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Happy Clinton Impeachment Day 2009! Impeachment is Forever
Saturday, December 19, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 12/18/2009 9:03:50 PM PST by kristinn

Top photo: Jim Robinson leads Free Republic's Clinton Impeachment Rally, aka March for Justice, Washington, D.C. October 31, 1998

Center: Washington Post front page, December 20, 1998.

Bottom: AP/World Wide Photo.

For those who are unaware of Free Republic's history making in its early years, please know that Jim Robinson and the Freepers played a key role in getting Bill Clinton impeached. The impeachhment rally was broadcast live on C-SPAN (all four hours!)

Founder of the D.C. Chapter of FreeRepublic.com, MrConfettiMan (who has since passed away) wrote his thoughts about the rally back then:

Saturday, October 31st, The March for Justice

I drove into Washington for the big event and ended up parking relatively close to the White House. As such, I decided to swing by the Lion’s Den to see if there were any early morning freepers there. I recognized Libloather, a participant from our October 3rd White House protest, who is prominently featured in the March for Justice banners found on FR, as I was approaching. We spent a few minutes chatting about old times and then I moved on to the mall, the site of our history-making event.

By the time I got there it was about 8:30AM and a small crowd of volunteers had gathered. By 9:00AM, we not only had more people than the anti-Starr rally last weekend, we had more flags than they had people. Let me say that again. It’s three hours away from the start of our rally and we already had more flags than they had people. There’s no denying it, we’re good. Real good.

As the morning wore on, one of the most exciting spectacles was all the people walking towards the event. Every time you took a look towards the Washington monument you’d see crowds of people with signs and banners walking toward the stage. It was great. They were like ants. Before the start of the event I’d run into just about every freeper who was at our October 3rd White House protest including lancer, Jack Aubrey, Marylander, Kathy, Aloyce, Siouxz, Chris P. and two guys from NJ (I’m sorry guys, your online moniker’s fail me). I also met Highlander with his impressive “Impeach One for the Gipper” signs. (When I left the post-rally party, I took his signs with me and promised to try and restore them for a subsequent visit to a White House protest.)

The highlight of the day were the speeches. They were amazing. I have to admit that I’m one of those people who is so filled with emotion that sometimes an inspiring rendition of the national anthem at a sporting event can bring me to tears. I lost count of how many times that happened during the March. Hearing the words from the speakers on stage, coupled with the cheers from the crowd, were just too much to handle on several occassions. I was filled with such a sense of joy and pride to be among all of you and to finally witness people taking a stand against the crisis we are facing. (You know, I’ve been telling my family for a couple of years now that I’m thinking about moving to a cave to get away from our dysfunctional society. It’s sort of a joke but I get no joy from being around the general public anymore. I feel as if I’m surrounded by those from the polls who support Clinton and it disgusts me. Not so yesterday.)

It’s hard to pick a favorite speaker but I was literally amazed by Rejoice. If you thought her speech at the March was good, I wish you could’ve heard the words she spoke at the post-rally party. She is truly a gifted person with a wonderful message. I was also impressed, as always, with Bob Barr and Ambassador Keyes. I think it’s an example of the worthiness of our cause (not to mention the hard work of CaL and the other organizers) that we were able to arrange such a fine lineup of speakers.

As the rally was breaking up, Tinman told me he and some other freepers were going up to the White House to say hello to Clinton freeper-style and asked me to join them. Now the protests we’ve held thus far at the White House were successful but low key. We simply held our signs and marched back and forth interacting with tourists on occasion. This time was anything but low key. BettyBoop led us through several different protest chats and we made a lot of noise. The crowd of tourists just stood around and watched us in awe. It was great. We shouted “Fire the Liar”, “Jail to the Chief” and many other slogans. It was another freeper moment for the archives.

At the post-party rally, I was able to put faces to names for LurkerNoMore, Normally a Lurker and Curmudgeon. While there, Submareener was logged into FR from his laptop and was reading us some of the latest posts interjecting his own playful commentary once in a while. It was a nice opportunity to sit back and talk as a group about our feelings on the event and what we thought we should do next. I left earlier than I wanted to at around 9:30AM but I was simply too tired to stay any longer. (It’s hard work being a burr in Clinton’s behind.) I left knowing the world is a slightly better place because of what we did and knowing that I had a lot of new friends, who thanks to the FR and the ‘net, I’d be able to talk to everyday.

