14 posted on 12/17/2009 3:48:08 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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Kohl-Welles said she was prompted to act smelled a political opportunity after the murder of Seattle Police Officer Tim Brenton.

There, fixed it.

15 posted on 12/17/2009 3:48:20 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat
Senator Jeanne Kohl-Welles is among those who want to ban the sale of military-style, semi-automatic weapons. "These are guns that I don't see have any function in our society."

Senator, I don't see where gun grabbing, tax, and spend Marxists have any legitimate function in our society.

16 posted on 12/17/2009 3:48:33 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: c-b 1

Use one to get rid of the other ... you figure it out.


17 posted on 12/17/2009 3:49:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Stoat

So the Dims have decided they want to lose ALL their seats in Congreess in 2010?


18 posted on 12/17/2009 3:50:10 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

No, I think she’s in the Washington statehouse.


19 posted on 12/17/2009 3:57:23 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Stoat

The gunman who killed the four police in Lakewood was not using a military style weapon.


20 posted on 12/17/2009 3:57:39 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: driftdiver
So the Dims have decided they want to lose ALL their seats in Congreess in 2010?

If they all want to run off the edge of the cliff, I won't be objecting to anything other than all of the wasted time, criminally-squandered money and profound damage that they have inflicted upon America and her Allies during their predictably misspent majority in office.  It seems that every generation or so, voters need to be reminded of how REALLY bad for the country the Dems are.  I only wish that peoples' memories were longer.

 

 

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21 posted on 12/17/2009 4:01:57 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: fireman15
The gunman who killed the four police in Lakewood was not using a military style weapon.

That fact, just like most other facts, will never interfere with the Dems' eagerness to push their agenda.  They figure that they can't wait and allow the emotion of the moment slip away when they can capitalize on it to push their Socialist agenda down our throats.

"Never waste a good crisis" I believe was a recent quote.....

22 posted on 12/17/2009 4:05:41 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Funny thing is that the drum-fed shotgun on the table is already illegal under Federal law (it’s a ‘destructive device’). The two TEC-9 types on the table are worthless jam-o-matics and no military ever used them.


23 posted on 12/17/2009 4:09:07 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Stoat
Sen. Kohl-Welles has also called for the ban of these 'military-style' weapons /s


24 posted on 12/17/2009 4:13:15 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Stoat
10 rounds in a clip?

(Phew, all mine have magazines.)

25 posted on 12/17/2009 4:13:50 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Still Thinking; Stoat; OldDeckHand

Actually, police killings are down:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34849


26 posted on 12/17/2009 4:19:12 PM PST by BobbyT
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To: Stoat

As I understand it, the perp in Lakewood used a fairly ordinary Beretta 9mm. Perhaps somebody can correct me on that?

But regardless... having, or not having over 10 rounds in the magazine was not a factor in the slaying of those four cops. The perp could’ve used a revolver and it would have still been the same. Hell, standing there at the table he could’ve used a 7-iron and it would’ve been about the same.


27 posted on 12/17/2009 4:22:28 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Stoat

Good luck with that! (you freaking loon!)


28 posted on 12/17/2009 4:28:17 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: washingtoncon; Pavegunner72; cherry; aw93472; WeatherGuy; CBF; x_plus_one; Libertina; ...
Thanks to Stoat for the ping.

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Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

29 posted on 12/17/2009 4:46:10 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Stoat

“These are guns that I don’t see have any function in our society.”

Just wait and see.


30 posted on 12/17/2009 4:51:59 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Stoat

If I was associated with the Sullivan family I would sue her bovine ass off for using my name. She is one disgusting cow...


31 posted on 12/17/2009 4:53:27 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Spktyr

Can you tell what manufacturer/model the shotgun is? I, ahem, know someone who has a Saiga 12 with a 20-round drum that is completely legal in Washington state.


32 posted on 12/17/2009 4:57:13 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

The Saiga isn’t banned because as imported it’s in a sporting configuration.

The shotgun in the pic is a “Street Sweeper” or “Striker” shotgun or clone thereof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armsel_Striker


33 posted on 12/17/2009 5:00:41 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rockrr
Can you tell what manufacturer/model the shotgun is?

