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NASA reveals first-ever photo of liquid on another world
Cnn.copm ^ | 12/18/2009 | Thom Patterson

Posted on 12/18/2009 3:11:00 PM PST by dragnet2

A photo from Cassini shows sunlight reflecting from a giant lake of methane on the northern half of Saturn's moon Titan.

(CNN) -- NASA scientists revealed Friday a first-of-its-kind image from space showing reflecting sunlight from a lake on Saturn's largest moon, Titan.

It's the first visual "smoking gun" evidence of liquid on the northern hemisphere of the moon, scientists said, and the first-ever photo from another world showing a "specular reflection" -- which is reflection from a liquid surface.

Jaumann said he was surprised when he first saw the photos transmitting from Cassini, orbiting Saturn about a billion miles from Earth.

"It was great because if you look at photos of planets, you mostly see nothing is happening. But in two hours we saw a glint of light getting brighter."

Titan's similarities to Earth have attracted NASA's attention for decades. It's the only body besides our own in the solar system that is believed to have liquid on its surface. Like Earth, Titan has an atmosphere which is mostly nitrogen.

Experts believe the presence of liquid on a planet or moon improves the chances that some kind of life could develop there.

The project is based out of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; krakenmare; liquidmethane; methane; nasa; saturn; solarsystem; titan
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1 posted on 12/18/2009 3:11:01 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2; KevinDavis

bump


2 posted on 12/18/2009 3:11:50 PM PST by GeronL
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To: dragnet2

almost the color of beer


3 posted on 12/18/2009 3:12:15 PM PST by steveo (2010 never again)
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To: dragnet2
Here's another angle...


4 posted on 12/18/2009 3:13:50 PM PST by skimbell
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To: dragnet2

That’s what happens when you ignore greenhouse gasses like methane. It creates lakes. People die. Oceans . . . well, you know the story.


5 posted on 12/18/2009 3:14:26 PM PST by StAntKnee (I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up from this dream theatre of the absurd.)
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To: dragnet2

Prove it’s not a bottle top reflection....


6 posted on 12/18/2009 3:18:57 PM PST by is_is (VPD of Sgt Dan, Former 2/5 MARINE - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: dragnet2

Maybe it’s Bourbon!


7 posted on 12/18/2009 3:19:43 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: steveo

Where’s the single malt ocean?


8 posted on 12/18/2009 3:20:36 PM PST by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: dragnet2

If you cock your head to the left, squint your eyes and hold your breath for 2 minutes, you should be able to see the image of Obama near the top of the photo.

Actually, I think that is a very amazing photo.


9 posted on 12/18/2009 3:20:49 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: skimbell

I know an old fashioned Billiard Ball when I see one...


10 posted on 12/18/2009 3:21:34 PM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: dragnet2

Man.... if someone lit a match up there it would blow the place up!


11 posted on 12/18/2009 3:22:07 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Noumenon

“Where’s the single malt ocean?:

The Big Rock Candy Mountain?


12 posted on 12/18/2009 3:26:19 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: KoRn

Couldn’t they focus the camera just a little better?


13 posted on 12/18/2009 3:27:53 PM PST by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: KoRn
"Man.... if someone lit a match up there it would blow the place up!"

Actually, you could detonate a nuclear weapon, nothing would happen. No oxygen.

14 posted on 12/18/2009 3:28:01 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Gator113

Almost appears as a ring with a gem stone at the top.


15 posted on 12/18/2009 3:28:01 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: jessduntno
Here's the planets whole Solar System...


16 posted on 12/18/2009 3:28:25 PM PST by skimbell
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To: KoRn

Yep - A big wet nasty cow fart. POW


17 posted on 12/18/2009 3:29:47 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Noumenon
You must be thinking of The Big Rock Candy Mountains:

in the big rock candy mountains, you never change your socks,
and the little streams of alcohol, come a tricklin' down the rocks.
The brakemen have to tip their hats, and the railroad bulls are blind,
There's a lake of stew and a whisky too,
you can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe,
in the big rock candy mountains.

18 posted on 12/18/2009 3:30:23 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: All

The glint appears to be coming from the southern edge of a lake called Kraken Mare — a massive body of methane that covers about 150,000 square miles (400,000 square kilometers). That’s larger than the Caspian Sea, which is the largest lake on Earth.


19 posted on 12/18/2009 3:30:45 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: KoRn

I know! There must be too many cows grazing the Titan pastures for meat-eating infidels! Quick, alert those in Copenhagen!


20 posted on 12/18/2009 3:31:11 PM PST by derekr44
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To: dragnet2

Just don’t send Space Cruiser E-89 to investigate. It doesn’t end well for Captain Paul Ross, Lt. Ted Mason and Lt. Mike Carter...


21 posted on 12/18/2009 3:32:00 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: OldDeckHand
" Actually, you could detonate a nuclear weapon, nothing would happen. No oxygen."

Oh yeah.... (duh) lol

22 posted on 12/18/2009 3:33:34 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: OldDeckHand
Actually, you could detonate a nuclear weapon, nothing would happen. No oxygen.

How do you know? You been there? :^)

23 posted on 12/18/2009 3:33:36 PM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: dragnet2

Methane boils at -148 degrees F, so it’s too cold for everyone except “Frosty”.


24 posted on 12/18/2009 3:37:34 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Night Hides Not
"How do you know? You been there?"

That's a good point. If the spectroscopy is flawed, that could just as easily be a giant lake of moose piss, rather than a sea of methane.

25 posted on 12/18/2009 3:39:25 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
Actually, you could detonate a nuclear weapon, nothing would happen. No oxygen.

I bet to differ... you'd get a rather massive explosion caused by the nuclear weapon, and if you detonate it near enough to the methane, you'll get a heck of a lot of methane converted to its gas state and at very high temperatures.