A big hearty thank you goes out to everybody involved in organizing the March for Justice!

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Alamo-Girl archived some reports on media coverage of the rally:

Freeper report LarryLied 10/31/98 ".The local CBS affiliate in West Palm Beach FL just ran a story about ministers protesting Ken Starr in DC today.When I called and asked why they covered a protest with less than 100 in attendence and ignored they Freeper rally, I was told, "Clinton protests happen all the time. People protesting Starr is news!" The station was WPEC News 12 CBS.."

Washington Weekly 11/2/98 Robert Stowe England ".Seeing themselves as modern-day patriots responding to a moral crisis in the nation, thousands of protestors hailing from Honolulu to Boston descended on the nation's historic mall here Halloween day for an old-fashioned protest rally that repeatedly and vigorously called for President Clinton's impeachment, conviction and removal from office. The rally, held near the Washington Monument, was the successful culmination of a concerted effort by volunteers who had never met one another, and who organized the event in only three weeks. Its organizers are all members of the conservative Free Republic web-site, www.FreeRepublic.com. It was the largest anti- Clinton demonstration since protestors began to dog the President in his travels around the country after he went on national television in August and admitted he had lied to the American people when he had no sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. Media coverage was thin, with C-SPAN and CNN apparently among the few broadcast media present."The mainstream media tell us no one cares, but the truth is that the American people are sick are tired of people lying to them" says Hair. "They make people who care think they're rabid. We're not. We're people you live next door to, or people you work with, or people you go to church with," she said.."

Freeper Jack Aubrey 11/15/98 reports ".When I referred to my pals in the White House "swamp" as "whores," I know exactly whereof I speak because I was a whore myself until I got religion about five years ago. By that I mean I have behind me (and I do mean BEHIND me) a thirty-year career in "broadcast news" as .Over the years my various jobs took me to 22 countries in Asia (including four years in Vietnam, 71--75); 22 countries in Central and South America, plus Iraq (5 times), Israel, and Russia among other places, obviously almost aways working as a foreign correspondent, or in the United States on stories with a domestic foreign-affairs angle, like the Iran-contra mess. I know PRECISELY how the media (often, Harvard) harlots tilt, slant, distort, omit, lie, and basically behave like whores. I know many of these people personally, and I would and will say to their faces what I said at the White House today. Most, but, it is very important to note, NOT ALL, are whores and flacks for the White House. They do it on remote control. Nobody explictly says, "Write this, say that." Nope, to get up that slippery, greasy, cut-throat-loaded ladder of the broadcast media, you learn how to do it yourself. It doesn't take a lot of brains to figure out what the PARTY LINE is and to follow it slavishly.."

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The following is from the D.C. Chapter's freep report from Impeachment Day:

A while later the first article of impeachment passed the House ! Being that we had spread out along the avenue by that time, we sought each other out to cheer the good news. We then gathered at the Swamp to inform the WH press corps that "The Constitution lives !" and that it was "a great day to be an American !"

During the next hour or so the remaining three articles were voted on. Article three was the only other one to pass. We rejoiced that the President was being called to account for perjury before a Federal grand jury and for obstructing justice. Much to their appreciation, we took care to inform the police and press as the results were announced.

A special treat today was the presence of CNN's Wolf Blitzer. Our feelings of contempt for Mr. Blitzer have increased since the day he and CNN went along with Presidential spokesman Joe Lockhart's suggestion that CNN break away from live coverage of his briefing when the subject matter got embarrassing for the White House. Mr. Blitzer caught heavy flak from Freepers at irregular intervals throughout our time there. We freeped him with calls such as "Lies of omission are still lies !", "What did Joe Lockhart tell you to say today ?", and when ABC's Sam Donaldson arrived at the swamp, "Hey Sam ! Why don't you show Wolf how a real reporter does it !"

