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The difference between liberals and conservatives (Thomas Sowell & Sarah vs. Obama & Co.)
The Lake Country Reporter ^ | December 19, 2009 | Amy L. Geiger-Hemmer

Posted on 12/19/2009 5:48:08 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 12/19/2009 5:48:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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An always contemporary explanation of American politics in 2009 English. How strange will this sound to the readers of, say, 2050? That is, if they can read. I don’t think the govt will read THIS to them.


2 posted on 12/19/2009 6:06:02 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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3 posted on 12/19/2009 6:09:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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While they style themselves as defenders of the little people, i.e. poor and average Americans, libs have no faith in the ability of these people to fend for themselves whatsover. In short, they think average Americans are too stupid to care for themselves. They need the huge, overreaching hand of Big Government that is Big Lib Government to make it from day to day. To me, that sums up the Democrat Party.
4 posted on 12/19/2009 6:11:54 AM PST by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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Put simply, libtards believe “Man is basically good.” (Paraphrasing) Jesus said, “All the evil in the world comes from the heart of man.” Who do you believe?


5 posted on 12/19/2009 6:13:15 AM PST by wastoute
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Furthermore, the traditional notion that liberals are more optimistic about human nature than conservatives is pure bunk and needs to be overturned. You can tell liberals aren’t optimistic by the fact that they basically reject liberty. They want the central authorities to manage people’s lives, not the people themselves. They don’t trust people to make their own decisions. Does that show optimism? Nope.


6 posted on 12/19/2009 6:14:17 AM PST by Yardstick
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Put simply, libtards believe “Man is basically good.”

Actually liberals think man is fallen and doomed. The only hope they see is in putting massive power in the hands of the state to coerce people into behaving. Liberals believe big liberal-run government is good, not Man.

7 posted on 12/19/2009 6:20:34 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“There are evil people out there.”
I believe, without a doubt, that liberals are evil. I believe that our society will go down the drain unless we obtain a divorce from liberals and liberalism.

I believe that we are doomed to penury and slavery if we do not evict the liberal mindset from our country.

I know that liberals will not go away on their own and leave us alone. They insist on intruding into every aspect of our lives, telling us what to do and how to do it.

There are two choices we have. Submit or resist. There will be no live and let live with these people.


8 posted on 12/19/2009 6:22:57 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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In my opinion this is the true split in today’s political arena.
The democrats would have us believe that the struggle is between the haves and the have not’s.
I believe you have highlighted the true struggle between the believers of man are inherently good or that man is inherently flawed.
As a Christian myself, I believe the latter.
In the minimal education I have had regarding apologetics the one thing I find most useful is; in order to sway or to enlighten someone trapped in false belief, use must use their own book, text or list of principals to educate them to the truth.
It is very difficult to use your set of values, morals and precepts as they are generally to “foreign’ to the unbeliever. This in my opinion is why Jesus used parables to enlighten the people of his day.
Some good examples of this today are seen in “Affirmative Action Bake Sales” that were held on campuses in recent years where baked goods were priced for sale using the same formula used for admittance in that particular college. Although this infuriated the power people, I believe it had a lasting effect of educating students and faculty to the hypocrisy of Affirmative Action.
We need more of this reasoned thinking in our effort to take back (political) America from the left.
I think we need to refrain wherever possible from looking at the left as the enemy and to think of them as lost brothers and sisters.
Let’s “re-educate” them by using their own hypocritical policies and thinking and as Jesus did when He asked “Come follow….” We need to keep walking toward the future.

Merry Chrismas


9 posted on 12/19/2009 6:33:33 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (Count the cost, freedom is not free.)
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That's a Consensus if I ever saw One,

We are Doomed,
We Had a Good Run.
Enjoy What You Have ,Revel in Your Accomplishments,
But Know This ,From Here on It is a Fight of Biblical Proportions.

10 posted on 12/19/2009 7:04:31 AM PST by bravotu (Have a Nice Day !)
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Nice Article. Yet, I do not think that the actual demographics of the Dem party - particularly the group in Washington DC - is fully understood.

