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Republicans work to block EPA carbon rules
Reuters ^ | Dec 17, 2009 | Reuter

Posted on 12/17/2009 7:52:53 PM PST by FocusNexus

Republican lawmakers said on Thursday they would try to block a Environmental Protection Agency proposal that opens the door to federal regulation of planet-warming gases.

Last week, the EPA issued a ruling that greenhouse gas emissions endanger human health, clearing the way for the agency to regulate carbon without congressional legislation.

Senator Lisa Murkowski, the top Republican on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, is leading an effort in the chamber to overturn the finding through a rarely used joint resolution of disapproval.

Getting the proposal passed will be a heavy lift, since Republicans are a minority in both the House and Senate. The resolution requires the approval of both chambers and President Barack Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoenvironment; bhoepa; carbonemissions; climatechange; co2; epa; globalwarming; gop; obama
At least the Republicans can put the Dems votes on record and remind people of it in Nov 2010.
1 posted on 12/17/2009 7:52:53 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping!
2 posted on 12/17/2009 8:01:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: FocusNexus
“Republican lawmakers said on Thursday they would try to block a Environmental Protection Agency proposal that opens the door to federal regulation of planet-warming gases.”
Try my hind end. Do, don't try. Declare Co2 a non pollutant. Enforce the Data Quality Act.
3 posted on 12/17/2009 8:13:28 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: steveab
You didn't read this paragraph:

"Getting the proposal passed will be a heavy lift, since Republicans are a minority in both the House and Senate. The resolution requires the approval of both chambers and President Barack Obama."

4 posted on 12/17/2009 8:16:38 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: FocusNexus
How is it that nobody in Congress can call the whole Climate Change Conspiracy a fraud? Just where does Reuters figure that CO2 is causing a warming. This is just more BS. Any Congressman could educate the public to know the alarmist are following a fraud with just one link to Lord Monckton’s speech in Minnesota- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zmi74qtACY&feature=PlayList&p=1895582AA5B07E16&index=0&playnext=1

If the Republicans are really trying to stop this they are just unbelievably incompetent. I don't believe they are trying and there is nothing to convince me otherwise. Who is calling fraud. Who is telling the names of the real educators on the Climate Change Criminal Conspiracy?

I think we are being played again and the police state marches on.

5 posted on 12/17/2009 8:18:41 PM PST by poodle
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To: poodle

The above link is a playlist for 11 segments. It can be seen in 1:35 at one time with this link= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0

The following is the info section at YouTube:

Lord Christopher Monckton speaks on October 14th, 2009 at a climate skeptic event sponsored by the Minnesota Free Market Institute.


6 posted on 12/17/2009 8:26:50 PM PST by poodle
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To: poodle

I’ll tell you how. There is just too damn much money to be stolen! That’s how. These theiving sob’s will stop at nothing to pass legislation that is harmful to you and I, while making themselve’s billions. It’s got to be stopped.


7 posted on 12/17/2009 8:28:43 PM PST by Circle_Hook (Keep your powder dry.............You might need it soon!)
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To: poodle

I’ll tell you how. There is just too damn much money to be stolen! That’s how. These theiving sob’s will stop at nothing to pass legislation that is harmful to you and I, while making themselve’s billions. It’s got to be stopped.


8 posted on 12/17/2009 8:30:14 PM PST by Circle_Hook (Keep your powder dry.............You might need it soon!)
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To: FocusNexus; SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Note: I must hit the rack. Work comes early. But I must unload a thought often repeated and at the key to this whole sored affair regarding so called AGW.
The false assumptions based on a original idea dated back to about 1845 that the earth's atmosphere can be in some way studied in a closed loop system such as a little greenhouse is simply ludicrous.
Then this very simple but lacking any real mathematical solutions feed by real world data measurements, was again brought to light some twenty years later then repeated a few times later on.
Can any physicist, chemist, other, that make a living to carefully examine how the earth's atmosphere really works in it's varied ways along with just basic known knowledge regarding how CO2 molecules behave in general, think for a minute there is any truth to any form of greenhouse effect?
It is high time growing numbers of honest and concerned scientist, engineers, chemist, geologist, etc., come forth and start to educated their State and US Congress reps on both sides of the hill.
For ultimately, at least in the USA, if both sides of Congress say no. We can stem the tied of virtual rape to our wallets and our standard of living as well as those of our lovely children in the future.
It is in the power of those universities and government as well as some industrial complex willing and not directly in line to make huge profits to come forth and stop this horrid display of world control while there is still time to do it.
Step forth those in positions to stop this outrage. You will ultimately lose in the end along with the rest of us if you do not take a stand.
Now time for me to hit the sack. My eyes are weary... my soul a bit drained from all this crap. But do all, have a great upcoming day. Stay out of the cold. I must wake up to clearing my car windows from snow.....based on the local weather forecast.....brrrrrrrr....
9 posted on 12/17/2009 8:36:58 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: FocusNexus; All

This just in:

The EPA has declared that CO2 has been determined to be so hazardous to people’s health, that an emergency regulation will go into effect starting 12-18-09 until further notice. Science has proven that CO2 causes massive global warming which must stop now in order to save the planet. Since all humans exhale CO2 which is greatly contributing to the problem, this emergency regulation is absolutely necessary to preserve life as we know it.

Therefore, all males are henceforth ordered not to exhale on even numbered days of the month, and all females are henceforth ordered not to exhale on odd numbered days of the month. We know that this will be a difficult change in everyone’s daily habits, but we sincerely hope that we have acted in time to save Planet Earth.

Remember, no sacrifice is too great in order to save the planet and this is such a small inconvenience to anyone that full co-operation will be expected. Penalty for non-compliance will be execution and forfeiture of the entire decedent’s estate.