The coup de grace was supplied by DoctorRaoul who unfurled a three foot squar (sic) banner about Mr.Blitzer that was hilariously on target. I'll leave it to him to describe it further.

Further down the thread, Doctor Raoul reported on his banner (CORRECTED FOR TYPOS):

For those of you curious about what upset Wolfie:

A 4 foot by 4 foot hot pink banner said;

CNN CAMERAMAN Pan Down and Show Lockhart's Arm Up Wolf Blitzer's Butt Working His Jaw

He stood there mad as hell and didn't know whether to you know what or go blind.

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I first posted a version of the following on Clinton Impeachment Day 2003:

Congratulations! It was eleven years ago today the House of Representatives impeached President William Jefferson Clinton for perjury and obstruction of justice.

Those brave representatives survived an all-out war of political brinksmanship which included public threats of retaliation and private threats to bring down the government if Clinton was impeached.

James Carville threatened Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr with "kneecapping;" Alec Baldwin called for the murder of House Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde; George Stephanopoulos passed along the threat to employ the "Ellen Rometsch defense"--a public blackmailing of Congress; Hillary Clinton said on the Today Show that those plotting against her husband "would have alot to answer for" when this was done; Paula Jones was called "trailer trash" and worse for simply seeking justice and an apology; Linda Tripp had her reputation destroyed by a conspiracy of Clinton administration officials and media operatives. Even Monica Lewinsky feared for her life and kept the infamous blue dress stained with presidue for insurance.

Thank God that people like Linda Tripp stood tall and refused to back down in their determination to see that a president of the United States could not commit felonies in office with impunity.

And thank God for people like Jim Robinson, Matt Drudge, Bob Barr, Gary Aldrich, Alan Keyes, Larry Klayman, Lucianne Goldberg, Billy Dale and all the rest who spoke at, organized and attended Free Republic's nationally televised rally supporting Clinton's impeachment on October 31, 1998.

You done good! Impeachment is forever. You can be proud that in America's hour of need, you answered the call to preserve protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

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A refresher course on the Ellen Rometsch strategy from Richard Poe:

Poe: Well, in many cases, these threats were made quite openly. For example, on February 8, 1998, with pressure mounting to impeach Bill Clinton, George Stephanopoulos appeared on ABC’s This Week with Sam Donaldson and Cokie Roberts. Stephanopoulos had resigned as White House communications chief in 1996 and become an ABC news analyst. But he was still carrying the Clintons’ water, as his next words made clear.

Stephanopoulos announced that the Clinton White House was planning what he called an “Ellen Rometsch” strategy. He explained that Rometsch was an East German spy who had managed to become John F. Kennedy’s lover. According to Stephanopoulos, the Kennedy White House threatened to open up the FBI files and divulge embarrassing or incriminating information on anyone who attempted to blow the whistle on JFK’s affair with Rometsch. If pressed to the wall, the Clinton White House would do likewise, said Stephanopoulos.

Sam Donaldson asked, “Are you suggesting for a moment that what they’re beginning to say is that if you investigate this too much, we’ll put all your dirty linen right on the table? Every member of the Senate? Every member of the press corps?” To which Stephanopoulos replied, “Absolutely. The president said he would never resign, and I think some around him are willing to take everyone down with him.”

This was a clear threat, delivered openly, on national television. Through Stephanopoulos, the Clintons were warning Congress and the media to back off. The threat worked. David P. Schippers, who was Chief Investigative Counsel for the Clinton impeachment, reveals in his book Sell-Out that Republican leaders, from the get-go, had no intention of holding a proper impeachment trial or of convicting Bill Clinton. It was all a charade.

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I'll close with the full page color ad Freepers designed and placed in The Washington Times on February 11, 1999, the day before the Senate voted to let Clinton off the hook:

Courtesy of Varmint Al


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1 posted on 12/18/2009 9:03:51 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Jim Robinson; Richard Poe; Alamo-Girl; Varmint Al; Bob J; A Navy Vet; Angelwood; ...

Happy Clinton Impeachment Day!


2 posted on 12/18/2009 9:06:34 PM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

As I recall it was on a saturday and I believe I was watching a football game on tv when it happened.


