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Acid oceans: the 'evil twin' of climate change
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/18/09 | John Heilprin - ap

Posted on 12/18/2009 9:00:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge

MONTEREY BAY NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY, Calif. – Far from Copenhagen's turbulent climate talks, the sea lions, harbor seals and sea otters reposing along the shoreline and kelp forests of this protected marine area stand to gain from any global deal to cut greenhouse gases.

These foragers of the sanctuary's frigid waters, flipping in and out of sight of California's coastal kayakers, may not seem like obvious beneficiaries of a climate treaty crafted in the Danish capital. But reducing carbon emissions worldwide also would help mend a lesser-known environmental problem: ocean acidification.

"We're having a change in water chemistry, so 20 years from now the system we're looking at could be affected dramatically but we're not really sure how. So we see a train wreck coming," said Andrew DeVogelaere, the sanctuary's research director, while out kayaking this fall with a reporter in the cold waters.

Nothing in the treaty negotiations specifically addresses the effects of carbon absorption in the oceans on marine life, which studies show is damaging key creatures' hard shells or skeletons.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: acid; astrology; chickenlittle; climatechange; criminalconspiracy; cultureofcorruption; doubledown; eviltwin; fortuneteller; fraud; greensocialism; hoax; jeandixon; junkscience; oceans; pravdamedia; predictions; pseudoscience; thebiglie; toobigtofail

1 posted on 12/18/2009 9:00:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Here it comes - more feed for the Chicken Littles.


2 posted on 12/18/2009 9:01:08 AM PST by corkoman
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More than a few of the GReens were and are into Acid... better be careful there Mr. Researcher.


3 posted on 12/18/2009 9:01:36 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

First it was acid rain.

Now it’s acid oceans.


4 posted on 12/18/2009 9:02:15 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: NormsRevenge
We're doomed... now how is the Left going to suck CO2 out of the world's oceans? They can't even agree on how it should be done on terra firma.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

5 posted on 12/18/2009 9:03:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
Another AP reporter way behind the curve.

Gore's little poem is garnering far more laughs than concern.

6 posted on 12/18/2009 9:03:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: NormsRevenge

Underground volcanoes cause acidification. Are they going to ban those? LMAOROFL!!!!!!


7 posted on 12/18/2009 9:04:41 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Col Frank Slade

Al Gore is now saying that the polar ice caps will be completely gone in 5 years.

Prince Charles is now saying that the oceans will be dead in 7 years.

25 years ago Ted Danson was saying that the oceans will be dead in 20 years. He now claims it was hyperbole, not a deliberate lie.

They need to be criminally prosecuted for the lies they deliberately tell. Get these jive turkeys sworn in under oath before they make any billion dollar appeals. Hold them to their claims.


8 posted on 12/18/2009 9:06:28 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: NormsRevenge

There is a problem with following this line. It essentially decimates the “CO2 causes global warming” by admitting that CO2 is released as water warms and is sequestered in water (oceans) as it cools.

This means that CO2 is a lagging indicator of global temperature changes.


9 posted on 12/18/2009 9:08:05 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh BARF!


10 posted on 12/18/2009 9:08:39 AM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I remember Danson said that during the popular Cheers show.

He had Gore beat by 25 years.


11 posted on 12/18/2009 9:10:33 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: NormsRevenge

Worldists looking for a new battleground against those that believe in Liberty, in light of CopenFailen.


12 posted on 12/18/2009 9:11:02 AM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: NormsRevenge
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/ecospeak/climate-change/2009/12/some-ocean-dwellers-increase-their-shell-size-when-exposed-to-more-co2/

Report on a Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute study.

13 posted on 12/18/2009 9:14:32 AM PST by hc87
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To: Col Frank Slade

25 years ago, Al Gore was telling us about the threat of dirty rock and roll albums. Then in 1988 he ran for the presidency.

It’s all about attention, nothing about genuine concerns.

Has the music industry culture gone on to produce more uplifting or consistently more base works since the PMRC hearings from Gore and his wife?


14 posted on 12/18/2009 9:17:31 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: C210N

I predict a FAILSTORM.


15 posted on 12/18/2009 9:17:58 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Liars.


16 posted on 12/18/2009 9:19:55 AM PST by DB
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To: goldstategop
now how is the Left going to suck CO2 out of the world's oceans?

LOL. One of the projects that Dr. Brewer has been working on is sequestration of CO2 by capturing, liquifying it and sending it to the bottom of the ocean. Under enough depth (pressure) it remains liquid. Unless of course it gets loose and depressurizes.
17 posted on 12/18/2009 9:20:49 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: NormsRevenge

BAN OCEANS.


18 posted on 12/18/2009 9:21:32 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: a fool in paradise

Ah yes it’s always the crisis du jour.

Frank Zappa testified at those PMRC hearings and basically called Tipper Gore a moron.

He was right.


19 posted on 12/18/2009 9:22:07 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: sasquatch

Correction; under the right temp and pressure it solidifies.

http://www.mbari.org/news/news_releases/1999/may07_brewer.html


20 posted on 12/18/2009 9:24:50 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

No kidding! You seen that Malta volcano video..