I wonder how old that photo is - Intratec went out of business almost 9 years ago...

34 posted on 12/17/2009 5:05:22 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: Stoat
Senator Jeanne Kohl-Welles is among those who want to ban the sale of military-style, semi-automatic weapons. "These are guns that I don't see have any function in our society."

Her's a few folks who would disagree with you you dumb old 'Rat biddy.

"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." - Senator Hubert H. Humprey (D-Minnesota)

HHH was a liberal's liberal, but he was still a patriot, unlike today's crop of liberals and Democrats.

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." - Mahatma Ghandi


"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press." - Thomas Jefferson

"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Put that in your pipe and smoke it... being sure to take the MaryJane out first.

35 posted on 12/17/2009 5:15:39 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: fireman15
The gunman who killed the four police in Lakewood was not using a military style weapon.

Did we ever find out just what he was using?

Major Nidel Hasan didn't use an ugly black gun either. Just a semi-automatice pistol.

36 posted on 12/17/2009 5:17:14 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Ramius
As I understand it, the perp in Lakewood used a fairly ordinary Beretta 9mm.

That actually is a Military Style weapon. It's not an assualt rifle, nor is it a semi-autoversion of one. It is however a military issue weapon, or at least a version of one, the M9, also by Beretta USA.

However, some AW bans would include it by features.

37 posted on 12/17/2009 5:23:19 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Stoat

Yet another butt ugly liberal man beast.


38 posted on 12/17/2009 5:31:44 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Stoat

How about we just ban all guns for convicted felons, and maybe die-hard democrats.


39 posted on 12/17/2009 5:32:37 PM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: Stoat

Not up for election in 2010? Or is Washington just that lefty?


40 posted on 12/17/2009 5:35:04 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Stoat

Seattle police are not the norm. Through no-holds-barred “non-discrimination” policies, the department has been infested with faggots, feminists, and all manner of leftist trash. Just part of the culture of Seattle, the San Francisco of the Northwest.


41 posted on 12/17/2009 5:36:22 PM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: Stoat
The freedom hating grandma looks like she should be baking cookies at a girl scout jamboree...WTF is she doing in a position of authority?

Dang!

42 posted on 12/17/2009 5:37:34 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Ramius
As I understand it, the perp in Lakewood used a fairly ordinary Beretta 9mm. Perhaps somebody can correct me on that?

Technically a 9mm Beretta M9A1 is a military weapon, though I would not lead an assualt with it.

43 posted on 12/17/2009 5:48:19 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: Stoat

see..thats the problem..bunch of dimwits think they have been appointed by God to tell us what we need or don’t need.

Why dont you folks tell her its none of her business what guns you have?


44 posted on 12/17/2009 5:53:12 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju)
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To: Electric Graffiti

And you always have to watch these female politicians with hyphenated last names.

Those are always trouble. It makes them think theyre smarter than the rest of us.


45 posted on 12/17/2009 5:54:35 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju)
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To: Spktyr

“The two TEC-9 types on the table are worthless jam-o-matics and no military ever used them.”

Actually, the TEC-9 is a reasonably good semi pistol, and will fire the cheapest imported ammo without jamming. It’s also fun to shoot...


46 posted on 12/17/2009 5:55:19 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Stoat

The streetsweeper has been an Any other Weapon since the end of george HW Bushs admin.


47 posted on 12/17/2009 5:55:50 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju)
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To: JrsyJack; Ramius

Mas Ayoob reported on his blog that when the murderer was killed he had one of the guns from the downed police officers.

By this cretin’s (the elected official) logic, we should dis-arm police because the bad guys are using stolen cop guns.

Go figure. See tagline - hasn’t changed in years...

Kit.


48 posted on 12/17/2009 5:57:16 PM PST by KitJ (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: mdittmar

I have been advocating doing just that with several states. Washington, Oregon, Illinois, New York, and Pennsylvania.


49 posted on 12/17/2009 5:59:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Travis McGee

Yep, Armenia, Ukraine, Nazi Germany, Cuba, Communist China, the USSR, Cambodia, Uganda, and Iran are all excellent examples where the only the military and police have guns.


50 posted on 12/17/2009 6:05:22 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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