3 posted on 12/18/2009 9:06:39 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (Dagmar is back. Yeah!!!!!!)
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To: kristinn
 Moonshine Willie
4 posted on 12/18/2009 9:15:48 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

We were probably watching the same game.


5 posted on 12/18/2009 9:17:35 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: kristinn
At the time I thought it was great. But after 10 years of disaster I have completely changed my mind, Republicans should have condemned him and left him to the justice department to go after after he was out of office

Sadly, things under Clinton's 8 years with the early R congresses were darn nice.

6 posted on 12/18/2009 9:21:42 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

scratch that, it was 1998 and I was still boycotting the NFL.


7 posted on 12/18/2009 9:23:00 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: kristinn
The problem still hasn't ever been fixed. Trent Lott simply refused to hand the whitehouse over to Algor with a year to go on SlicKKK's second term which would have let Algor run as an incumbant in 00.

What is needed, obviously and painfully, is a voters' bill of rights and the first item of such a bill HAS TO BE runoff elections or instant runoff elections for all public offices.

Nobody should ever fear to vote his first choice, at least on a first ballot, and nobody should ever hold any public office with less than 50% of the vote.

There should also be a None-Of-Above choice on all ballots for public office and if that choice ever wins, then the other candidates should be barred for life from holding any public office and the parties sponsoring them should be barred for at least ten years from sponsoring candidates for that particular office. The penalty for running dead wood for public offices should be severe.

Another item on such a voters' bill of rights should be something which would eliminate voting fraud for all time and if that means getting rid of the secret ballot or at least limiting it somehow or other, so be it, we're paying too high a price for it. Somehow or other it has to be possible to check up on votes when there are questions or evidence of fraud.

One last item on such a list would be a provision that when a president is impeached and removed, his VP goes out the door with him and the office is either vacant until the next election or an emergency election is held to fill the office for the remainder of the current term. Granted removing a president should be difficult but it should not be impossible and if we couldn't remove Slick, we'd not have been able to remove Hitler or Nero either.

What happened in 98/99 was that Trent Lott simply refused to hand the presidency over to Algor with a year to go on Slick's second term, for obvious reasons. The situation should not be possible.

8 posted on 12/18/2009 9:25:51 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: kristinn

Ahhhh...the good ole days!

Wish we could impeach the current freak!


9 posted on 12/18/2009 9:28:17 PM PST by LUV W (Obama, the job-killer, has presided over the loss of 4.6 million jobs...and counting! RL)
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To: kristinn
I still have my copy: Proud to have been a contributor
10 posted on 12/18/2009 9:32:47 PM PST by notaliberal (Palin supporter)
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To: sickoflibs

Well, if you consider selling out our national security to the ChiComs, a truly illegal war in Kosovo over truly made up reasons, a totally corrupt Justice Department, cozying up to terrorists, blackmailing Congress and the media, siccing the IRS on political enemies, and on and on “darn nice” your Bush hatred has truly made you ‘sick’.


11 posted on 12/18/2009 9:34:37 PM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: wendy1946
Trent Lott and the Republican Senators were terrified of being destroyed by Clinton's operatives they way they destroyed House Republicans like Bob Livingston.

Al Gore should have been impeached for Chinagate as Clinton should have been too in addition to the perjury and obstruction of justice.

12 posted on 12/18/2009 9:39:14 PM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

This was the day that the Democrats proved party was stronger than ethics. They could have uninimously impeached him, then not voted to remove.

Instead, they would not hold Clinton accountable, nor would they address the ethics. In the end, Clinton accepted the punishment, after he claimed to be not guilty.

With that, our nation took another step into the sewer.


13 posted on 12/18/2009 9:40:21 PM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: notaliberal

I’ve got some copies tucked away, also.


14 posted on 12/18/2009 9:40:37 PM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: Loud Mime

The ‘Rats put party before country. I remember Chuck Schumer saying, “So what!” when called to hold Clinton accountable for his crimes.


15 posted on 12/18/2009 9:43:48 PM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

...and the republic’s slide into hell hasn’t abated. The republican party was not the answer to that situation, and is even further removed from the present situation. We’re in deep um, trouble, Bucko.