I wouldn't recommend standing too close.

Of course, the methane wouldn't do much more than vaporize... probably. ;-)

26 posted on 12/18/2009 3:42:05 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: KoRn

“Man.... if someone lit a match up there it would blow the place up!”

Not without oxygen!


27 posted on 12/18/2009 3:45:03 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: dragnet2

Lucy in the sky with diamonds.


28 posted on 12/18/2009 3:46:05 PM PST by AmusedBystander (Hey Obama, even Russia and China have embraced capitalism as the road to prosperity. Give it a try!)
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To: LRS

“Captain Paul Ross, Lt. Ted Mason and Lt. Mike Carter...”

Who? Never heard of them...

:0)


29 posted on 12/18/2009 3:47:08 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: is_is

30 posted on 12/18/2009 3:53:49 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Bigh4u2

Actually, as I had to wiki my memory to get the names (I did recall Jack Klugman and Ross Martin as playing 2 of the parts in Death Ship), I see where Richard Matheson had placed the story in 1997, so those 3 doomed astronauts have been dead for some time after investigating that shiny object they discovered. Dee-dee- dee-dee dee....


31 posted on 12/18/2009 3:56:14 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: skimbell

“Here’s another angle...”

As God is my witness.. that was funny! If fact, you’ve pissed off the Creator tonight... He’s now ROTFLHAO right about now, and not attending to making it snow on the Communists! Really great sense of humor you have there skimbell!


32 posted on 12/18/2009 3:58:12 PM PST by hot4plasma
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To: dragnet2

Cool. Now maybe there’s a beach I can go to that’s not so crowded.


33 posted on 12/18/2009 4:00:34 PM PST by mtg
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To: OldDeckHand
If the spectroscopy is flawed, that could just as easily be a giant lake of moose piss, rather than a sea of methane.

There you go, trying to trick me. If it was a giant lake of moose piss, then oxygen would have to be present, to accommodate all those moose.

One other question: if there was no oxygen on that asteroid, then how was Harry Stamper able to detonate that nuke?

34 posted on 12/18/2009 4:00:38 PM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: dragnet2

In a related article, Al Gore is now seeking to develop a scientific mission to Titan, so it can be blasted from our solar system.

Gore was quoted as saying, “We don’t need no stinking methane!”

The scientific mission might be wise though. If we send Al Gore to check it out, there could be positive outcomes. I say we give him a box of matches and send him on his way...


35 posted on 12/18/2009 4:01:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (People who voted for John McCain, voted for George Soros' business partner.)
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To: dragnet2

At least for the billions we give NASA, we get some pixels out of the Fu#$king deal! This is more than I can say for government!


36 posted on 12/18/2009 4:02:18 PM PST by hot4plasma
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To: The SISU kid; Empireoftheatom48; Rio; Iowan; hattend; reader25; july4thfreedomfoundation; ...


For other space news go to: http://www.spacetoday.net
For a list of Private Space Companies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_companies


37 posted on 12/18/2009 4:02:25 PM PST by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: Night Hides Not
"There you go, trying to trick me. If it was a giant lake of moose piss, then oxygen would have to be present, to accommodate all those moose."

Man, if I knew how Photoshop worked, I'd create a terrific picture of a moose in a space-suit. You'll just have to imagine it.

"One other question: if there was no oxygen on that asteroid, then how was Harry Stamper able to detonate that nuke?"

That is a valid point. With my extremely limited understanding of thermonuclear warheads, I believe there is still a conventional explosion that propels the plutonium matter together with such force and velocity, it triggers a chain-reaction. No explosion, no chain-reaction. Perhaps it's a pneumatic thermonuclear warhead?

38 posted on 12/18/2009 4:07:35 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: dragnet2

Indeed, it does.

I just amazes me that we can sit in the comfort our homes and look at this stuff. I will never get used to it.


39 posted on 12/18/2009 4:08:59 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: dragnet2


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

40 posted on 12/18/2009 4:09:31 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: dragnet2

let’s send Barack and Michele there for another honeymoon.

After all, it is a “moon”.


41 posted on 12/18/2009 4:17:43 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: KoRn

Nope, Too cold!


42 posted on 12/18/2009 4:22:50 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (Happy Holy Day!)
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To: dragnet2

“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.” —Psalm 19:1


43 posted on 12/18/2009 4:23:56 PM PST by onedoug
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


44 posted on 12/18/2009 4:29:42 PM PST by onedoug
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To: dragnet2

How did our dinosaurs get over there to make petrochemicals?


45 posted on 12/18/2009 4:36:53 PM PST by blackminorca
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To: LRS

Can you say...Flying Dutchman...?


46 posted on 12/18/2009 4:41:33 PM PST by Levante
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; ...
a giant lake of methane on the northern half of Saturn's moon Titan
Thanks dragnet2.
 
Catastrophism
 
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47 posted on 12/18/2009 5:21:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: dragnet2
"It was great because if you look at photos of planets, you mostly see nothing is happening. But in two hours we saw a glint of light getting brighter."

I'll tell ya, Pluto must be pissed - first it gets demoted from a full planet to just another "Kuiper Belt Object" or "plutino", and now some NASA folks are referring to Titan as a planet... It just adds insult to injury... Pluto just can't get no respect...

48 posted on 12/18/2009 5:22:28 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: blackminorca; dragnet2
Hmmm....three words come to mind: Abiogenic petroleum origin
49 posted on 12/18/2009 5:24:27 PM PST by Jed Eckert
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To: dragnet2

Liquid methane huh?....been there.....wasn’t pretty!...kind of embarassing actually..


50 posted on 12/18/2009 5:43:21 PM PST by freedombird (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness. -A. DeTocqueville)
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