The Dem party has quite a few liberals, but it also has quite a few leftists. What is the difference? Why the distinction? From a distance they look and act nearly the same. In brief, liberals subscribe to the flawed world view as described in the article. Leftists traded their world view for power attainment. Leftists either discovered that their world view is shared by a perpetual minority or is simply untenable or whatever. They sold their Liberal souls for the power that Liberals can bring to them - these are usually politicians and activists. They walk and talk like liberals but in the end they heard the whisper “ye can be god-like” and seek power for power's sake.

These leftist rely on the tactics of their political forefathers, the communists and the fascists, to move their agenda - propaganda, coordinated demonizing, etc.

I believe the leftists are largely in charge of the Dem party and not the liberals!

11 posted on 12/19/2009 7:10:04 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (I thought I was a genius - I am just a smart-aleck)
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To: John 3_19-21
I think we need to refrain wherever possible from looking at the left as the enemy and to think of them as lost brothers and sisters.

For democrats - yes. For liberals - sometimes yes, sometimes no. For leftists - no.

12 posted on 12/19/2009 7:15:45 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (I thought I was a genius - I am just a smart-aleck)
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Many people are evil or lazy or self-centered, and could care less about their fellow man. Many people refuse to abide by the rules of society.

They are called DemonRATS.

13 posted on 12/19/2009 8:25:55 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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My Christmas wish is that all liberals, leftists, statists, bureaucrats, academics, celebrities, union leaders be rounded up and dropped on a remote island and forgotten.

After 20 years, anthropologists can visit and see what kind of utopia they have created for themselves.


14 posted on 12/19/2009 8:29:49 AM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: John 3_19-21

This in my opinion is why Jesus used parables to enlighten the people of his day.....I think we need to refrain wherever possible from looking at the left as the enemy and to think of them as lost brothers and sisters.
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Very interesting post! I just read your post to my young adult daughter.

I pray for this nation every day....Actually, I pray **frequently** throughout the day. Hopefully through God’s intervention we can save ourselves from tyranny.

By the way.... A Christian’s **most** important mission field is own children. A Christian’s second most important field is the children of his own congregation. So?...Why do we allow our children to go to Marxist dominated government schools where they are taught to adopt a godless worldview, and enticed daily to join the camp of the lost souls?

Marxism is our nation’s most serious threat. Schools are the Marxists’ most powerful weapon.


15 posted on 12/19/2009 9:58:34 AM PST by wintertime
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Speaking for myself I’ve always felt that conservatives are adults while liberals are children. Stunted adolescents really . Putting liberals in charge of anything is akin to allowing the kids to be in charge of your beautiful(and hard-worked for) home while you, the adults(the parents) go away for the week-end. I think we know what happens next.


16 posted on 12/19/2009 10:27:06 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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Many people are evil or lazy or self-centered, and could care less about their fellow man. Many people refuse to abide by the rules of society.

"They are called DemonRATS."

Sorry, no. Too simplistic. Political philosophy cuts across the subset of those who are curmudgeons.

"All people are not benevolent, desiring to help others, and kind-hearted." (From the article.)

Nor should they be or should we expect them to be. If charity were universal, an act of kindness would be nothing exceptional.

They say it takes all kinds; truth is, we simply have all kinds, and we will have to struggle along with the crew we've got at least until we get to the next port.

Democrats are not monolithic in temperament, nor are Republicans or Conservatives. We all have our share of people who want to be left alone. Generally, we have a different view of what it would take to accomplish that.

17 posted on 12/19/2009 10:46:52 AM PST by NicknamedBob (It seems to me that a wise PALINa woman would, more often than not, reach a better conclusion.)
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Interesting piece, 2ndDivisionVet. Thanks for posting!

*PING*
Thomas Sowell


18 posted on 12/19/2009 11:07:17 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: wintertime

Thank you.
I agree the Public School System has become the main recruiting arm of the socialists’ movement.
My 16 year old attends K-12, virtual school at home. Like you I believe in first things first.
If I was to disagree with you it would be with your last point. The most serious danger facing this country is apathy.
Socialism can only succeed where people refuse to do anything about it.


19 posted on 12/19/2009 12:02:39 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Count the cost, freedom is not free.)
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didnt have time to read the whole thing, but imho the basic premise is flawed...

some liberals are naive, but most are purely evil and use that hopeychangy thing to amass power, simplistic in an evil sort of way...

kill the weak and embolden the murderers around the world to wield the axe of compliance to their tyranical ambitions...period...

20 posted on 12/19/2009 12:11:21 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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