16 posted on 12/18/2009 9:45:55 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: kristinn

Impeachment should’ve been over all of that and not about Monica.


17 posted on 12/18/2009 9:45:56 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: kristinn; All

Great post, kristinn. Thanks to those who were there and YOU for all of your work/dedication/activism. FR’s finest.


18 posted on 12/18/2009 9:46:13 PM PST by PGalt
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To: darkangel82

They and the media made it all about Monica 24/7, and it worked.


19 posted on 12/18/2009 9:46:50 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: kristinn

I was at the MFJ with Gracie, Humidston, BlackBeret, and Rejoice. It was a fabulous time.

I also have the Houston Chronicle annoucing impeachment.


20 posted on 12/18/2009 9:51:16 PM PST by katykelly
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To: kristinn
There should never have been an impeachment i.e. it should never have gotten that far. As Edith Efron noted Slick needed to have been packed off to St. Elizabeth's hospital for the criminally insane in 94.

How much involvement did Algor have in Chinagate??

21 posted on 12/18/2009 9:54:10 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: kristinn

I was there for it all, on my WebTV, lol! Yay FreeRepublic!


22 posted on 12/18/2009 10:03:16 PM PST by Jodi (FUBO)
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To: sickoflibs

Then Bill would be running the UN and Hillary would be President. Impeached is better and it lets History know how bad he was.


23 posted on 12/18/2009 11:05:29 PM PST by donna (AZ Maricopa County 2008: Illegal aliens down 30%. Total felonies down 18.5% THC Sheriff Arpaio!)
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To: kristinn

God Bless the late Henry Hyde.


24 posted on 12/18/2009 11:16:38 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: kristinn

Impeachment and herpes is forever...he has one...he may have the other.


25 posted on 12/18/2009 11:48:02 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: kristinn; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...
Thanks for the reminder thread, kristinn!

FReepers: Check it out... kristinn has posted LOTS of great info and pics at the top of this thread.

26 posted on 12/18/2009 11:53:13 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: kristinn; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...
Thanks for the reminder thread, kristinn!

FReepers: Check it out... kristinn has posted LOTS of great info and pics at the top of this thread.

27 posted on 12/18/2009 11:54:25 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: kristinn

Has the mainstream media ever referred to Clinton as the ‘disgraced’ or ‘impeached’ former President?

I know they refer to Palin as the ‘failed’ Vice Presidential candidate. All the time.

I call him the treasonous, impeached, bent-crank violent-rapist. It’s a little longer to type than Bill Clinton but it enrages the moonbats.


28 posted on 12/19/2009 12:06:40 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: kristinn

Great post!

My in-laws were up from Texas and we took our families to Radio City Music Hall in NYC. It was a chilly but sunny day and we got the news that Clinton had been impeached from one of those scrolling news tickers that wraps around the corner of an office building.

The news made the day even better!


29 posted on 12/19/2009 12:12:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Electric Graffiti
I call him the treasonous, impeached, bent-crank violent-rapist

Do you mind if I call Clinton "the treasonous, impeached, bent-crank violent-rapist, sink masturbator"?

30 posted on 12/19/2009 12:14:21 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

LMAO.....not at all ;)


31 posted on 12/19/2009 12:18:24 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: kristinn

What’s happy about it? He remained in office and he’s collecting his pension and all the goodies that go with it and as far as I can tell he is still involved in government. It would be great if all of this was yanked from him and he actually went to jail as well as his wife.

He should have been jailed before he ever became POTUS for rape.


32 posted on 12/19/2009 12:22:42 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: kristinn

Great job with your presentation, kristinn. I remember watching the FreeRepublic rally out here in former Condit Country, and spent many hours glued to news presented on FR.


33 posted on 12/19/2009 12:51:06 AM PST by Diver Dave (Merry CHRISTmas)
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To: kristinn

Thanks to you, and all who supported bringing the man I dubbed “Little Big Fraud” to justice.

I was one of the unknown foot soldiers back then- not even on the web.

