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Clinton: Failure a "colossal blunder"
SFGate: Politics Blog ^ | 12/17/9 | Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

Posted on 12/17/2009 3:45:56 PM PST by SmithL

Nebraska Democratic holdout Sen. Ben Nelson has declared "not sufficient" the compromise abortion language offered to him, and is digging in by raising numerous other objections to the Senate health bill. His fellow home-state Senator, Republican Mike Johanns, joined a GOP press conference today railing against the legislation, reading aloud condemnations from Nebraska's governor, also a Republican, to intensify the pressure on Nelson. He appears not to need it.

Former President Bill Clinton, who a few weeks ago wowed Democrats in their Senate luncheon chamber, clearly agrees with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's argument, and disagrees with Howard Dean's. He called (the imminent?) failure to pass the bill a "colossal blunder."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billybentpecker; bubba; clinton; hellthcarefromhell; hitlery; obamacare

1 posted on 12/17/2009 3:45:56 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Well, if anyone knows about “failures” and “colossal blunders,” it’s ol’ BJ.


2 posted on 12/17/2009 3:48:09 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: SmithL

Are we to believe that 58 dem senators are in nazi lockstep supporting this and Nelson and Liberman are the only ones expressing concern?


3 posted on 12/17/2009 3:50:27 PM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: SmithL

Nice to hear from Bill Clinton.

Why have the Clintons been so silent in this healthcare debate? Why isn’t Hillary out there helping force this down everyone’s throats? I know she has a different job now and all that. But, as the face of the previous Democrat healthcare reform effort, why don’t they use her to push this??????? That effort was part of her 35 years of experience in making change that she bragged about when she ran for president.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 3:51:25 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SmithL

Don’t worry, Snow and Collins will save the day for them and let Nelson and all the Dems off the hook.


5 posted on 12/17/2009 3:52:10 PM PST by Hattie
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To: edcoil

Well, I’m sure now that Bill Clinton has weighed in, that will convince Nelson, Lieberman, Lincoln, Landrieu, etc. that they need to vote for this. (sarcasm)

Heck, Bill might even persuade Snowe and Collins to cross the aisle. Can he use his charm on the two Maine ladies?


6 posted on 12/17/2009 3:53:27 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SmithL

No, cankles is giving $100 billion dollars away from US taxpayers (me) to thwart a Global Warming lie.

Bubba is just being his normal, herpes-infected self.


7 posted on 12/17/2009 3:55:08 PM PST by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You know as well as I do. Hillary or Bill Clinton associated with healthcare is sure death. Might remind people of their fiasco which our Republicans should be reminding the public of day and night.


8 posted on 12/17/2009 3:57:55 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: wac3rd

wow - double barf, but truth alert...

true, but may make ya ill...


9 posted on 12/17/2009 3:58:12 PM PST by KeatsforFirstDog
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To: edcoil

If Nelson was smart he should jump ship and swim over the GOP. That will give him.cover if he withholds his vote for this healthcare debacle. He’s deadmeat in Nebraska if he votes for it.


10 posted on 12/17/2009 4:01:58 PM PST by tflabo
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To: KeatsforFirstDog
Why is it when a politician accepts a bribe ...they go to jail but when Senator Landreiu of LA accepts $300 million from Ubama for her vote on Health care ....it is no big deal ??

I heard Ben Nelson is being offered $500 million to spend as he sees fit in his state ....why is this NOT A CRIME ??

11 posted on 12/17/2009 4:05:06 PM PST by W-Girl
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To: Hattie

Sad but true


12 posted on 12/17/2009 4:05:15 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: SmithL
Former President Bill Clinton, who a few weeks ago wowed Democrats in their Senate luncheon chamber, clearly agrees with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's argument, and disagrees with Howard Dean's. He called (the imminent?) failure to pass the bill a "colossal blunder."

He just wants Obama to lose the House, like he did.

13 posted on 12/17/2009 4:07:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: W-Girl

It is a crime and a bribe. Someone has to object. I am not sure anyone in Washington or nationaly has the courage to object and prosecute


14 posted on 12/17/2009 4:09:01 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve.)
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To: mortal19440
Sad but true

No, the GOP is sticking together on this one.

Even they can't stomach this mess of a Bill.

15 posted on 12/17/2009 4:09:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Can he use his charm on the two Maine ladies?

Well, maybe they're beyond that; but Snowe could use a nose job. Bill could afford that.

16 posted on 12/17/2009 4:09:56 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: SmithL
 Moonshine Willie
17 posted on 12/17/2009 4:11:50 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: SmithL

I was just watching FOX and the consensus on the panel is that Nelson will get what he wants and they will have the votes. Looks like there’s a very good chance it will get to the floor soon.