The Earth and Cosmos be living things and occasionally flush who they will with extreme prejudice.. and there ain’t much driving a Prius is gonna do about it.

Reckun that newly discovered SuperEarth has its faults but maybe we best be building hugh spaceships and ‘get the heck out of Dodge’ before she blows..


21 posted on 12/18/2009 9:27:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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Mata .. oops..


22 posted on 12/18/2009 9:29:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: a fool in paradise

***25 years ago Ted Danson was saying that the oceans will be dead in 20 years.***

And thiry five years ago it was said we would be under hundreds of feet of ice!


23 posted on 12/18/2009 9:30:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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Scientists Discover and Image Explosive Deep-Ocean Volcano
NOAA-NSF Mission Adds to Understanding of Basic Earth Processes
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20091217_volcano2.html


24 posted on 12/18/2009 9:30:56 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge
December 17, 2009

Scientists Discover and Image Explosive Deep-Ocean Volcano

"80 percent of the earth's volcanic activity occurs in the sea."

"The water from the volcano is very acidic, with some samples collected directly above the eruption measuring somewhere between battery acid and stomach acid." http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20091217_volcano2.html

25 posted on 12/18/2009 9:32:28 AM PST by anglian
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To: anglian

The Earth has a fever too, yaknow. :-)


26 posted on 12/18/2009 9:36:33 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge
In the mid-Cretaceous, the CO2 levels were about ten times higher than today. The proof is in the varieties of calcium carbonate deposits that form at specific CO2 concentrations, and in gas bubbles trapped in Cretaceous amber.

Back then, the world was 8 - 10 degrees C warmer, and the oceans contained huge amounts of coral and other marine life - modern reefs pale in comparison. The lands were lush with greenery.

27 posted on 12/18/2009 9:42:41 AM PST by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Col Frank Slade

Zappa’s kids endorsed Al Gore in 2000. I think that Dee Snider too.

Somehow I think that John Denver and Frank Zappa would still have opposed him.


28 posted on 12/18/2009 9:43:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: a fool in paradise

John Denver and Frank Zappa:

When worlds collide !


29 posted on 12/18/2009 9:46:55 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Col Frank Slade

Why don’t we just dump a little carmel flavoring in and we could have Coke Oceans!


30 posted on 12/18/2009 9:49:27 AM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: NormsRevenge; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono

CRISWELL PREDICTS!

Can our whirling, turning, churning earth last out the night? Our geologists tell us that the danger to Mother Earth lies not in the uncharted vast of outer space, but from inner-earth! ...

Here is what will more than likely happen according to geologists: Small tidal waves will play havoc for no reason at all. The surface of the earth will bulge ever so slightly and highways will slightly buckle. Foundations will tip, and floors will slant. When you pour a cup of coffee or a glass of water, the rim will not level. Telephone coin boxes and vending machines will refuse to work. Delicate instruments will go haywire. Elevators will go out of whack. Jukeboxes will be mute. Radio and TV will fail. All electric power, gas and water service will cease. And then will come the time when garbage cans roll across the street for no apparent reason.

Then and only then will you realize the advanced corrosion spelling the end of our Earth. The seas will quickly fill up with a gooey mass of inner-earth rubble. Our streets and city lots, farms, and deserts will bubble up like a festered oil, marking the complete collapse. Has this happened before? More than likely. And it will again happen in your incredible future.

OH NOZE!

31 posted on 12/18/2009 9:51:23 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: JaguarXKE
Acid washed jeans are comin' back, baby! Whoooooooo!


32 posted on 12/18/2009 9:52:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: a fool in paradise; NormsRevenge

33 posted on 12/18/2009 9:55:28 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: a fool in paradise

At this point, Criswell is more credible than the CRU.


34 posted on 12/18/2009 9:59:20 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("The solution to every ill is a cat." --TheOldLady)
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To: JoeProBono

Didn’t Fonzi once jump a shark in a pool of acid?


35 posted on 12/18/2009 10:11:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Another load of krappy krap krap !
http://www.theusmat.com/


36 posted on 12/18/2009 10:16:04 AM PST by mosesdapoet ( What did Obama's UK's first trip and his curious entourage of 500 cost US ?)
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To: a fool in paradise

37 posted on 12/18/2009 10:16:19 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: NormsRevenge
Scientists Discover and Image Explosive Deep-Ocean Volcano

That's take a picture or video for those of us in Rio Linda.

Or are volcanos hiring press agents and taking manners courses?

38 posted on 12/18/2009 10:29:35 AM PST by BoneHead
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To: corkoman

This is a serious problem, and more of one than global warming. The most plausible remedy is ocean fertilization to increase CO2 uptake and sequestration. Yet the enviros oppose it.


39 posted on 12/18/2009 10:35:45 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: NormsRevenge; SolitaryMan; rdl6989; Darnright; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; livius; DollyCali; ..
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

40 posted on 12/18/2009 11:05:40 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn’t the melting glaciers and polar caps just serve to dilute the acidified ocean water by simply adding more water to the mixture?


41 posted on 12/18/2009 3:28:35 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: a fool in paradise

And in 2000, running for the big casino, he appeared on MTV and said that he had Sister Hazel on his MP3 player.


42 posted on 12/18/2009 3:31:26 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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