Posted on 12/19/2009 12:07:21 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
3 more years of this public speaker? We must wreck the democratic party in 2010. However, ACORN, et al cheats and I’m afraid the dems will cheat their way bk in. We don’t have socialism. We have a dictatorship along the lines of Hugo Chavez. I smell the sulphur now myself - it’s in the White House.
He is not supposed to be ratified by a 2/3 vote in the Senate before it is binding, but,he has done so many other things that he was not supposed to do, what is one more.
Sure, but if the senate has given the sitting president or the EPA some sort of additional authority that the courts haven’t got the guts (or sanity) to strike down, then who knows. For my part, I have almost no faith in 50% of SCOTUS and absolutely none in the Obama administration. You don’t repeal vital portions of the constitution in one blow. You chip away at it until the law of the land is usurped by “legal precedents”.
Oh, and besides, CO2 isn’t a “pollutant” so if the US WERE the biggest emitter of CO2, that would still have nothing to do with whether or not they were the biggest “polluters”.
It has been a long time since congress ratified a treaty. The process is so cumbersome it has been bypassed for decades.
The North American Free Trade Agreement was not ratified by congress, for one. Here it is known as a trade agreement, but in Mexico, one of the two other countries involved, it is known as the Tratado de Libre Comercio, the Free Trade Treaty.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Yes, I see what you mean.
Still, it seems to me that if this agreement (assuming one is arrived at) is deemed sufficiently cumbersome by congress - which has not happened in the case of NAFTA - it can be repudiated unilaterally without consequence.
I could be wrong, and certainly it would be preferable to reach NO agreement; my point, however, is that such an agreement wouldn’t be written in stone if, for example, down the road, congress seeks to repudiate it. THAT, IMHO, is highly germane to the various changes in and alterations to our national life which the current president is seeking to implement. That is to say, when/if the nation comes to its senses, can we get out of all this Obama BS?
See post 86. I may be living in a Fool’s Paradise; however, I choose to believe that anything done by the current president can be undone if/when the nation comes to its senses.
Not legally he can’t. It’s completely unenforceable... Not that the Constitution means anything to Obama or his groupies...
Agree: It may take a civil war, but what has been done by President Zero can be corrected.
BTW, Happy Clinton Impeachment Day.
Perhaps in few years we’ll have a Happy Obama Impeachment Day as well.
This is the same congress that just raised the debt limit to insane levels and has yet to liquidate a single federal bureaucracy since the 1994 GOP blowout apart from the Bureau of Mines, a completely out-of-date depression-era program. How many federal powers have “devolved” to the states over the past 30 years? How many?
If he calls it an agreement and besides since when has anyone stopped him from doing whatever in the hell he wanted?
He can’t do it without Senate approval as stated in the Constitution.
yes he does and he’ll get a 2/3 or unanimous vote on it too.
There is no more Constitution!
The only way people will get their Constitution back is to bring it back from the DEAD....by breathing life into it...by following the founders after blood was spilled...that means somebody has to die.
AFTER blood was spilled!! Friends...we have way...way too many lawyers in politics..they need to be thinned out. Lawyers need to be running from a government job..not to it.
We don’t need ‘em cause they don’t need us...so now they need to give up their wealth to the people that own guns. Those mansions they are living in and all that land they have has to be taken from them and given to the people that don’t have none.
The ONLY PEOPLE that possessed the US Constitution...were the people themselves.But...they were too damn lazy to get off the couch and sweep the floor. The lawyers hated it.They say the voting public are fools..know what? We are!
The people of the USA are DEAD...the lawyers killed you,because they are YOUR HEROES.. they ARE the government ya know? They are your GODS. And you ain’t nobody. AND the people believe THIS!!
May God have mercy on our souls for what we have refused to do.
You’re entirely correct, of course, but... Oh, well - one tries to “keep a stiff upper lip” and hope for the best.
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Any legislation or treaty that is repugnant to the US Constitution is null and void at its inception. However, bureaucrats will pretend otherwise, even enforcing such at gunpoint, until the people take back their government.
I think this above is incorrect. Article Six of the Constitution says this regarding treaties:
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Treaties are the supreme law of the land, and all judges are bound by them even if they contradict the Constitution. They actually trump that document. The Senate is our sole protector in these situations, and how much confidence does that give you at this point?
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