Due to the complexity of managing this problem and dealing with the ongoing world economic crisis as well as the burdens of government, certain goverment leaders, officials and selected others will be exempt from this regulation.

From the EPA, we hope that all of you have fun on your holidays. We know that WE will, (now).

/satire


10 posted on 12/17/2009 8:48:58 PM PST by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: Circle_Hook

We are being played to the utmost and given some kind of hooey narrative that the Republicans are trying to stop the Evil Dims. It is total BS. Where are the voices when we know it is all a fraud.

I add this because Lord Monckton is back on Alex Jones today. This is the first segment= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Gf5F09kG8

I also watched Alex Jones interview on Tuesday with Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, an expert on sea levels. His book on the subject of global warming and rising sea levels is titled “The Greatest Lie Ever Told.” Link= http://alex-jones-archives.politicsfiles.info/videos/dr-nilsaxel-morner-on-alex-jones-tv-13ipccs-global-sea-level-rising-statement-is-wrong/

The Republicans cannot be trying without a chorus of fraud and an investigation of crimes. We are being played. They know how stupid everyone is because people drink the fluoride and cannot say quit poisoning us.

This is an archive of Alex Jones interviews and anyone that wants to know of the crimes and fraud of it all has plenty of interviews that will show just how silent all of Congress is in light of the grandest scientific, political, and economic fraud ever: http://alex-jones-archives.politicsfiles.info/


11 posted on 12/17/2009 8:55:01 PM PST by poodle
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To: FocusNexus; rdl6989; Darnright; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; livius; DollyCali; FrPR; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

12 posted on 12/17/2009 8:59:21 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: FocusNexus

....won’t even be allowed on the floor of the Senate or House...


13 posted on 12/17/2009 9:14:14 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: poodle
How is it that nobody in Congress can call the whole Climate Change Conspiracy a fraud?

Sen. Inhofe (R-OK) has been very vocal about the Climate Change Hoax/Fraud.

You haven't heard much about it because the MSM doesn't feel the need to report on him.

14 posted on 12/17/2009 9:18:44 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: steveab
Enforce the Data Quality Act.

Amen. With the DQA you can force the CPA who signs the checks to stop the project cold.

15 posted on 12/17/2009 9:19:51 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Mao was right about power and guns; which is why he confiscated them.)
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To: FocusNexus; steveab
You didn't read this paragraph:

You don't know the power of enforcing the Data Quality Act. The CPA who signs the checks for agency expenditures MUST certify that the DQA requirements have been satisfied. If a serious question re the science justifying the expense exists, he MAY NOT sign the check until the question has been resolved or his CPA license is in serious jeopardy.

The greenies pull that stunt it all the time.

16 posted on 12/17/2009 9:24:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Mao was right about power and guns; which is why he confiscated them.)
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To: okie01
Show me where he says fraud. This is a criminal fraud and where is he calling for prosecution? I have watched some of his videos on YouTube and if he called fraud and called for prosecution that would carry like wild fire. So show me where he says fraud, and I will spread the link.
17 posted on 12/17/2009 9:33:50 PM PST by poodle
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To: FocusNexus
Who elected the EPA?

EPA, FEC,FCC, FDA, NASA, HUD,HHS, dept of education, dept of energy, the government schools, and almost every one of the thousands of government agencies must be abolished.

Government idiots steal $11,000.00 dollars per year from the job creators to “educate” a government school student. Many entrepreneurs can start a small business for $11,000. that is just more money wasted by government.

Government agencies have given hundreds of billions of dollars in government grants to fund ridiculous fraudulent nonprofit organizations, and ridiculous research to perpetuate lies like global warming , 3 million to study surgery in outer space etc. etc. All of this while 17% of Americans are unemployed.

Only for profit private business are accountable , accountable to customers, accountable to the bottom line, accountable to efficiency , and accountable to reality.

A product has to work so it has to rely on real science and has to have high quality and has to be produced efficiently. Only private for profit companies can do this. Government doesn't even deal in real science as the global warming hoax shows. So government can never produce quality products efficiently.

God bless the elected Republicans for trying to stop the EPA from destroying the U.S. economy for a lie called global warming.

18 posted on 12/18/2009 11:08:57 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: Democrat_media

“EPA, FEC,FCC, FDA, NASA, HUD,HHS, dept of education, dept of energy, the government schools, and almost every one of the thousands of government agencies must be abolished.”

Excellent post, I agree with you 100% on your entire post. Thanks for taking the time.


19 posted on 12/18/2009 1:00:21 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: Marine_Uncle

:’)


20 posted on 12/18/2009 6:28:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hark! Seriously. I missed the snow date for my sector. Whamo. I get it Saturday morning.....some 8 to 12 or perhaps more. I must go to work the weekend.
I am asking my brother to review a 115 page (PDF format) paper a German scientist wrote in 2007 then updated in 2009. It is so damning regarding CO2 causing any form of even slight global warming... if my brother a well established research scientist employed at a eastern university gives me a thumbs up I will consider taking some stuff out of the paper and showing it here as well as sending to some in Congress and perhaps elsewhere at a more local level.
Time is often not on my side to spend a lot of time on a given project. My work schedules range from getting up at 3:30AM to working till 11PM at other times. So I am not how should we say up to it most often.
I do recognize unfortunately, that for the most part this whole global warming issue is a political issue, one where a divers group but all under ultimately one group of masters, lets face it..... the very large banks, industrial magnets (hey... when is the last time you heard that phrase), others.... really are running the show, funding and persuading their minions to find ways of deceit, to fool the world at large on this and associated issues.
But despite that being the underlining sin.... the more people get a fell for how poor the science is behind this crap, maybe.... more will be willing to get the hell out and vote the next time around for more conservative and actual American patriots for one thing.

21 posted on 12/18/2009 9:40:26 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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