18 posted on 12/17/2009 4:24:32 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SmithL

Head fake. This will pass xmas eve and the libs will be laughing about it.


19 posted on 12/17/2009 4:28:38 PM PST by pabianice
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To: SmithL
Hmm, yes, some input from The Impeached One to consider.

Any word what Jimmy Carter and Cynthia McKinney have to say?

Or perhaps Michael Dukkakis and John Effing Kerry?

Has anyone asked Al Gore if government health control has also been exposed as a hoax via whistleblower emails?

I would like to hear from a broad selection of the Embarassing-Beyond-Words-Traitor Democrat pantheon before I make up my mind...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

20 posted on 12/17/2009 4:30:46 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: SmithL

What a relief. We can all breathe easier now that “Blow job” Clinton has chimed in. His methods and ethics are just so uplifting.


21 posted on 12/17/2009 4:30:51 PM PST by upchuck (The plan for 2010: Pray; Raise/conserve cash; Pray; Pay your debts; Pray; Stockpile; Buy ammo; Pray)
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To: SmithL

He wowed democrats...........what did he do.......expose himself.


22 posted on 12/17/2009 4:42:04 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: SmithL

Yes, Clinton was a colossal blunder.

But have no fear, someone is following in his footsteps.


23 posted on 12/17/2009 4:46:52 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: saganite
I was just watching FOX and the consensus on the panel is that Nelson will get what he wants and they will have the votes. Looks like there’s a very good chance it will get to the floor soon.

At this stage, it would be silly to let the bill hinge on Nelson's objection. Harry will cave and give Nelson what he wants -- no federally-funded abortion. He'll also buy off Bernie Sanders and grease Roland Burris' palm.

Then, the bill will pass the Senate on a party-line vote.

Then, the fun will begin in the Conference Committee -- where the House conferees will insist on retaining their public option and abortion provision -- and will go berserk over the Senate's individual mandate without a public option.

The House simply will not accept the Senate bill. And the Senate cannot accept the House bill. It will be bloody.

And, in the end, I would expect a.) the House bill to prevail so that b.) Harry would be forced to use the reconciliation process in the Senate.

24 posted on 12/17/2009 4:54:05 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

I just read a press release from Mitch McConnel in which he says the bill that’s being considered now isn’t even the one to be voted on later. That bill is in Sen Reid’s possesion and has been seen by no one outside his staff. The press release is linked at Drudge. It probably deserves it’s own thread here.


25 posted on 12/17/2009 4:56:43 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SmithL; All

Something was hitting my craw a bit funny with this current Dem strategy of the uberlibs, from Howard Dean to Olberman telling the Senate to vote no on healthcare. I knew that strategy of the flanks pulling out, allowing the center to collapse and the attackers to move in, then have the flanks come back in to crush the attackers and I wasn’t wrong, the Strategy at Cannae. Do not trust these Leftists with their crocodile tears for the public option, etc. they are sucking the Republicans in, trust me.


26 posted on 12/17/2009 5:03:33 PM PST by j.argese
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To: SmithL

The Clintons probably see this bill as something to purge all of the nutwing elements of their party. When it fails (before or after it passes), they will swoop in to reclaim the “moderate wing” of the Democrat party.


27 posted on 12/17/2009 5:03:48 PM PST by naguszed
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To: hsalaw

his administration was a collosal blunder and still is.


28 posted on 12/17/2009 5:06:54 PM PST by cubreporter (.)
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To: SmithL
Clinton: Failure a "colossal blunder"

Clinton: a Failure, a "colossal blunder"

29 posted on 12/17/2009 6:02:23 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (free enterprise (the first word is a verb))
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To: SmithL

30 posted on 12/17/2009 6:09:27 PM PST by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: Hattie
Snow and Collins will save the day for them...

Hatchet-Face 'n' Li'l Suzie have been promised a bailout of Maine's disastrous state healthcare plan, be about $300Million. So don't hold your breath waiting for these two to do the right thing.

31 posted on 12/17/2009 9:36:48 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ("Let only Americans stand guard tonight." Gen. G. Washington)
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To: SmithL
Smith,

There ain't no bill.

What Dirty Harry is hiding in his office is 3000 pages of TBD. To Be Determined at a later date by bureaucrats yet to be appointed,between now, when we start paying, and 2014, when it is to hit.

GOP Senators are making the rounds of the talk shows talking tough, being seen making the beau geste when they know damn well their chickenshiite compromises made earlier when their strenght could have made a difference, have made ruinous legislation possible. Repeat,

There ain't no bill.

Again, just like the Stimulus, we are handing the Democrats yet another blank check. God knows what they'll write on this one.

32 posted on 12/17/2009 9:48:48 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ("Let only Americans stand guard tonight." Gen. G. Washington)
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