Congressman Bob Barr wrote to me, and asked if I would back him up if he started “an inquiry in to drafting letters of impeachment,” and my reply was along the lines of

“all the way.”


34 posted on 12/19/2009 1:51:54 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: kristinn

Excellent article! A day I well remember! Now if only we can do the same thing to President Zero and get him removed from office...And tried for treason...And sent to the USP Altanta for life.

Article reprinted on my blog:

http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2009/12/happy-clinton-impeachment-day.html


35 posted on 12/19/2009 4:17:13 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: kristinn

Great post...thanks for the memories..BTW...anyone have any pics..especially of Mr. CigarMan


36 posted on 12/19/2009 4:35:25 AM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: Electric Graffiti
I refer to him as a male slut. It drives leftists nuts - almost as much as telling them that character does matter.
37 posted on 12/19/2009 4:46:07 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: kristinn

If only the Senate had removed him from office. Oh well - thanks for the memory!


38 posted on 12/19/2009 4:47:34 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: onyx; CondoleezzaProtege; Nachum; muawiyah; blam; SunkenCiv

*ping*


39 posted on 12/19/2009 5:12:40 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: kristinn

To me there was no better illustration that the Founders of the Constitution made a near-perfect document. Had it not been changed, and the Senators were elected by their respective House members, instead of the popoulace, he probably would have been convicted.


40 posted on 12/19/2009 5:14:09 AM PST by kempster
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To: kristinn

Thank you for posting this.

MrConfettiMan’s sign was: FIRE THE LIAR

Some things never change, even though he is no longer with us.

His first post, which started the DC Chapter, was entitled, “I was there, where were you?” He described being there, at the White House with one other protester. He told us the rules of protesting without a permit and invited us all down...if we were 24 or less, we were ok.

After action reports and comments were so inspiring that Jim Robinson said he’d be there the end of October. We got a permit for that one - the March for Justice.


41 posted on 12/19/2009 5:23:06 AM PST by credo 2
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To: anniegetyourgun; wendy1946

***If only the Senate had removed him from office.***

As Wendy stated: Trent Lott refused to hand over the Executive to Al Gore....

That works for me;)


42 posted on 12/19/2009 5:32:11 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: anniegetyourgun; Electric Graffiti

I remember going to a buddy’s wedding and asking his attorney father if perjury really was a crime. He got PISSED. So much for my social skills.


43 posted on 12/19/2009 5:53:29 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: notaliberal
"I still have my copy: Proud to have been a contributor"

Ditto!!

44 posted on 12/19/2009 5:56:03 AM PST by ~Vor~ (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.)
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To: donna

Hill would be President if Bill wasnt impeached? What scenario is that?


45 posted on 12/19/2009 6:48:04 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: kristinn; rabscuttle385

He wasnt impeached for any of that stuff but for statements in court on Monica. Then the Senate failed to convict him anyway.

Pretty tame compared to leaving 8 years of office with two ongoing wars, depression, massive debts, massive government with more and more growing power and lastly giving Democrats more power than before in our lifetimes . Clinton DID not do that.

The ‘Republican aka conservative’ experiment was such a disaster that Americans look back at BC (who had an opposing congress) and say “Those were good days” and “Why was he impeached?”


46 posted on 12/19/2009 7:06:41 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: kristinn

They’re talking about this on CSPAN-3 right now.


47 posted on 12/19/2009 7:26:03 AM PST by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market ..." --George "Hoover" Bush)
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To: sickoflibs

Bill would have campaigned for Hillary, still the beloved ex-President with reputation intact. Hillary would have won the Presidency. Bill would rule the world from the UN.

Even in disgrace Bill had good ratings:

End-of Presidency Job Approval Ratings
ABC News Data
Bill Clinton (2001) 65%
Ronald Reagan (1989) 64
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicalcommentary/a/historical_prez.htm


48 posted on 12/19/2009 7:39:35 AM PST by donna (AZ Maricopa County 2008: Illegal aliens down 30%. Total felonies down 18.5% THC Sheriff Arpaio!)
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To: kristinn

I remember. ‘Pod


49 posted on 12/19/2009 7:44:29 AM PST by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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50 posted on 12/19/2009 7:46:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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